Suggestion: Max's Severed Head at 41.25–55 keys

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~25 keys

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Main problem is lvl1 Max's Head, they tend to reduce the global value of this hat. But you can't do much for that, people don't want lvl1 ones and will value them 1.5-1.75 buds even if these duped hats have been "approved" by Valve by given them a new ID.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5428495 buying Max for Buds + 18 key i.e 46 keys and 38 keys for Level 1/7

this guy the only guy that do businesses buys them 1.6 buds the clean ones

38 keys the Duped ones

Okay I'm just going to copy and paste too.

He HAS two. There are no indications anywhere on that trade that he bought those for that price. Check every single response.

mate there is another price suggestion about the same item !! you think is coincidence or a need of the market?i let you judge that!

i am just letting my suggestion up and running so the community can choose between its favorite new range !

What? Also, "...so the community can choose between its favorite new range...." Assumption there already.

also i am not removing the 2 buds as i bealive that cleans should sell as high

the low end of the range i suggested is for dupes!!

they might have a new id but they share the shame trading history and that`s something that makes the item inappropriate as currency!

Your evidence is rather selective and faulty. Also it might be worth your time to look at this (and the other past suggestions if you'd like too). http://backpack.tf/vote/id/50b32d65ba25362347000041

those had no proofs

This one's no better.

also i am not removing the 2 buds as i bealive that cleans should sell as high

the low end of the range i suggested is for dupes!!

also i am not removing the 2 buds as i bealive that cleans should sell as high

the low end of the range i suggested is for dupes!!

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6099752

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6568649

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6769354

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6768338

some wait for months some drop the price to sell in weeks

problem is that this item used to be 6000 clean

now there are over 2400 dupes ppl is affraid to invest on them and the item remained unsold noone have made a sold as i known for 2 buds the last 1 month

so a price range is demanded for the market to roll!

Again, that's very selective evidence. I'd recommend closing this suggestion if you hadn't already gone into negative points but I guess that it won't do you any harm now (assuming that the daily -5 reset is still happening).

thing is i am selling a vintage.FoW and ppl trys to buy it for a max head ,wich is mega super hyper duped. maybe the price of it was at 2 buds for a long time but ,nowdays the max is reaching out the 10000 units so i am sure that in some point its price will fall and i believe ,the time is now, that keys and buds are more expensive than ever!

Oh I see. You want Max ([url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6791860[/url] "i also buy 1 bud max") so you are trying to devalue it and also hoping to get the FoW upgrade that you've been after ([url]http://backpack.tf/vote/?all=1&steamid=76561198002055092[/url]) in one go.

isn't the fan o war more suite as currencie in higher tier items

and i dont care for the negative flag cause thats not my main account cheers

Max's are used as currency and it has always been at 2 buds.

not really they where one bud 2011 after some dupes where found around 500 of them

nowadays dupes are around 2500

But you dont know market prices are not based on how many there are of a certain item... it's based on demand, so bringing up 2500 or 500 isn't useful. Dupes doesnt make the price of the legit ones drop and it shouldn't.

If there are so many dupes floating around in the market, it does drop the price of the legit ones because supply>demand.

also i am not removing the 2 buds as i bealive that cleans should sell as high

the low end of the range i suggested is for dupes!!

It only drops the price of level 1 and 7 ones....it doesnt affect other levels in any case whatsoever. Level 1/7 fetch 1.8 buds and others 2 buds any day

yes thats why a range is needed for ppl not to get scammed

OK so lets say this suggestion is approved...what do you think will happen? People wont ever know that lower range is for dupe ones and higher for clean ones. People will say Backpack.tf says max is 1.5 buds so i will pay 1.5 buds and if its level 1 or 7 I will pay 1 buds.....thats the menatlity of average TF2OP trader. This will never stop.

