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Surprisingly hard to buy at 25, incredibly easy to sell at 25,5.
Just an example: http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2trade/comments/15a0ev/h_3_earbuds_w_255_keys_each/
Have a downvote.
Can you confirm this? If you can i'll delete this post.
Confirm what?
This trade, prove that it's real, scroll below to see all the 24/25 offers being bought/sold.
So you are saying he's faking his trade to raise the price of buds?
Um wow, let me reorganize the links:
1: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6574663
2: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7261807
3: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7246319
4: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7159775
There we go:)
Can you can prove that people aren't buying them for 26 keys because 25 keys is still in range.
Sure, give me a second; outpost is laggy
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7249161 (6 hours)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7046200 (6 days)
Yes, there are some 26 buys from yesterday that I found, BUT they're rare and I was able to find more 24 buys than 26. Yet it balances at 25 because the buys/sells at 25 are being confirmed.
I've sold plenty at 25 keys + 1 ref.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7167261
I feel like I need to re-post this: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7159775
Oh and there's nothing wrong with the trade, buds are clean, still 25 keys.
Big deal, still covered by the current range. Not to mention he's gotten numerous responses, atleast 2 being as is. Not to mention the adds he could have gotten. Just because there's a couple of people selling for 25, doesn't mean you can make it a firm 25. There's also several sold for 26.
There's several bought at 24; does that "cover the current price range."
Your evidence seems to have alluded me. Please help me acquire it. Where are these invisible 24 key bud sales? I'd love to know so I can get some.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5788969 "Invisible?" stop commenting when you ask for evidence and I give it to you.
By touching an item as sensitive as this, your going to need more proof.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4338179
I'll be the one to post it:
http://tf2finance.com/
average is 25.48, the current range is good
I would rather listen to the community that actually owns the majority of earbuds.
Do you know how tf2finance works?
I don't think he does.
Either way, you're relying on a price that hasn't been changed since the 18th.
He's downvoting every comment against his suggestion. LOL.
I didn't flag anything? Who liked my comment? Huh? "LOL"
Yes, admins run the website's prices.
I'm asking about tf2finance, not this website.
No, it automatically scrapes real trades from TF2 Outpost, TF2 Trading Post, RAWR Trade Club and TF2-Trader. These trades show an average price of 25.48 keys, meaning the current price range is perfect.
That's true, but I think tf2finance is broken. It's not been updating for some reason.
Either way I'm never using this website because I see a ton of people selling buds for 25 on outpost
So you're saying that I can't buy buds for 25?
"Either way I'm never using this website because I see a ton of people selling buds for 25 on outpost."
You just caught it on a bad streak. It is almost always accurate and reliable until something like this happens. When it gets back to normal we'll see how it turns out. It's actually more accurate than any outpost links when it's working.
It's easy to sell at 25 keys, but people on outpost still sell them for 28.
I saw some guy selling at 35 keys, jesus christ.
Yeah, I've sold about 10 @ 25.33 over the last few days.
Downvote. They are still selling for 26 or more.
So? They also sell at 24 buds more often
Hahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahaha.
NO
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6439198
AWWWW so cute, all the 26 offers denied, even the 25 at the end AWWWWW
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6417649
AWWWWWW would you look at that "added" hmmm wow.
OH nice offer "T0lsty | Press F10"
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4338179
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6317717
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6971418
Here's another 24 key sale
Those aren't sales; they are buyers with no bites.
No bites at 24, that is.
Did you even look at the links/comments
You seriously didn't even look at the comments where people are asking for 25 and saying "added"
You seriously didn't even read what I said. Up above you said that they sell for 24 regularly. I don't know about anyone else, but after you were laughed at for that, I assumed that you would try to prove otherwise. You've given evidence of 25. I'm not disputing the 25! I'm disputing the claim of 24!
To conclude... there's a lot of sellers wanting 25 keys for their buds on outpost. Lazy people will quick-buy at 26
Can i get some recent links from you sir?
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7282793
upvote
Lol nice find, even though some people can sell for 26 RARELY, others buy for 24 more often.
I have to say that I have been seeing more sellers pricing their buds at 25 keys.
But I saw a couple of trades where people have bought at more than 25 keys e.g. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7137835 (someone bought at 26).
Current range is fine at the moment.
http://tf2finance.com/
Median is still at 25.5. Current range is fine. Downvoted.
