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I just noticed there is another suggestion on going wtf! But I still think mine is better
This one does have the right price range.
i think yours better too mate!
they are soooooooooo duped those max you cant trust them as investment !
if the has to be a currency the had to be able to sell i 2 buds firm whatever was the case.
but that has stop happening 3 - 5 months know!!
i have the other suggestion i am not closing it as it will give to the community the chance to choose between their favorite range
have a nice day!
Don't close it
You too :)
Those are just buyer links. if max isnt level 1 or 7 they go for 2 buds easy. They will sell for 50 keys easy any day which is ~1.9 buds
I know, if you want sellers link check the search. There are lots of clean max heads with b/o of 2 buds. I'm sure if I open a trade saying buying this at 1.8 buds I will get sellers. 1.9 buds is the average. Range is needed imo
Just posted this in other suggestion
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6014973[/url] 2 buds - 7 keys = ~50 keys for clean Max
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6593935[/url] quicksell buyer buying Max for 48 keys (except Level 1/7)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6795933[/url] paying buds + 20 keys for max 9except Level1/7)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6817463[/url] - 2 buds for real clean Max
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5508159[/url] quicksell buyer buying Max for 48 keys (39 keys in case of duped of Level 1/7)
whole bunch of quicksell buyers offering between 46-48 keys for a non-duped/non level 1 or 7 Max's head
I dont think this needs range. And even if it needed range in this case it would be ~5 keys.. which I think would fall under sweets range. 2 buds +/- is fine
With so many b/o of 2 buds a range is needed
that sounds a bit dumb I will tell you that no offense. Its like saying that there are so many bills with B/O 8 keys, TS Bills B/O 9 keys, B/W Bills with B/O 10 keys and Buds with B/O 28 keys.......they are promos.....they are currency. Check some trades where people are selling these. they sell for 2 buds easily.
When they say B/O, 2 buds is not the best offer they are expecting to get. 2 buds is the only offer they want to take. Its like their price.
And another thing, they cost you $60 or 2 buds or 54 keys....not everyone has that kinda money to buy Max's.....not everyone requires a Max to buy an unusual everyday....so yes they do take couple of days to sell but they do sell. So don't account time as factor saying that they are hard to sell. It would be like saying that this HOUWAR didnt go for 9 buds in a week so lets lower the price to 8 buds
Now you are sounding dumb. If something is a currency no range is needed? So Keys should be all 3 ref and buds all 28 keys? And I don't care if something is currency or not. I make a suggestion based on market.
And a Bill's hat for 8 keys gets sold within hours, painted items are a different story.
And I'm sorry but I don't make the price by 1 bud lower on this item because it doesn't get sold that fast.
I still have 2 buds in the range, yes they can be sold for 2 buds but also bought for less.
No he is not. You sound dumb, if there is no range needed for currency, how does that make keys 3 ref and buds 28 keys?
'if there is no range needed for currency, how does that make keys 3 ref and buds 28 keys?'
Because he says there is no range needed for currency. You are the one dumb here
He says he it should be 2 buds flat because its a currency. I made a argument against him with that comment. Hard to understand?
keys are 2.77-3 ref
all the currencies need a rnge upvoted
You are misunderstanding...I am not saying range is not needed because its currency.......I said that because you said (sic) 'so many have B/O set at 2 buds that is why it MUST have range'
When a seller says B/O 10 keys on Black Bills, 3 ref on key, 9 keys on V. Luger doesn't mean 'best offer'...it means 'buyout' price and it is the only price they will sell for.
OK lets take it this. Show me trades of people wanting to sell it for 48 keys/2 buds OR trades of poeple asking 2 buds for Max and not getting that offer in weeks
Open a WTB trade. I see all the time people offering Max head on 4 crates #40, but no takers. Next time I will note it
2 crate #40's? really? thats like 24 keys
you sir have earn my respect!
"0.2*27 = 5.4 keys, so in fact you admit what I said"
No i meant difference between quicksell price of 48 keys and what they go for 54 keys is barely 6 keys. But you seem to be ignoring the elephant in the room. If a hat can get 1.8-1.9 buds in quicksell why do you think there must be a range lowered to 1.8-2 buds?
Yes it can be bought for less than 2 buds or less. Everything can be bought for cheaper in quicksell....people are buying buds @25-26.....salvage crate #40 for 10 keys....V. Luger for 8 keys....successfully but that doesnt make it the actual market price
bills dont cost 2 buds + they are not that duped right now 1/6.5 max is duped
the question above me that is now deleted was
``so why bills dont get a range or a drop in value``
0.2*27 = 5.4 keys, so in fact you admit what I said
its in the suggested range mate
Supply>Demand. 20 pages full of b/o of 2 buds (even clean/painted).