And everyone knows if an item is duped it will fetch only 70-80% of the original price.....there is no need to include that in price suggestion. Tomorrow some other guy will say lets make Buds price suggestion for 15-28 keys....15 keys for duped ones and 28 keys for clean ones.

this happened to unusuals since backpack.tf launced too.

every single item has a high drop in price

and insteed of key drop they rise i guess it was about time to see a major drop in all currency

first max then buds and finally keys!

oh and big kills too

I actually like the sound of that......I blame backpack.tf for ruining unusual market with their 'pricing guide'. Idiots who don't know squat about unusuals put up price suggestions and vote on them. People changing the price ranges judging from offers in week or two so they can farm some 'rep' here -.-

But no....this is wrong and it wont happen. It happened because no one was there to stop against the drop in unusuals. barely few people will resist change in prices of BMOC's, festives, collector's items because it doesnt concern 75% of the trading community. Their logic 'the cheaper the better'. The moment someone says bring keys back to 2.55 everyone will downvote saying' HURR I sold 40 keys @3 ref each so thats the price lol xD'

Its easier to bring down buds and Max then bringing down keys to 2.55. It would be easier to up the price of unusuals.

oh they should mate cause rarety is what counts most after all we have plenty promotional items to use for currency now that cant be duped as the uncraftables promos

they used to be 6000 now 8488

also i am not removing the 2 buds as i bealive that cleans should sell as high

the low end of the range i suggested is for dupes!!

Level 1/7 Max's are always hard to sell. Whether they have a clean history or not.....buyers do not want to buy Level 1/7 max unless its as cheap as duped one.

Valve recently stopped deleting trades and reset history on many Max's so its hard to know which ones are/were duped and which aren't. People thought doing so would help remove boundaries between dupe and non duped but NO.....idiot of trading community now doesnt want any Level 1/7....IDK what they are so f***ing paranoid about?

Anyway I sold my Level 1 Max for 47 keys pure last week

Also:

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5428495[/url] Quicksell buyer buying Max for Buds + 18 key i.e 46 keys and 38 keys for Level 1/7

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6014973[/url] 2 buds - 7 keys = ~50 keys for clean Max

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6593935[/url] quicksell buyer buying Max for 48 keys (except Level 1/7)

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6795933[/url] paying buds + 20 keys for max 9except Level1/7)

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6817463[/url] - 2 buds for real clean Max

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5508159[/url] quicksell buyer buying Max for 48 keys (39 keys in case of duped of Level 1/7)

Above only suggests that its easy to sell max for 48-50 key to a quicksell buyer. You can easily get 2 buds out of it, if it isn't level1 or 7

Downvoted

OP's price range is a bit too large, I agree.

Its not large its completely wrong. Look at all those quicksell buyer links i posted. They will pay 48 keys any day for Max if its not level 1 or 7. 48 keys = ~1.9 buds.

bads +18 keys is 46 keys and its in my range! 1.6 buds

thanks for the proofs

Its what quicksell buyer is offering which only accounts for 2-5% of the trades occuring....and then there are others buying for 1.9 buds.

if you would check seller trades it would be obvious that they sell for 2 buds easy

also i am not removing the 2 buds as i bealive that cleans should sell as high

the low end of the range i suggested is for dupes!!

also i am not removing the 2 buds as i bealive that cleans should sell as high

the low end of the range i suggested is for dupes!!

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5428495 Quicksell buyer buying Max for Buds + 18 key i.e 46 keys and 38 keys for Level 1/7

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6593935 quicksell buyer buying Max for 48 keys (except Level 1/7)

Not one sale happened in those.

he bought 2 actually

the first link

He HAS two. There are no indications anywhere on that trade that he bought those for that price. Check every single response.

also i am not removing the 2 buds as i bealive that cleans should sell as high

the low end of the range i suggested is for dupes!!

also i am not removing the 2 buds as i bealive that cleans should sell as high

the low end of the range i suggested is for dupes!!

also i am not removing the 2 buds as i bealive that cleans should sell as high

the low end of the range i suggested is for dupes!!

so i guess you shouldnt downvote this!

cause we need cheaper currencies to trade and max is way overprised !

buds are next

also i am not removing the 2 buds as i bealive that cleans should sell as high

the low end of the range i suggested is for dupes!!

http://s1252.beta.photobucket.com/user/JuliaGillardtheHonest/media/Fun.jpg.html

so what, i am responding to the comments above my rep is 6 down

i have 24 votes so till know we have

18 yes

6 no`s

that`s a win for yes i guess ladys and gemlenten

but we`ll see

Downvoted because only lvl 1 and lvl 7 max's goes for less than 2 buds (or obviously duped max's).So nonduped ones is 2 buds strait.It's tf2 currency for unusual marked I don't think it can drop in unusual trader's eyes

would it helped if i give a link with a triple duped level 42 max mate?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6787158

it appears to be in 3 bp`s

i have a list for over 2500 dupes

more than 20 level 100

more than 200 level 42

more than 1000 level 1-7

the rest are random levels!

