I don't see any 4 ref offers being accepted, any proof of them actually going for this?

Seen a three key offer on it, iirc it was turned down. 7.5 ref seems much more fair than 4 ref.

Besides, this thing can't possibly have a price yet, it's untradable and ungiftable.

Disagree, it's too early to set the initial price so low before it become tradable.

this isn't tradable yet, and new, desirable G items rarely go below 2 keys when they first hit the market, often more.

Further, since outpost doesn't make them searchable until they're tradable, that often deflates the price artificially!

I might put in a vote for 5 ref, but until theyre tradable they really should be left alone

I don't think so. Hypothesis: This may be an attempt to lower the price for a yet highly desired item to buy it cheap when it becomes tradeable. Suggestion: Please wait until it becomes tradeable then watch the market and start a new price suggestion. Until that all is speculation.

P.S. Are most of the owners of CS:GO (and so the AWPer) even into TF2 Trading? I have a few of friends that bought the game without even caring about the items.

Many ****ers buy games only for TF2 items, we all know that. I bought CS COMPLETE is to redeem myself from playing convenient version of CS 1.6 during earlier years. CSGO may not be as classic as CS original, but I can play CS 1.6 and CSS anyways.

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couldn't find anyone accepting 4 ref, this is just being upvoted so much without people knowing what its worth.

Pagan, you are into TF2 and Trading so you're quite aware of the value of this bonus items. I once bought a game myself just for the TF2 bonus items it came with. But many other gamers, including some CS players don't care about TF2 or its items.

Definitely. Genuine originals go for just under 4 keys, and there are only 11,5k of them. The quantity of this one is doubled, and it's just a reskin, contrary to where the original actually change the gameplay slightly.

EDIT: The sharp dresser is the only promo in the same situation; just a reskin. The quantity is at ≈5k, and it's priced at 4-5 keys. To put this one at anything close to that is insane.

People shouldn't even be allowed to set prices for items that are untradeable and ungiftable until this condition is removed.

Second that, Banana nation. Our fellow admin Brad Pitt might consider this as a feature request. :)

I don't think, that anyone who own this rifle will accept 4 ref price. Most of people here are voting for the lowest price, because they don't have one. I think the price should be higher.

It's not even giftable

27,650 exist but many of them belong to CS players who hate/don't play TF2.

Don't mess with a price when it hasn't even been released.

A lot of the ones you see won't ever make it into the TF2 trading world.

It's not normally tradeable, so it shouldn't have a price at all unless we see some good proof of them being sold. THIS SITE IS NOT ABOUT SPECULATION, IT'S ABOUT HOW MUCH IT ACTUALLY SELLS FOR.

Speculating takes out ANY credibility this site has as a tool.