I'm pretty sure its broken and not changing.
27 would be fair. I mean,they change price of buds every day anyways
I really don't understand what you're trying to say here, sorry but they aren't 27 keys.
You can easily buy for 25 keys right now. I had a post up for 20 mins yesterday (buying for 25 keys) and got 2 sellers.
Bought 2 buds in under half and hour and got an add for a third (didnt have enough), upvoted (for 25 keys)
Sold 3 or 4 buds today for 25.5 keys with out any problems.
Once again there are some people that buy for 26, and some that buy for 24, yet the community agrees to 25.
the community doesn't agree to 25. Most people want 26, or at least 25.5. I sold one for 25 + a clean anger
"I made this trade http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7365896 and found a buyer on the 1st bump." Thanks for your opinion followed by proof, oh wait, nvm you don't have any.
ehhh is it really worth suggesting this change?
upvoting anyway because evidence is sound.
The current range encompasses the market better. It's pretty easy selling buds for 26 keys. I've sold 4 in the last 2 days. It's also equally easy finding buying for 25. Got 2 sellers in a matter of hours selling for 25 keys. Either way, downvote. This would suggest that buds can't be sold at 26 keys, something that is not true
But they can also be bought at 24
I'd like to see some evidence of people who succesfully are buying for 24. I've looked through trades of people trying to buy for 24, their bps: all keys, no buds. It's much easier to sell for 26 than buy for 24. If you can show some evidence of people buying for 24, then I'd think about it.
The price isn't 24 keys, it's 25. Can you show me some evidence of people selling for 26?
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7085499 -- 23 keys (look at MageLeif's comment)
Just to give you an idea that these prices (23,24,26) are rare.
First of all all, your suggestion already falls in the current range. Second of all, your suggestion is low, to pro26 keys would be on the on the high end, meaning it's unusual to see them selling for that price. 24 keys would be on the low end, meaning it's unusual to see them being bought at that price. Let's put this into perspective. How many people have successfully bought for 24 recently? Almost none, any trades trying to buy buds for 24 are desolate wastelands. How many people have sold for 26?
These: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6998223
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7047739
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7199261
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7122073
If your suggestion were to be accepted, it would suggest that 26 keys is a price higher than people are actually paying. Something that is not true, because they are still being sold for 26 regularly. The current range is much more accurate. The only reason this is getting upvoted is out of self-interest. Just because there's a red arrow next to the price suggestion for Buds on this site doesn't mean Buds are constantly going down. Enjoy your downvote.
Btw, I'm gonna link you the trades of 3 Buds I sold for 26 in the last 2 days alone. If you have doubts check my inventory history.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7174529
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7211159
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7225172
None of these links prove anything. I see a couple sales from LAST week, and people claiming to buy them after they get their keys somehow after christmas, these links don't prove anything.
What does any of your links mean, you have no recent buys.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7225172 -- What is this? Your attempt to sell it and fail?
The only link you have that's accurate is the one where someone wants to buy the earbud for "23 keys + 8.33 ref" And that's not even 26. Thank you for pointless spam links. They help me show that it was 26 keys last week.
Thank you for the pricing expertise you're giving me. Now go look at all the 25 buys/sells on tf2outpost. Thank you for voting on your opinion instead of the facts.
What do you mean I have no recent buys? Are you just trying to get out of this by lying about the links because you know most of the people on this site are too stupid to actually click and check them? I've sold 3 in 2 days at 26 keys. This isn't the first time you do this, in the past links you posted a supposed "seller" at 24 keys who was only an unsuccesful buyer. All you're doing is posting people trying to buy buds for low, which is common, and then claiming that they should go down. Nobody likes liars, especially those who are bad at it. You should probably get out before people actually look into your supposed 'evidence'.
Thank you for flaming at me. If I posted links, they're for everyone to look at, on the other hand, you obviously don't.
PSA:
[url]http://tf2finance.com[/url] has stopped working and is not currently tracking buds or keys for the past 12-24 hours or so.
I was wondering minutes ago what happened, all I see is a blank space instead of the usual chart.
I can't figure out why anyone would flag your comment. It's weird.
It's just one and single flag, doesn't bother me much to be honest, specially when there is absolutely no reason behind it as you said. Who knows what this guy will accomplish doing that.
