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http://backpack.tf/vote/id/50c07127ba25369527000067
as you see the community was ready for a mature vote but the owner of the suggestion closed it after some very specifick individuals attack to him.
i will let the community decides if its an overpriced item or not i will only aplly some mathematics in the next comment so happy votting guys!
max head 21-9-2012 prices = 2 buds /1 bud=26 keys /1 key = 2.66 ref average.
max price was 138 refined or 52 keys
max head 12-12-2012 prices = 2 buds /1 bud=28.5 keys /1 key = 2.88 refaverage.
max price is 164 refined or 57 keys
144 ref- 138 ref=26 ref
note to the community: the average player gets 0.44 ref drops per week !thats the valve drop system.
so the 26 rise of the price is equal with 59 weeks of drops or 1 year 2 months
I'm going to do it too:
We know that they are inflating over time. We don't care. The point is that (aside from your special levels that you will probably use to respond to this although I could counter with a Level 100) they all sell for two Earbuds, plus or minus a couple of keys at most. These trades are still happening. Actually I'm not even going to bother any more. You've admitted in the past that you're only trying to devalue these and make your Vintage FoW more valuable.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6923241
i have post a WTB offer just to see how that goes !
Seeing as how you don't have 51 keys in your inventory. I doubt it will go well.
You couldn't even trade everything in your inventory for a Max's Head. Not sure what right you think you have suggesting a change in price for it.
i challenge anyone that has the keys to do this as an experiment!by the way 20 views 7 bookmarks in 10 minutes is something
lol, the views/bookmarks came from people on this site not interested sellers...
I suggest you to close this before it reach the most voted section. No one gonna agree with this as max not level 1 can be sold easily for 2 buds.
max head 21-9-2012 prices = 2 buds /1 bud=26 keys /1 key = 2.66 ref average.
max price was 138 refined or 52 keys
max head 12-12-2012 prices = 2 buds /1 bud=28.5 keys /1 key = 2.88 refaverage.
max price is 164 refined or 57 keys
144 ref- 138 ref=26 ref
note to the community: the average player gets 0.44 ref drops per week !thats the valve drop system.
so the 26 rise of the price is equal with 59 weeks of drops or 1 year 2 months
I'm going to do it too:
We know that they are inflating over time. We don't care. The point is that (aside from your special levels that you will probably use to respond to this although I could counter with a Level 100) they all sell for two Earbuds, plus or minus a couple of keys at most. These trades are still happening. Actually I'm not even going to bother any more. You've admitted in the past that you're only trying to devalue these and make your Vintage FoW more valuable.
This again? Really? I can't even be arsed to prove you wrong this time, as there's a truckload of evidence just waiting for you on: Trade servers, Outpost, Trading Post and Bazaar.
Knock yourself out.
max is used as currency, so no. also gonna quote vincent on this:
"One important thing I'll note is that not every max head listed on outpost is asking for 2 buds. If you restrict it to max head->earbuds, you'll get a very manageable 9 pages of trades. A lot of these are part of unusual trades where people are asking for buds on their promos, so that cuts it down further. And then there's all the level 1/7 that, like it or not, can be disregarded as they have a nasty rep for being duped and aren't treated as 2 buds. With what's left, you can further cut out those asking for more than 2 buds. Paint does not make a difference here, as unlike Bill's, people do not treat max heads any differently in unusual trades whether painted or not.
What was left? Somewhere around 1 to 2 dozen trades wanting to sell their max heads for 2 buds. The vast majority have been made over the past 2 days. Among the smal number of older trades, a couple were selling multiples, and had already sold one.
That said, it does seem possible to buy an unduped max head for less than 2 buds. A look at buds->max heads on outpost does reveal pepole willing to sell their unduped max heads for a bit less. But is it also possible to sell for a little over 2 buds? There's certainly a fair number trying to do so. If there are people successfully selling for over 2 buds, a range here isn't really needed. A flat price work just fine, those selling for above and below being typical variance no different from those that buy unpainted Bill's for 7-7.5 keys and those that sell unpainted Bill's for 8.5-9 keys.
Personally speaking, I would argue that the far more important thing is what people are willing to treat them as currency-wise. Keys and Earbuds have ranges, but then they're less than consistent whether people will treat them as 2.77 ref/27 keys or 3 ref/28 keys in their trades. Bill's are always treated as 8 keys, unduped Max Heads are always treated as 2. With that in mind, I'd say that I personally believe current price to be fine.
