Unfortunately this got autoclosed because an older price suggestion was accepted. At that time it had only been open for a few hours, but had almost 3 times as many upvotes as downvotes, so I am resubmitting it, so that people have a chance to vote.

The most common selling price is 1.33+, and I've seen very few above 1.66, or below 1.33

BTW, I own about 3 of these, but I'm not selling them, because I expect the price to be

higher in future

Evidence Links

All of this evidence links to trades where the offer is actually accepted. These are not buy out prices, but real trades.

Traders Buying Black Box

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5413262 (1.33 ref offer)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5795232 (1.33 ref offer)

Traders Selling Black Box

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4644163 (0.66 ref)

http://redd.it/12d5hm (0.66 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5237498 (1 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5026547 (1 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5795048 (1.33 ref) - there are many trades at 1.33, they're easy to find

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=8526371 (1.33 ref)

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=8517297 (1.33 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5293028 (1.33 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5798024 (1.33 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5643439 (1.55 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5793856 (1.55 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5750382 (1.66 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5389386 (1.66 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5529800 (1.66 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5496817 (2.22 ref offered, but it is not in his bp)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5745094 (1 key! and the history shows that he really did buy it: http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/1220177779 )

@Legacyfire no, I checked this with one of the backpack.tf admins. If one price suggestion is accepted then any others close automatically, even if it's only just been added, like this one.

Since this had already received many more upvotes than downvotes, I'm going to leave it open for at least a day or two this time, and see how it is received. Otherwise, people's votes are ignored, and the time I spent finding evidence is wasted...

The higher prices may be influenced by this site (your 1st link).

@Pomf | Woifi - well, if that's true then the prices starting from now are also going to be influenced by this site... so nobody will sell for higher than 1.33. So what should we do about that?

The admin who have accepted the other suggestion surely have seen your suggestion and decided which of the two he takes. (In other words, re-opening is useless now.)

And, with no disrespect to the admins, user votes should decide prices as much as possible, that's the whole point of this site. People obviously like this price suggestion, because it was receiving upvotes twice as fast as the other one. So let's just let people vote and decide... it doesn't do any harm to give them the choice

And BTW, I checked with the admin who accepted the other suggestion, and he had no objection to me submitting another one now

@Legacyfire That's correct, you can see only the votes after it's closed. It had 24 upvotes and 8 downvotes at that time

Here's some more evidence. As before, I only post links to real trades and offers, not to buyout prices, etc

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5392252 (1.22 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5012251 (sold for 1.33)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5449710 (sold for 1.33)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5467073 (buyer offers 1.44 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5825721 (sold for 1.44 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4356773 (buyer offers 1.6)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5771940 (sold for 1.66 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5187799 (sold for 1.66 - user id: Fraac)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5623296 (sold for 2 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5459848 (sold for 2.44 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5212695 (buyer offers 1 key... :o )

@cleverpun I wasn't really sure about the range. Do you think 1.33-1.66 is better?

I'm very doubtful about the number of sales happening below 1.33 ref -- I could hardly find any from the last month. But anyway I figured that some people have upvoted a price suggestion of 1-1.33, so I should respect their opinion a bit, even if I feel that the top end of that range is too low.

Many more of your links are within my range I suggested than the 1.33 to 1.66 upper range, a few do get sold higher than 1.33, just like a few get sold lower, but the majority get sold or are trying to be sold between 1-1.33.

@Shake and Bake

Wait.. what..? This is completely untrue, what are you even looking at here? I see 15 links above 1.33, and only 5 below 1.33...

@Shake and Bake - You seem to be imagining some kind of weird drama here. I simply had a price suggestion open that was automatically closed after a few hours, and I wanted to give people enough time to consider it, as I had already gathered all the evidence. That's all. I checked with the admin involved, and he didn't deliberately close it, so he was happy for me to resubmit it.

I don't bear you any ill will, but why are you posting here? This isn't some kind of emo discussion forum. Do you have some actual evidence about this price suggestion that you want to contribute?