Suggestion: Strange Equalizer at 0.05–0.11 ref

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~3.05 ref

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This suggestion was accepted Sun, 11 Nov 12 21:34:34 +0000 by Brad Pitt | statsroyale.com.

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http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/49301801

Almost every single person that was once buying them for a scrap doesn't anymore because they got a shit ton of them.

i can back this up , i am trying to gather a lot of S.equalizers just to craft a hat out of it , i'm paying 1 craft wep each and so far i have bought 18 , so people do sell them for less then a scrap.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5763368

Agreed. Its worthless, no demand for it.

I've sold them for .11-.22 many times. I do not believe these are just worth a regular weapon and my sales have proved this to me. DOWNVOTED

I call bullshit. Not a single trade on them in the last 3 months on your OP profile. Lack of proof, loving it.

Apart from this one: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6124735

Loving how you've totally sold that equalizer there.

Actually, I've periodically sold these many times. I also use other places like the Steam Forums to buy and sell. Here is an old one from the forums = http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2827906 as you can see the last edited date. yup. here is another older one http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2810383 . A couple older ones from Outpost = http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/3067134 and http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/2435946 (ended up selling these on the forums so closed this trade). I also have a new trade up now http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6124735 . So I feel like I've been around this item for a long time. And it's value has fell. However, like Brad mentioned " anyone who wants to sell this for half a scrap would probably craft it before selling it that cheap" . I believe that hit the head of the nail. Why even bother putting it on the market for half a scrap? Might as well craft it. Also, it's limited. Unlike uniques. That's why I'm not seeing the proposed half of scrap to be accurate.

That makes alot of sense. Might as well craft it then try and sell it if the price is as low as 1 weapon.

But that's not the point. The point is that people sell/buy them for one weapon, and successfully. Whether people want to go through the trouble of actually selling it for one weapon is their own problem but it has been done, and easily. Drop the 'yeah but people may as well craft it then' argument because that's basically saying that people consider them as a normal weapon.

Why would this cost the same price as a normal weapon? Considering normal weapons sell for .11 (yes the real value is .05) this should never cost less than .11, horrible suggestion.

Oh, I dunno, because they actually sell for that much?

It's very hard to sell weapons for 0.11 anymore due to scrap.tf.

It shouldn't be possible to buy a strange Equalizer for a normal one...

Some weapons take 2 weapons to get so some weapons can be consider 1-2 weapons and I'm sure you can get a cool weapon like a pomsom and get this strange with it.

I'm sure the normal one is worth less then half a scrap. XD

Might be possible to buy 2 s equalizer with 1 scrap

The main problem is that whenever any site says a Strange is 0.11 people start buying it at a weapon each.

Yes, but that's just the thing. Successful trades are conducted at a weapon each. And that's what this site is about, is it not? Reflecting the current market? Well, this is the current market.

Unlike most strange weapons, the Equalizer's a special case since it's a spawn off of the old Equalizer being split into two weapons: the Escape Plan kept the stat people want while the new Equalizer is just, well, crap. It's one of a very few stranges I would say is worth as much as it's original weapon: nothing.

Honestly, anyone who wants to sell this for half a scrap would probably craft it before selling it that cheap. There is a limited count of them, as worthless as they may be.

Maybe they'll trade for a weapon they're missing instead of crafting it like the pomsom or manmelter

I've had no problem selling this for a scrap. Took me under an hour to sell it. Downvoted

Range (noun):

-The area of variation between upper and lower limits on a particular scale.

I get where you guys are coming from but seriously, just because it's a strange it doesn't mean it HAS to be worth more than a normal weapon. Supply and demand. The supply number is huge and the demand is insanely low. That's how an economy works, because sometimes it is quantity over quality. I'm just gonna start buying them for a weapon each now so I can craft them together.

I can only imagine that in 2 months so many people crafted these that they ended up being rare and will cost a lot more.

Doubt it, but we shall see.

If an item won't sell for a price, it won't sell for that price. It is possible to sell for 0.11, that's why the price says 0.05-0.11. So stop debating over whether or not it's fair to list it for less than a scrap. From what I see this post dictates a price perfectly; easy to sell at low end (0.05), hard to sell at high end (0.11), not impossible to sell at scrap (like some people assume this thread is trying to say). Just very hard.

Thank you, that's basically what I've been trying to get across to people.

As the last suggester of this price, I feel I should chime in; not only did I personally find it impossible to sell for a scrap, but EVERY quickbuyer I looked up had a very clear "not buying s equalizers" note in their post.