Liked your comment to undo unreasonable flag
Is a hero.
Thanks!
buds are crashing right now, have seen so man posted at 25 i came here to suggest this very adjustment. upvote
link 1 someone offered 25 keys and 2 ref
Guy selling 3 pairs of buds for 25 each. (along with a max head for 45)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7275617
I have enough proof, thanks for the response though.
Very hard to sell for 25keys, all 25key buyers get instantly added as soon as they put up their trade. I was lucky to get 22keys+11ref(~25.3keys) for my bud.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
well this comment was a waist of a quicksell
This page isnt the only pricecheck...spreadsheet is one too,they often have diff. prices
Yeah but spreadsheet just copies off other price checkers. Comment isn't really related to the vote, so I don't know what you mean, sorry.
I bought 2 at 25 and 1 at 24
Gotta love the "PEPUL R NO BUY 4 24KEY DEY BUY 26!!!!" when you just did haha. Thank you for the sharing your buy!
at first i thought of downvote...then I relized TF2 finnance is down xD upvote from me!
25 - 26 is more accurate, they´r at 25.48 in tf2 finnance. Downvoted.
would agree but I believ TF2 finance is down :|
which sucks...
Working for me just fine, looking at it right now :P
It is down, the site isn't updating for a few days now.
Thank you for voting correctly, having never even looked at any links provided.
These were a couple quicksales and as such were sold immediately. 98% of bud sales right now are 26-28 keys. Easy downvote.
Just bought 2 Buds within half an hour for 25 keys. Upvoted.
someone just paid me 25 keys and a clean anger for one, so downvote. cause range.
Is tf2finance broken? Not updating prices.
yup it's broken
I realize there's going to be sellers who don't want the price to drop and have to downvote and flag everything for their personal benefit.
Just like there are buyers who do want it to go down and have to upvote and like everything for their personal benefit.
I see you have earbuds in your inventory; thank you for flagging my comments. Sorry if you're going to lose 1.55 refined, go do the research I could get an earbud for 25 keys easy (non-duped, non-gifted).
So anyone that has buds in their inventory should agree with you, or just not say anything at all? Are you that dense, so according to you, the only people that should be able to voice their arguments are people that can't afford these items. Let the governance by the F2Ps commence. I'm sorry that you can't just lower the price of Buds on a whim. I'm also sorry that your evidence is misleading, and that you apparently don't have the self esteem to withstand criticism.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5788969 (24)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7274645 (25)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6317717 (25)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7157374 (24.5)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7380867 (25)
All of them bought/sold.
If you would kindly look at the first link. Yeah, there does appear to be quite a lot of activity. Even though most were a week ago. But wait, it appears that none of those people actually sold it to him. You see the last time he had buds in his backpack was the eighteenth and those buds didn't come from anyone on his trade. Even the most recent person to comment on his trade didn't sell it to him. The thing is, why didn't they? Did they change their minds? Or did they find better buyers? The other links are solid enough, except the person who said "24 keys + 1.66" didn't sell it to him either. We can speculate why these people didn't go through with it. But in the end, they didn't sell to these buyers looking for 24. Making those 2 links, irrelevant. Null and void.
There are over 100000 buds in existence, blame all the people who own them on flagging your comments. (I did so, because I didn't have much trouble selling them at 26, and you calling that *quickbuying* is just bullshit. More like 25 is quickselling.)
Thanks for your support. People that lack evidence tend to attack the person instead of pushing on with their argument. I think he's just getting desperate. He's now claiming to have seen numerous sales for 24 keys. The evidence has still not been posted.
I just despise the recent price suggestion trends.
1. Search outpost for lowest trades for certain item. ( bonus points if it's obvious for profit trade such as [keys] -> [underpriced high value items] )
2. Claim 'added' or closed trades as proof.
3. Disregard 99% of other open trades and push your suggestion anyway, because obviously that's now the price.
I've been recently selling my SF Sticky @ OP, I even wrote in the description that I'm *QUICKSELLING* it (and really it sold quickly), because I needed keys urgently and yet it ended up as a first link for the suggested new price for the item, seriously, that's biased and stupid.
i bought 2 buds at 26 keys
First, backpack private. Second, you can buy them for 28 keys, if you want to waste your money.