You're saying that there are 20 pages of Max heads being sold for a 2 bud buy out price on TF2OP. Is that correct?
How are you getting this information? The TF2OP search that you have linked to does not show this.
they are looking to sell for anywhere near 40-50 keys way lower than price suggested here!
proof http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6466634
Thanks, that's interesting, but it does not answer the question that I asked the OP.
I'm guessing that you've already found this but here's what he meant to say. http://backpack.tf/vote/id/50c06bd7ba25368227000068
would it helped if i give a link with a triple duped level 42 max mate?
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6787158
it appears to be in 3 bp`s
you see that level 1 + level 7 arent the only multy dupes out there!
we just cant trust such an item as invest!
not to mention profit
so yes a range would be useful for start!
Your reasoning here: "[I] can't trust it."
mate you can`t trust an item that is getting duped uncontroled everyf@#$ng year
cause in the end of the day,if that keeps happening, the number of those will get more and more,
if they reach the same levels as bills
should they still cost 2 buds or 9 keys each? just asking!
what do you think?
You sound drunk.
english aint my default languge paliomalaka!
Have you checked the first link?
It's rather useless.
Yes. It is the TF2OP search that I am referring to:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/57688937/1
This does not show "20 pages full of b/o of 2 buds (even clean/painted)", as you have claimed.
I bought my Max's head for 2 buds a while ago, i couldn't find any non-duped Max's head for lower than that and i searched for a day. There were plenty of duped level 1 Max's lower than 2 buds though. Anyway just like on many unusuals pure key or bud offers are not that common so it doesn't count if you get offered unusuals priced over 2 buds for Max's? Only pure bud offers count? Because over 2 bud unusual offers for Max happen all the time.
Anyway i'm going to be honest here of course i don't want the price to drop because i have one in my backpack, so i'm not going to vote on this one even if it would deserve upvote :)
keep it at 2..i makes more sense
Same thing with this. I don't see 20 pages of trades for max, all I see is around 10 pages of people selling max head(not switching freaking color). and only level 1 lose that much value
would you pay 2 buds for this??
proof http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6466634
note: Level 42
triple duped max head?
Are you aware that you posted a buying trade?
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6466634[/url]
my bad here you go then ! : http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6787158
by the way recently i add a suggestion to raise my V.FoW`s collections price
it get downvoted to the ground!!
if you see at my op i have 6 buds offers i am declined
and i was to raise it fr 0.5 buds to!!
so what you think about backpack.tf community??
he hide it but i did took shome scrrenshoots of the offer!!
http://s1129.beta.photobucket.com/user/avidadollars/media/Untitled.png.html
madame dixie secret to everybody + sweets so!!the communite wouldn.t acceprt a suggestion of 3! buds only 3 buds and this guy come and pays 6.5 + sweets!!wtf!
Wow. You really have no idea, do you?
Since he deleted the comment, I'll try to quote what he said to the best of my memory:
"It doesn't matter if any Max Heads are duped, they are worth the same amount. People don't care if buds are duped and they don't care if Max Heads are duped."
Not exactly what I said. Good job quoting me.
I wasn't going for exact. Hence "the best of my memory." But it is basically what you said.
If you don't know what I said, then don't try. And no it's not basically what I said. My point was duped ones are bringing the price down.
Shouldn't delete your own comments then, even if they make you look slightly brain damaged.
Dont tell me what to do. Maybe your mother has brain damage but dont tell that to me ok? Thanks
So very mad. Nice flag abuse too, oh and it's a piss poor suggestion. Enjoy the - Rep from all the downvotes.
Oh, and it was simply a suggestion - "Shouldn't delete your own comments", if I was telling you to do something it would be "Don't delete your own comments" - but I guess that was too cryptic to work out, I mean English isn't exactly the easiest language to understand. Rage somewhere else now.
First it's no flag abuse. You implied I had slightly brain damage.
Second I'm not mad. In fact you sound mad.
Third. Funny I have gain more rep when I created this vote.
my rep fall for -6 but after a short period of time it come back to neutral. i guess 1.5-2 or 1.8-2 it is going to be the new range
and a range is needed!
"my rep fall for -6 but after a short period of time it come back to neutral. i guess 1.5-2 or 1.8-2 it is going to be the new range
and a range is needed!"
Again, that's because you've been voting to keep it as high as you can while claiming to have only had six votes against you because you think that people are too dumb to learn for themselves.
From VOTING. Read about how this website's reputation from suggestions is gained. Negative applies immediately; positive is awarded to you ONLY after (if) the proposition is accepted.
The dude that suggested based this on the fact that theres 20 pages of people selling it at outpost for 2 buds, but isn't there 20 pages or more of people selling bills hat for 8\9\10 keys in outpost is that overpriced too ?