Either of these situations may have changed in the last month (I doubt it), but when quicksellers aren't willing to take your items that's a rather severe red flag for me.

"it's a strange" isn't a valid reason to downvote, as supply and demand has shown!

Another example would be the unique quality Halloween 2012 items, some of which are more expensive than their Haunted counterparts. All about supply and demand.

The Equalizer's bottom value is half a scrap because it's a craftable weapon. There are so many of these things and no one bloody wants them. Hell, if stranges weren't craftable, this would be worth less than the unique quality.

So, because people on outpost won't buy them for a scrap, it means they're worth a weapon?

No, because people on the outpost have bought many for a weapon, it means they're worth a weapon TO a scrap. Why is no one noticing the range?

I'd say the problem is that the range means many people will auto assume that it's worth 1 weapon and disregard the scrap. That's what the suggested value communicates, sadly.

If it can get 1 scrap then it's worth 1 scrap to me. If people are buying them for 1 weapon on outpost, they're doing so to sell on for 1 scrap, which is why 0.11 is FINE. Let the outpost lowballers keep lowballing with an unofficial '1 wep' price and let everyone else just trade it at a reasonable price.

Do remember most people go by spreadsheet anyway. For like, the 7th time, this is reflecting the current price. Do as you will, but that's how it is at the moment.

As an experiment I just sold mine for a scrap...

Took 1 minute

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6165916

Oh for fucks sake, I'm not even gonna bother with replying to you anymore

What can I say, you're an immovable object and I'm an unstoppable force.

It reflects the current price when you include people buying them under their value, yes....

Lets reduce everything else this happens to and watch everything reduce in price shall we?

Do you not understand the RANGE?

Yes I do, but this RANGE applies to quicksellers who are selling to people who know they can make a profit because they know they can get a scrap for this. Because it's worth a scrap.

The argument here was that you can't even get a scrap for these anymore. you REALLY can, it took me a minute. Do some people sell them wrong? Yeah probably. Do they sell them for 1 weapon? I'm sure they do. Doesn't mean that's the correct price, just like any other quick sell.

ofc I know i could sell my strange equalizer for a weapon, if I got desperate, which I didn't. I dont need to look at an updated price sheet to tell me that :/

Just leave it alone ffs

If the argument was that you couldn't get a scrap anymore then it wouldn't be in the fucking range. Yes, I am getting pissed off at you now.

Did you change your mind since OP??

'These things don't even go for 0.11 because they're bloody terrible.'

'No buyers'

You're wrong, and it doesn't justify introducing this shitty rock bottom range.

That was an emphasis on how hard it CAN be to sell for 0.11. Otherwise it wouldn't be in the range.

Want me to say it another 30 times for you? Because it seems like you can't get that through your rock hard head.

Also, here http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5763368

Now shut your yap.

If that's the case, then we should just abolish all ranges and replace them with the low or high end of that range (depending on whether it's a buyer or a seller suggesting the new price). It's silly to say that ranges don't really mean anything because buyers prefer the low end (just as the many sellers here prefer the high end). If the weapon regularly sells for 1 weapon, only to get resold for 1 scrap, then that would tend to support the range.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5038955

My trade. Sold 6 for 2 scrap and i already lost count how many i sold for 1.5 scrap in many servers. I had a huge collection of them. Only 5 left.

Obvious downvote.

LOL it's taken you over a month, you obviously look successful

Cause its hard to sell for 2 scrap, but i STILL manage to sell them for that price. 1.5 scrap is a matter of minutes on any trade server. Never had the need to sell them for even a scrap.

So at the most, 1 scrap would be a nice price. 0.5 scrap just no.

Explain why so many people have bought it for a weapon then. At the moment, what you're doing is called being selfish.

They buy it for a weapon because they think it's worth a scrap...

Yeah it's hard to sell this for a scrap. Then again, it's hard to sell a strange kritz for 2 buds, but it's entirely possible. The reality is that people buy and sell on both ends of this range, with outliers selling for higher sometimes.

This was 2 weeks ago. It does not reflect the CURRENT price.

And yet strangely, I sold mine for a scrap. I suppose I was lucky. xD

It's part of the range, isn't it?

While this weapon is pretty undesirable there are still plenty of people to instantly buy it at a scrap.

Why are 4 of those 5 links unsold then

He is trying to create a range guys. He says its not impossible to get a scrap, but getting a weapon is much easier/much more likely.

