Suggestion: Genuine Flying Guillotine at 1 key

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Genuine Flying Guillotine

Submitted Sat, 03 Nov 12 01:47:23 +0000 by ★ sono

65.31%

2–2.33 ref

1 key

~35.33 ref

32 votes up

17 votes down

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This suggestion was accepted Sun, 04 Nov 12 01:42:36 +0000 by Puddilicious.

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Yes, I do have one in my backpack, but I have no intent in selling it, not trying to make a 0.33 profit here. :p

Actually, in my little adventure trying to find one being sold for 2 refined I find out the spreadsheet price isn't accurate. Some people are still trying to sell the promo set, but those who are selling individual items, are charging 1 key for it.

Here, some trades selling it for 1 key:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5850851

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5881196

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5037306

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5826087

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5759826

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5794170

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5352921

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5606712

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4987299

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5862445

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5000027

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5808754

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5614193

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4590037

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5598606

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5535846

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5549369

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5634953

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5049844

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5049659

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5541661

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5490615

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5381629

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5134540

http://bazaar.tf/trade/52230

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=8458643

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=8534819

The usual problem is, with everyone selling at 1 key, nobody is selling at 1 key. Post a WTB trade for 2-2.33 ref and I'm sure you'll find a seller.

You cannot just look at the seller's asking price, you have to look at the buyer's bids as well.

@xen:

If you check the links I provided, you'll see that they actually are being sold for 1 key... :p

@pd' Esgalhador: Looking closer, I expected to see a lot of them unsold. About half your links show as sold, although we can't really be sure what they sold at. I still think they're all priced at 1 key because the spreadsheet says so, and if you posted a WTB for 2 ref you'd get one:

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4503725[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5555190[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5655166[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5593184[/url]

etc.

I also expected to see a hell of a lot more of them for sale on Outpost as well, so I could very well be wrong about this.

@pd' Esgalhador - B/O prices are always going to tend to be slightly above the market price - that's the nature of trading. So, by themselves, a bunch of 1 key b/o prices actually hurts this suggestion more than it helps it.

In the list of links you've provided, you should look through the comments and find a few cases where a buyer actually offers 1 key. Otherwise this evidence isn't very strong.

I'd look for them myself, but I've been staring at TF2OP for four hours and I need a break :/

In principle, it seems possible that this could be rising in price a bit, as people who want them buy them up, but you need evidence.

@Potato: As Xen said, about half of the links I posted show sold Guillotines which B/Os was 1 key. Some of the trades didn't even accepted offers and there was only one counter-offers from buyers, which apparently was ignored. I think it's safe to assume that they sold it for 1 key, since if there was any negociation it was done privately and this helps nothing on setting prices. I'm not saying "let's ignore the buyers side", but there are a bunch of trades where the price of the good is 1 key, and one or other trade where it was the last price (2-2.33 ref), if it's a selling trade it's sold immediatly, because buyers know that it's cheap. I think the spreeadsheet should show us an average and since it's way easier find trades where the guillotine is 1 key, I think the price should go up.

I disagree when you say B/O tends to be higher, I can always buy items paying the prices set here (backpack.tf) with almost no effort, the exception was that guillotine. I entered on almost every trade that I found, placed a bid on a lot of them and had my bid declined, saw way higher B/Os from sellers (4 ref - 2 keys) and way lower from buyers (1-1.66 ref), but from what I've saw, 1 key looks the average.