But anyway you cant easily buy a max head not level 1\7 for 50 keys or less so downvoted.
I totally agree these go for less then 2 buds. When selling them for promos.
I think these only count as 2 buds when it comes to unusuals
but i wont vote on this cause im unsure if how they work in the unusual market importance is.
They go for 48 keys in quicksell (links in comments), 2 buds easy. And they count as 2 buds pure when trading for unusuals and 2.5 buds if looking for quicksell unusuals
i think quicksell is usually less then that. and i know someone who had to wait forever to sell a painted max head (high tier paint) for plain 2 buds so thats why i think 2 buds is usually the high end
but for me i have to see sellers selling for less (in their selling trade) to be say that this is a right range to give.
when im talking about this i am excluding dupes and dumb lvls that sometimes arent duped but still considered duped. (lvl 1 , 7 )
but yea definite as 2 buds in unusual trading
ima rage too.
all levels but lvl 1 is an easy sale for 2 buds. doesnt take that long at all. and its used as currency. this currency only changes when buds are affected.
ive even sold lvl 1s for 2 buds (3 of them) and had quite some hard time getting my 3 maxes for 2 buds before
The item does sell for less than 2 buds, especially when buds go over 25 keys. When earbuds hit 27-28 keys, it becomes difficult to trade a Max's Head for 2 earbuds, which is what the price guide is suggesting. Not that they're accepted as 2 earbuds in some trades; instead that they can be bought for 1.8 buds, which is completely correct. 45-50 keys for Max's Heads is the usual selling price, and perhaps should have been the new suggested price as well.
we have a winner!!
if you want max for 2buds you sdould have keys at 2.55 142.88 ref average !!0.55+ is a rip of for a 2 bud max cause that will sky high the price at 168 ref
have in mind that the average user gets a drop per week at about 8 weapons
thats 4 scraps 168-142.88=25.12 ref
that means in real life amounts the rise in price equal to 57 weeks for christ shake!!
the average user should get 57 weeks of drops just to cover the 0.55+ gap at the average prise in keys
Dont forget that keys are nearly 3 ref now. That's one the main reason's why high valued items are mostly dropping right now.
and dont forget that buds are 28 keys now!
28*3= 84 ref
164 ref for a max
when before the keys rise we had 122.44 ref for the max`s
that almost 45 ref gap is more than 60 weeks drops in items
"Another overpriced item"
just downvote...
clean , non level 1 / 7 go for 2 buds instantly
Backpack.tf ate my post. Alrighty then. Off the top of my head.
One important thing I'll note is that not every max head listed on outpost is asking for 2 buds. If you restrict it to max head->earbuds, you'll get a very manageable 9 pages of trades. A lot of these are part of unusual trades where people are asking for buds on their promos, so that cuts it down further. And then there's all the level 1/7 that, like it or not, can be disregarded as they have a nasty rep for being duped and aren't treated as 2 buds. With what's left, you can further cut out those asking for more than 2 buds. Paint does not make a difference here, as unlike Bill's, people do not treat max heads any differently in unusual trades whether painted or not.
What was left? Somewhere around 1 to 2 dozen trades wanting to sell their max heads for 2 buds. The vast majority have been made over the past 2 days. Among the smal number of older trades, a couple were selling multiples, and had already sold one.
That said, it does seem possible to buy an unduped max head for less than 2 buds. A look at buds->max heads on outpost does reveal pepole willing to sell their unduped max heads for a bit less. But is it also possible to sell for a little over 2 buds? There's certainly a fair number trying to do so. If there are people successfully selling for over 2 buds, a range here isn't really needed. A flat price work just fine, those selling for above and below being typical variance no different from those that buy unpainted Bill's for 7-7.5 keys and those that sell unpainted Bill's for 8.5-9 keys.
Personally speaking, I would argue that the far more important thing is what people are willing to treat them as currency-wise. Keys and Earbuds have ranges, but then they're less than consistent whether people will treat them as 2.77 ref/27 keys or 3 ref/28 keys in their trades. Bill's are always treated as 8 keys, unduped Max Heads are always treated as 2. With that in mind, I'd say that I personally believe current price to be fine.
So those are my heavily worded thoughts on the subject.
maheads are two buds no matter what lvl lvl1 are harder to sell but are still worth 2bud i have bought about 4max heads for 2buds thats there price maxheads are unusual currency no over hyped items like bmoc these were over hyped because of cristmas stop trying to lower item that has never had any problems with its price the people that buy them for less than 2buds sell them to make profet.Max's are 2buds and will always be
I'm closing the vote to not hurt the feelings of Max head owners. The score on the vote was positive btw