Strange Equalizer is becoming the Strange Shiv

Hey, c'mon, the shiv is actually pretty useful. :)

I meant outrageous supply/low, low price. I love my Strange Shiv to death and wouldn't swap it out for anything other than a Strange Pan. Best sniper melee by far.

Price suggestion: 1 lazor wep

There won't be many more buyers at half a scrap either. There is just too much supply and nobody wants them. However anybody should rather craft it and therefore reduce the number in circulation, than sell it for one weapon

That's what I'm trying to do now

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5991501 I sold 9 of them for a scrap each in 5 days. In my opinion the current range in just fine.

There is no range in the current price, the hell are you on about? And again, again again again, 0.11 is IN THIS RANGE.

yeah , i dont understand people arguing about this, its clearly stated that the RANGE is from a weapon to a scrap, so you can buy/sell at those prices. yes it is an unwanted strange and the escape plan is doing so much better, still this is an alternative for those that cant afford the later, upvote

Some people pay 1 scrap for ANY strange. I know some of them don't accept

S. equalizer but some do and it's not hard to find.

That.

Is why.

It is in.

The fucking range.

You can't talk normal? Maybe you should try visiting a institution

Don't push your luck.

haha you are so cute trying to act tough

Thing is, I ain't acting. Actually shut the fuck up. You're not contributing in any way.

No you are contributing something. Attacking people for stating their opinion. And reported you for inappropriate behavior kid.

"fite me irl"

"say that to my face fucker not online see what happens"

-Raynbow

I doubt this 6 year old younger kid would say anything against me irl

He should learn to stfu more. I wouldn't be surprised if he talks like this to his mother too. But she probably deserves it though for bringing such a retard to the world.

Don't need to bring personal attacks here.

You took it a bit far vercetti.

however you didnt state any links selling it for a weapon or even buying it for a weapon, also with it not being hard to find, that is exactly right. I found 15 links in two pages of results all of people buying any strange for a scrap. if you just look at people buying stranges you can find them actually buying them at a scrap instead of people selling it and making both people have to look.

i cant see how a regular item can be more exciting then a strange it cant get any lower then a scrap

Finally I have to agree with this.

Also, try to calm down a bit, even if the comments may annoy you.

I know man, I know, but it's 3am and I've been listening to this all day, it gets to you after a while.

It must be tough having a period these days..

I don't think this should be possible, .11 is a standard low for any strange. those links don't prove much. 1. just because a trade is 2 days old and hasn't sold everything doesn't mean the items are badly valued. he should have put his prices for his items in his description instead of asking people to follow a link that many people might find suspicious. 2. the equalizer sold for 1 scrap 4. it sold for 1 scrap 5. people are wanting to buy it at 1 scrap that actually disproves your point. i can easily sell any .11 strange on http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2trade/ , within minutes i'll sell any strange thats up for .11 if you would like to me grab my trade history i can

Still in the range.

Pretty much a worthless strange, jes.

I craft every single one I get.

i sold mine for a key not too long ago, i punched myself in the face to check if i was dreaming

Person must have though it was a S. Escape Plan.

If I don't post on this suggestion I feel like I'm going to be missing out on the party:

I've had these up for sale since the beginning of the split (EQ / EP) and it's extremely difficult to sell at 1 scrap. It has to be the least desired strange weapon in the game, and I have thought about just deleting them on more than one occasion.

To the people who think "a strange shouldn't be worth less than a scrap", there's absolutely no reason for that belief; if nobody is buying them for 1 scrap, then no matter what the item is, it's not worth 1 scrap.

There's absolutely no reason that the strange version has to be worth more than the regular version. Sure, the strange version is limited and the regular version isn't...but when the demand is so much lower than the supply, the limited strange version is just as worthless as the unlimited unique.

Gotta upvote this, a range is a range. Who cares about quicksells when there are no quickbuys.

if you read my comment I found 15 results of people quickbuying.

have I made my point yet? I would not have made so many links if I hadnt just searched for a random crap strange and lots of results of people buying them for a scrap each, I literally just searched for a crap strange and clicked on the results and copied the links to this suggestion, it is seriously easy to find someone to pay a scrap each for a strange. if I didnt make my point I could bring up a lot more links if you want, I only searched one strange and then found a lot of people buying at a scrap each. stranges are at least a scrap. no one trades a strange weapon for a random weapon unless they want to buy that weapon, and when a weapon is bought it is bought at a scrap, stranges are better than regular weapons.