....Do you have anything else better to do than just sit here and wait for comments?

Also, you arn't rich. Your backpack is worth 133 dollars, which isn't much at all.

this account is poor indeed

but i use this to complete my level 23 collection so i dont care much thats why i use it to suggest prices so it wont affect my main accounts

.i am a vintage collector with a quite huge collection my items fit in 100 accounts as i have said in the past .

thank god valve considered that by launching the upgarde gift and made the bp`s 2000 slot.

rich i dont know eccentric for sure

others account i own are private

for security reason without friends .

i own about 58 V.FoW though till day!

I have a trillion HOUWARs on another account. Really.

1645

exist

Did I say a trillion? My mistake. I meant four trillion.

blabla bla mate!

yes but the unusual market needs a new currencie mate!!

how about the v.FoW

or the V.Concheror

the suit better for unusual pricing!

3 v.FoW =1 houwar

2 concheror= 1 houwar

10 buds = 1 houwar

and you can price houwar up to some god tier unusualls

i dont do it to gather all houwars i do it cause it`s

a vintage

b promo`s

c rare

d cear

e none duped! get it

even if you can or some claim that can control the vintage market by owning those items.

its hard to control the unusual market and i dont know who could right now . . .

except maybe Matie..

You are claiming that Maxes are overpriced and then offer "2 vintage concherors = 1 HOUWAR" as an alternative? It seems you are trying to devalue unusuals while overpricing items you supposedly have.

Thanks for the free rep.

i have rjected a secret to everybody + sweets unusual for my V.FoW

and i am planning to reject everyone i meat until i get 1:1 with houwar!

proofs

http://s1129.beta.photobucket.com/user/avidadollars/media/Untitled.png.html

I hope you know you can't have alt accounts on outpost.

idiot.

As I said duped max's goes for less than 2 buds.And that duped lvl 100 maxs is still worth much.Also when someone offers max's head for unusual it counts like 2 buds offer (if it's not lvl 1/7 max's)

its in the suggested range

Yes,but average price must be 2 buds not 1.9

no average is 1.75 for my suggestion 1.8 in the other one you can choose by voting !

yes but the unusual market needs a new currencie mate!!

how about the v.FoW

or the V.Concheror

the suit better for unusual pricing!

3 v.FoW =1 houwar

2 concheror= 1 houwar

10 buds = 1 houwar

and you can price houwar up to some god tier unusualls

those items above are not duped and in safe hands!

what the hell ? First of all, this is promo item and when I look it up, I see that there are only

Below: "yes but the unusual market needs a new currencie mate!!

how about the v.FoW"

YOU HAVE PRETTY MUCH ADMITTED THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO BOOST YOUR ITEM WITH THIS.

So... Got some relevant evidence yet? It's been a few hours now. If you throw me another duplicated or Level 1/7 one then I'll simply counter by mentioning the Level 100 ones.

--- or above. I don't know where this comment will be shifted to.

find me one dupe V.FoW

i ll saw you as much duped maxs you want!at any level you wish!

;)

cheers

i am huppy the chat brig up such a delicate subject for discussion by the communitie!

thanks for helping me out on this one too

I'm not asking for evidence of the duplications. I'm asking for evidence of trades that are: 1.5-2 Earbuds for one standard Max's Severed Head.

so you are saying its fine not to have a range in an item that you allredy have witnesed duped as hell.

and have it nearlly standing to the same price as the V.FoW

when its place is 1 .5 buds below?

i cant follow your ressoning mate i am really sorry!

I think we just need an exclamation mark on Max Head's price that says (Level 1 sold at 1.6-1.8 buds).

It's only level 1 that is the problem, not level 7. There are as many level 7s in the economy as other levels.

There's a good reason, on the other hand, for level 1 to be cheaper: there are 14x as many level 1s as any other number.

[url]http://stats.tf/item/162/Max%27s_Severed_Head[/url]

Just look,just look http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6795933

Why is this suggestion still up? Why aren't the admins doing their bloody job?