So those are my heavily worded thoughts on the subject."
max head 21-9-2012 prices = 2 buds /1 bud=26 keys /1 key = 2.66 ref average.
max price was 138 refined or 52 keys
max head 12-12-2012 prices = 2 buds /1 bud=28.5 keys /1 key = 2.88 refaverage.
max price is 164 refined or 57 keys
144 ref- 138 ref=26 ref
note to the community: the average player gets 0.44 ref drops per week !thats the valve drop system.
so the 26 rise of the price is equal with 59 weeks of drops or 1 year 2 months
I'm going to do it too:
We know that they are inflating over time. We don't care. The point is that (aside from your special levels that you will probably use to respond to this although I could counter with a Level 100) they all sell for two Earbuds, plus or minus a couple of keys at most. These trades are still happening. Actually I'm not even going to bother any more. You've admitted in the past that you're only trying to devalue these and make your Vintage FoW more valuable.
i havent look at your bp but from your writtings i am sure i will see 2-3 of those
wont i?
i put some maths as reply to you for ppl to see.cheers
thats doesnt matter how much an average player gets each month. a good trader gets over 300 ref per month.
and yeah you will see 2 max heads in my bp, doesnt matter. look at the ids and see that they are quite old. im keeping those.
all your proof is speculation and lvl 1 maxes going for that. provide proof of non lvl 1/7 that sells for 50½ key?
geez if you can rip of 26 ref from the average player from a max transaction then no wonder how that 300 ref profit come to the average trader!!
i hope everyone will read that pert!and vote accordingly!
level1-99 isn`t make any diffirence for other hats . dont see why maxs should get away with it after all the range is needed here!
check the amounts of lvl 1 maxes. there are A LOT of duped ones.
and noone said i ripped people off maxes. im not even trading maxes. so get for facts straight before insulting me
think of it like money
buds is like a £10 note
Max is like a £20 note
a £20 note is not worth 18-20 its worth 20.
refined is money you know why
time is money
you just wasted a lot of money
WE all know this item is a 2 bud promo. What is the reason for the price change? Down-voted.
max head 21-9-2012 prices = 2 buds /1 bud=26 keys /1 key = 2.66 ref average.
max price was 138 refined or 52 keys
max head 12-12-2012 prices = 2 buds /1 bud=28.5 keys /1 key = 2.88 refaverage.
max price is 164 refined or 57 keys
144 ref- 138 ref=26 ref
note to the community: the average player gets 0.44 ref drops per week !thats the valve drop system.
so the 26 rise of the price is equal with 59 weeks of drops or 1 year 2 months
just because they rip off your money that doesnt mean we are all brain dead
Rip off your money? No one forces you or anyone to pay for anything in this game. You have a choice. Buy it or do not buy it. Play-it or do not play-it.
your bp have a language of its own!
why you hate mathematics so much!!lol
greeks used to say that thelanguge of truth and science is maths !!
thats way ?
I'm going to do it too:
We know that they are inflating over time. We don't care. The point is that (aside from your special levels that you will probably use to respond to this although I could counter with a Level 100) they all sell for two Earbuds, plus or minus a couple of keys at most. These trades are still happening. Actually I'm not even going to bother any more. You've admitted in the past that you're only trying to devalue these and make your Vintage FoW more valuable.
price on lvl 1 is different to other lvls this evidence doesn't suggest a price change for other levels maybe a note saying lvl 1 is lower...
Level 1 Max Heads were lower, this was the TF2 trade community opinion and result. A result of duped level 1 max heads. Recently Steam has wiped all the history on all level #1 Max Heads, it is and it was only a matter of time before the community accepts the level 1 max as 2 buds. Look at any level 1 MAx Head and you'll see the item history. BP me I have 3 level 1 max heads I traded from TF2 WH. If you join any of the popular Unusual Hat severs all max's are 2 buds, even the level 1's.
I have a lvl 1 max, there worth lower. there are more than 14 times the amount of lvl 1 maxs and the demand it lower. i'm selling for sell than 2 buds for this reason.
Selling lvl 1 maxs for 2 pure is really fucking hard. I use to have one and had like 900+ views on my old maxs before I got a good deal on a bubbling kabuto (a 2.5 unusual). So I basically got lucky with mine from someone who didn't care about level 1s.
just sold mine for abit over 1.5 buds i bought for 1,5 bud lvl 1 are harder to sell if you see that then :/
the broken english is deterring me.
definitely no
I so want to downvote this buy my backpack isn't worth enough D:
Why are you quoting drop rates? And what's a "mature" vote? English is probably your second language, and obviously that's fine. But nothing you've said so far supports your suggestion.
The listing you referenced is a Level 1 Max Head, which have earned a fairly notorious reputation which means they tend to be discounted.
Of course you refer us to one that is Level 1. Even with your name change I instantly knew who you are. http://backpack.tf/vote/id/50c06bd7ba25368227000068