I wouldn't even trade a clean weapon I use for this crappy Escape Plan wannabee.

It's still selling for 1 scrap easily... You search for a buyer of an strange equalizer and you can find one easily. I search for buyer and within the first page and i seen at least 5 buyers on the front page. There's always people buying random stranges for scrap. Downvote.

Almost all of them will get overstocked on S. Equalizers. Just look how many of them aren't accepting S. Equalizers anymore. Also, once again it is in the range.

I am slightly distressed that this suggestion is still up.

Ugh.

Fine.

0.11, but wait, doesn't want them

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5919675

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5983063

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6122065

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6104905

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4880428

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5694638

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/3473436

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4954477

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5742106

0.05

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5763368 (18 in bp)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4964862 (2 in bp)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5460257 (3 in bp)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5314154 (3 in bp)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6147992 (1 in bp)

If ya don't agree, door's that way

I listed 15 links where people were buying ANY strange for a scrap. this includes equalizers, and when you look for people buying any stranges for a scrap you always search for the most obviously low tier strange, such as bottle, bonesaw, eyelander, and the detonator. but you do realize that first guy with 18 in his bp bought from few people right? there were 4 people who offered and one of them sold 9 for 4 scrap meaning he obviously doesnt know prices. oh I just realized that you only posted 14 links and I posted 15 links. I do agree this should be closed though. also I tried this crap for 1 weapon each and got no one to add me or offer.

Why do you think 0.11 is in the range?

because it is worth .11 what I am against is it being .05 when people buy any stranges for a scrap, its worth a scrap. the current range is fine which is a scrap

It's like responding to "Why is the sky blue?" with "Because it is blue."

it is nothing like that. If a range is made for how much a dollar costs, and you include 50 cents to a dollar, and then people start saying how its worth a dollar, and the person who suggested it wont stop saying 'Why do you think a dollar is in the range?' and the obvious response is because it is only worth a dollar. Likewise with this suggestion, he may say that this is worth a scrap but hes trying to say its worth half of what its worth, we are giving links that the lower end is wrong. If ANYONE here thinks that a strange is worth a weapon then add me and I'll give you a weapon for it. But its been quite a while and i have not been able to buy any strange equalizers for a weapon each... this crap doesnt work. its worth a scrap, stop trying to say people sell it for a weapon, without giving any links SELLING it for a weapon. people lowball on outpost, people buy craft hats for 1-1.22 on outpost but no one sells for 1-1.22 on outpost normally, you can lowball like that, but real prices are based on the sellers. all your links of people selling are selling for a minimum of a scrap. because sellers sell for .11+ no less, heres a seller who sold at 2 scrap: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5079663 and another two sold for a rec http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6163895 if you are going by the argument that irrational trades should be in the range, then put all these in the range too. make it .05-.33, and dont worry, your price is in the range! nothing to worry about there right? people scam at these crazy prices of .22-.33 and .05, but as long as theres a range it cant be wrong! NO, leave out the lowballers in price suggestions, it can be sold for a scrap to any of the 15 people I linked to, (I only searched through TWO PAGES to find those) it is easy to find people to buy at a scrap, you see the lowballers who buy at a weapon and because it is worth a scrap you put a scrap in the range. However this strange weapon is not worth a random weapon. unless you want to make .22-.33 a part of the range because it can be sold for that, dont base the price off the lowest cheapest you could find when BUYING them, you cant find any sellers selling for under a scrap. not even one. my argument is that even the lowballers you find when you search for strange buyers, they even offer a scrap. you can find lower if you are stupid enough not to look. but you can find way higher from the lowballers (1 scrap) but you can sell them for more if you open your own trade (such as .11-.33) learn that prices are not based off lowballer prices, and if you dont, then dont include only the lowballers prices, include the seller price too. Find ANY seller selling it for a weapon. and see if that trade lasts 2 minutes without someone adding and commenting.

Super Monkey, I read the first four sentences of your argument, then I stopped taking you seriously. By your logic, we should set the value of the strange equalizer in strange equalizers ("a dollar ... is worth only a dollar").

Scratch that, I decided to read the rest. I took the time to see that one of those strange equalizers from trade (6163895) is still in Crazy Monk's backpack. The other appears to have been deleted or crafted.

In trade (5079663), the seller has had 4 equalizers up for ~2 weeks now. As of yet only one person has actually bought any (read: only one equalizer). The only other post in the trade was presumably an offer that was deemed "too low" and hidden.