Maxes Heads ARE NOT going down. Hell, not even duped Maxes heads will force the price down, why? Because when they were initially duped the price already dropped on all Max Heads to compensate. Now people know about the duped levels, but that is NOT the market norm on Max Heads.

You link a general search of Max Heads as evidence? The other links are no good either, as they get item offers of OVER TWO BUDS.

Let me teach you something; A lot of people simply don't have Buds, or pure currency. Anything that demands a high price in promos is harder to sell, but on nearly every Max Head trade you see item offers that exceed the Bud value. So how is the price dropping exactly? Oh, it's not, you're just an idiot.

Oh hey, check this out. It's the OP's trade link to his Fan.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6791860

I think we should lower the value of the Vintage Fan of War, because the offers you're getting are piss poor (No one has even offered a Max Head for it, which is ironic).

http://s1129.beta.photobucket.com/user/avidadollars/media/Untitled.png.html

secret to everybody madam dixie + sweets

thats my point excactly

value unusuals with max

but have a higher teir vintage item to vilue things as houwars

or 2

or 4

vintge shortshtop 10 buds this valuation would actually give a reasson to the shortshop to exist as a houwar only replacement!

v.FoW 4

v.Concheror 8

e.t.c

cant use maxs cause they are multidupes if you are a collector you dont get payed with bunnies

and thank you for pointing this out

you people damage the trades!

you think a collector would sell lets

say a v.fan if the prices where to drop?

resolting less posts

so someone that is interest into would have a hard time to locate it

noone wins

so do you really thing the max is a fair trad for a v.FaN

you guys have throw the collectors off the market,and the market is suffering

Actually, I think a Vint Fan for a Max is a bad deal for the Max owner. The V. Fan is useless, it's just rare.

Max Heads are rare, but also look good. It's a sought after, all-class hat. The Fan is a terrible weapon, that has no purpose or value apart from Vintage collectors. So yes, the Fan will more than likely LOWER in price as time goes by (Just like how all the rare vintage weapons are dropping, with the exception of the Luger, and hey we all know which promo that came from. )

"Let's stop using Max's Severed Head as currency because there are quite a few of them around; let's make Vintage FoWs the new currency because they are rare and few people have them. Oh and I have one."

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY

Having watched this proposal during its first ten hours alive, I've noticed that you very quickly gave up on trying to convince anyone that it regularly sells for 1.5 Earbuds. Rather you've been arguing that we should stop using Max's Severed Head in high-value trades because of the duplicates. You've also hinted more than enough times that you want your FoW to become valuable. This isn't even the place to propose such a movement. Why not take that to some forum? You're not even trying to hide the fact that this is a pathetic ruse to make your item suddenly more valuable than it currently is.

Sure you'll brag about your wealth after this because you have a Vintage FoW and in your head you think that it'll be worth a thousand Max's Severed Heads soon, but right now there's something that I would like to know: Do you really think that this is going to happen?

short answer yes

This is like saying Bill's are 6 because someone sold one for 6 because he was desperate...

if you want max for 2buds you sdould have keys at 2.55 142.88 ref average !!0.55+ is a rip of for a 2 bud max cause that will sky high the price at 168 ref

have in mind that the average user gets a drop per week at about 8 weapons

thats 4 scraps 168-142.88=25.12 ref

that means in real life amounts the rise in price equal to 57 weeks for christ shake!!

the average user should get 57 weeks of drops just to cover the 0.55+ gap at the average prise in keys

just dont try to be a smart ass here!

if you know what you are talking about talk. cause 6 keys with 60 is a huge distance

Why you no listen? Here's the problem! You're trying to argue based on your opinion. You're letting your emotions control you. That leads to the Dark Side.

Give us appropriate [u][u]evidence![/u][/u]

"Because an item is duped, the unduped versions aren't worth as much"

Say what?

If the amount duped maxes is so high, then the undupes should actually be worth more, since according to you they're so rare.

Also, your above argument is currently trying to argue for the price of a key. Not the max head.

IS THIS SUGGESTION EVEN ABOUT THE MAX'S HEAD? It seems you're trying to argue about an entire market shift. You're pricing the cleans based off the dupes.

Not the best idea.

"IS THIS SUGGESTION EVEN ABOUT THE MAX'S HEAD? It seems you're trying to argue about an entire market shift."

I like how I'm not the only one to observe this.

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