Has anyone heard of tf2wh here? buds sell to the wh for 26.2 keys.... yet no buds in the wh..... hmmm
TF2WH will also buy your Buds for the equivalent of 20 keys. That's how WH works - buy way low, sell just high.
no.... you obviously didn't read my post or understand the concept of the wh.
WH BUYS FOR 26.2 SELLS 26.5 ish maybe
So I went on WH and did some math:
If you were to sell your keys to WH so you could save up for WH's Buds price, you'd need to sell 28 keys minimum.
If you sell your Buds to WH then bought all the keys you could, you'd get 25 keys max.
buds = ~289k cr
Keys = ~11k cr
289/11
26.27 math done right there..... for all to see. even those to lazy to realize manipulating the prices of items just destabilizes the economy. look at oil prices in the U.S stock market
Your "math" really shows how you can buy for 24 keys if you wait, and can also sell for 26 keys if you wait. There's stupid people that will buy/sell for those prices.
Just because you see some people selling for that price doesn't mean everyone is..
I say it should be kept at 26-27 range.
Where'd you get 27?
Honestly, i think it should be 24, cause my friends bought 3 at the price of 24 yesterday, plus there are a lot of people buying for 24 keys on tf2tp and outpost and believe or not, they get quite a lot of offers!
I know but, people can easy buy/sell at 25. Some people are lucky and sell for 26 some are lucky and buy for 24, and that goes for you "I SULD 4 26 KEY DUNVOTD." Look at others who buy for 24 luckily too.
Sold one for 26 keys. Downvote.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7326247
This trade likely holds the record for most votes ever... O_o
nope last accepted key vote had like 989 or something :|
Downvote for me.
I bought some for 25 after about an hour. Sold for 26 after 2 days. Seems harder to sell at this price but certainly still possible.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7276398
Eh, easy to sell at 25, but you can still sell at 26. No need for a change in my opinion.
I bought buds for 25 within an hour of searching, sold for them for 26 after about 30 minutes.
Your price is in the price range so is kinda unnecessary. Downvote.
Not really, people are buying idiotically for 26. I should have made it 24-25 since you can buy them for 24 and sell for 25 but it takes some time to sell it.
You're serious? You're saying you can buy for 24 keys? That's idiotic. Please supply evidence. And it better not be like last time where your 'evidence' was buyers trying and failing to buy for 24.
Posted some new links, and I don't post trades where people fail to buy. You're not giving me any evidence that i'm doing this. All evidence I use is real, it's ok, you can be mad and flag every comment proving my vote, I understand you don't want your backpack to drop $.50, sorry.
It's ok you have to boost your self-esteem by attacking people personally. Let's see how your links hold up. ;D
Lol wut? Just stop
How about someone makes a suggestion of 24-26 keys so we can just end this nonsense.
Downvote, still selling on 12/25 at 25-26 keys (sold for 25 pure and 1 clean anger)
http://i.imgur.com/8e6YI.png
http://i.imgur.com/ET4lV.png
current range is good
[size=small]also, tf2finance[/size]
So you sold 1 and brag about it in every response comment? Cool. I wish i had some keys to get them for 24 keys
Who'd want some gifted buds for 24 keys? You can get them for cheaper.
Gifted? Show me proof I used gifted earbuds as evidence.
Sarcasm, how do work?
it do work no on internet.
have you ever owned earbuds? or do you just like to submit inaccurate price changes on items you dream about?
it seems like there's plenty of people here buying @ 25, and selling for over 25 keys, meaning the range is accurate.
I made this trade http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7365896 and found a buyer on the 1st bump
Upvote
Sold 4 today almost instantly for 25 keys 2 ref each. Cheapest price on outpost.
I put a pair up for 25 after I bought it for 24.
Sold it one minute, literally got a fr right after I put up the trade.
Thanks for sharing, sorry i've been gone for a day.
Think the conclusion here is that they fly off the shelves @ 25. it's a bit too early for 25 flat
Flag this, but I'm pretty sure everybody involved in the TF2 economy are as mentally mature as 12 year old's fighting over the value of a baseball card.
Also, everybody with buds in their pack downvoted, everybody without buds in their pack upvoted. Jus' sayin'.
Hey do you see "fancypants" I'm using him as an example because he bought earbuds, YET he still up-voted. Just wanted to let you know that.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7387106
Literally within 4 minutes I posted for 26 keys it got bought, the current range is fine.