Your links provide TWO trades of people ASKING for certain prices, I fail to see the other 13 you claim to have linked us. On top of that, you provided NO EVIDENCE that those two sellers actually did sell for their asking prices. In fact, all you did was show us that these one equalizer was traded for an unknown price.

Why has this not been accepted yet? There's more than enough proof the range is an accurate reflection of market trends.

Also to anyone saying "sold mine for a scrap":

There is a range. A scrap is on this range. You're not arguing against the price, you're actually supporting it in a way.

Public service announcement:

EVERYONE

PLEASE NOTICE THAT 0.11 IS PART OF THE RANGE

Don't make me smack a bitch

Thank you.

We know that, the problem is that 0.05 is in the range too.

Its obvious that 0.05 is a quicksell/lowball price. Since when is that considered a true value? Lets change all craft hat's ranges to 1-1.33 while we're at it.

I'd say the problem here is that there isn't really anywhere reasonable to go below a scrap and the new lower range price reflects desperation and greed more than anything else. If that's something we've got to adjust prices for, you've got your work cut out mate.

This is why you're facing negative feedback, along with the fact that your OP is inaccurate in some ways.

Nothing personal, but thanks for the insults anyway.

Not directing it at you but everyone that doesn't notice it in general because almost everyone in here is really annoying. Anyway when about 45% of quickbuyers put a note in their trade that they no longer want s. equalizers for 1 scrap then you know that there's a problem.

I know, I agree that it does sit slightly below other 1 scrap stranges when it comes to ease of selling (in bulk, probably).

I just think the new suggested range would do more harm than good by 'officially' placing it below all other strange weapons, making 1 scrap harder to get. We all know what really happens when traders see a price range.

We should already know this item will quicksell for 1 weapon anyway, as it's pretty much the lowest form of decent currency available to use. So that's why I'd say the range isn't really needed in this case.

It's because there's no breathing room between a wep and a scrap innit blud.

It really can't do any harm if almost no one wants it anyway, I mean really either way it doesn't matter, it's crap, spreadsheet will continue to list it at 0.33 (and every idiot will try sell for that) but currently it's reached a stage that one weapon trades aren't uncommon. Also, if people happen to be crafting these with other weapons, doesn't it mean people already consider this to be worth 0.05? Think about it.

Also if you think it's worth a bit less than other one scrap stranges, do a 0.8-0.11 suggestion.

That's probably the range I'd go for if I felt the need to change it. But I don't think it's worth the effort tinkering because, IMO, there isn't any real benefit to change it from a scrap (apart from some motivation to truly kill the value).

Also thinking of the anger and stress you're going through right now :p

I'd say people who are crafting these are choosing quick metal over the time it takes to list, add and trade these things. It's fair enough but I didn't know we used examples of quicktrades, lowballs and desperation to value items. If we do, then the range works.

Depends how you look at it really. Really I just want someone to either decline or accept this price because this has really gone on a bit too long now, surely with 500 votes you can make up your minds, price mods?

Oh well. I'm gonna stick to more obvious suggestions from now on.

This is a lot of arguing for something in the price range of a normal weapon. Who cares. people melt them and people buy and sell for a scrap. just accept it.

dis sugestin is clerly rong becus [anecdotal evidence]

upvote

Man. I feel bad for you seems like no one understands how a range works.

1 scrap (possible. bet its hard unless you dump on unwarry buyer)

.5 has been done alot seen people sell these away at that amount. (usually in bulk)

i totally agree with your range but wont vote on this. as i wont need to. so many votes already. just read some of the comments and people complaing that it can be sold for 1 scrap even tho it is in the range. and they arent realizing there arent quick buyers and there are lots of people ready to sell it away for anything even a weapon.

So much drama over a weapon that's worth fuck-all and nobody wants

Good proof of sales for a scrap each. Why do we need a range on this? I'm not seeing people posting up trades "1 weapon for this strange". No one wants it but no one is really giving it away either.

Buying all strange equalizers for a weapon each, add me.

This whole range nonsense is getting annoying. It tends to make any suggestion valid as long as the current price is also included in the range.

inb4 "i sell them for a scrap" - 1 scrap is in the new suggested range. You can also buy S. Equalizers for 1 weapon, supporting the fact that the range is valid

HAHAHAHA it hit me that you guys are debating the price of a strange EQUALIZER?! What next? Strange razorback?

I held onto two for months, hoping for two scrap apiece, and that didn't happen.

Then I tried going for 3 scrap for both.

Eventually I just tossed them in a giveaway.

Easy upvote.