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Links are pretty new post.
And, any proof of anyone buying at that price range?
someone offered 15 keys and someone has b/o of 16 keys. It proofs his range pretty well
offer and proof of sale is different, right?
and yes, current price need a change. definitely agree with that.
They certainly do show that the current suggested value is no longer valid.
agree current price need a change.
Guy selling it for 16 sold it, provide me with a bit more evidence and you'll have my vote.
If the guy selling it for 16 sold it, that shows there are buyers and sellers at 16 keys, isn't that enough proof?
upvote, enough evidence for me.
even one of them with 17 keys b/o sold it.
and most people with buyouts like 20 keys/25 keys haven't got any offers on their trades since a day
here is a person buying for 17 keys -
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7355924.
got offered 45 ref recently - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7320063
16-17 seems good. Why the 15 key lower price?
because people did offer 15 keys like the above guy is buying for around 15 keys (45 ref)
here he bought for 15 -
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7304573
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7339161 Claims to have 15k C/O
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7163846 Got offered one for 15k, but it got sold to someone else
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7230201 buying for 17
15 is definitely a quicksell price. I'd be more comfortable listing 16-17
third one has c/o of 17 but isnt buying for that
go make a little search on outpost and go on trade servers
i have already done so, and hence this post.
if u want to downvote u can do it peacefully, no need to get excited because u own it..
even if i didnt own it i would say the same thing i said
you dont own it thats why you want the price to go down
"facepalm"
classic comment when you dont have anything to say
will u stop posting nonsense and just show some proof from outpost, proving that its being 'sold' for that price and not just those buyouts.
You have one. You have a history of trying to raise the value of your items.
[url]http://backpack.tf/vote/id/50d4b6c8ba25361e0c000002[/url]
[url]http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5071c4c849d7b88575000000[/url]
Ive seen too many c/os of higher then your price range (especially in unusual offers)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7251660 (21 keys in items)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7251660 (claims to have sold one for bubbling bicorne and possible fetti little buddy C/O)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7174777 (C/O orbiting fire Shooter’s Sola Topi)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7161954 (offered 4 strange widowmakers/claims to have been given a way high offer in his C/O)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7177641 (offered stormy storm coupe disaster and claims to have been offered a bubble officers ushanka)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7212823 (offered orbiting fire gym rat)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7266923 (offered about 22 keys)
I am new to this so people please tell me if my research is off
what i can say is -
1. mostly there is one guy named BigMacINeedADoubleCheeseBuerg trying to collect sf huntsmans, he has offered 22 keys in sooooo many items.
2. 4 strange widowmaker offer was also by him but 4 days ago. things were different then (newly released).
3. most unusuals offered are cancer heavy unusuals. hard sell.
4. that guy who claims a bud offered on server posted trade 4 days ago. sf huntsmans were bit new then.
^^
I mean, Im just saying there is a range between our highs and lows and the price doesnt need to be touched because we have a lot of numbers still flying around.
i disagree. your trades are older.
here is more proof
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7357705
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7362431
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7337795
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7329470
link two only has 1 festive bow that he very easily could have gotten from his unboxing
link four hasnt taken everything and I can find more proof for my high trades and Im just showing the need for a spread
my point on link two is that there is no definitive proof hes had a seller
in link 2 i mean to show that comment. seller is offering for 15.
and post more proof.
If you dont mind I would still like to keep this civil :)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7257923 (21 keys in items (pretty sure thats the guy from before though with another offer at around 18 keys below him both denied )
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7215841 (offered 2.8 bud hat on it and sandvich 2 days ago)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7386545 (big b/o and c/o at bottom)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7251660 (guy says hell pay b/o yesterday with unusual worth enough offered at the bottom)
The trades themselves are old but I limited myself to pretty recent offers :)
Edit: again your low is correct, we just need this big spread to encompass everything
i am sorry, was a bit carried away :)
link 2 was offered that unusual for both sf huntsman and sf sandvich though 2 days ago. but see latest offer is 15 keys in pure.
secondly, those people are offering 18 keys in so many items. who will take a pain to resell them. so they are rejected..
that handyman handle is pced at 18 keys also.
http://www.tf2pricecheck.net/Thread-PC-Orbiting-Planets-Handyman-s-Handle
but as i said these are item offers. they are bound to be higher.
another going for 15 keys -
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7391184
will search and post more.
I think we have to take backpack.tf price (17-22keys) of the handymans over another websites :)
Also, the fact that my prices are there means that the high shouldnt be lowered while the fact that your prices exist means that the low shouldn't be hired. If its ok, why do you feel like you need to lower the high when these trades do exist and circulate?
that is no answer mate taking backpack.tf price over tf2 pricecheck. that website is renowned one in unusual pricing + u are getting exact price based on recent sales.
as i said those are item offers, they are always bit higher than pure, right?
I would still bet that 21 keys in items would be fair for an 18-19 key pure (outside your range)
Also, that thread is swinging from 2 bills to a bud, so your upper edge to my upper edge :)
i didnt see any 18-19 pure in your link?
actually u got to see latest pricing, not 5 month old bud price, isnt it?
There wasn't that in pure but you questioned how much a 21 key item offer would be (I have a few links with those) and I said that 18-19 keys pure would be a fair parallel to a 21 key item offer. I am also going to relook at your link at post my rebuttal :)
Even your link is 3 months old (I think, I might be mixing up my day-month-years) and even then 18 keys is above your price range
actually u are mixing up date and time. and btw, please can we have pure offers? till now i have showed all links having pure offers. we have to set a pure price.
and i said before too its an 'item' pced at 18 keys.
and i will love to see 'recent' 21 key item offer. although as i said, who will take those offers as reselling so many items isnt easy.
I am sorry but I do have to decline you forcing a pure only rule here, item offers are legitimate and even if they are not taken, the only ones I have shown were well above your price range. (again, not trying to spark hatred, we should play sometime :), do you have any total war games)
I will continue into outpost and pull up more offers
i am not forcing any rule, and btw, i also said 3-4 times before they are bound to be higher than pure.
yes we can play and about games add me to discuss. not right place :DD
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7279662 (another item offer well above your range made 3 hours ago)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7324563 (17.5 key item offer, I can understand your rejection of this one)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7347539 (two hefty item c/os well above yours)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7340336 (non-retracted 20 key C/O)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7362076 (its late here and Im assuming its a nice big item offer but i didnt crunch the numbers)
Also, i agreed with you to be higher, I am just saying there is a point were its equivalent in pure would be higher then your range.
and to sum up this trio of comments, i will state again I am only defending the current range, not a raising of the current low or high
link 1 - another item offer well above your range made 3 hours ago, by whom? same person, i have seen 10 such links now by u, come on.
link 3 - C/O: S. Huntsman
16 keys in items!, since when is this well above my range.
link 4 - thats a good link. although that guy has already got a sf huntsman.
link 5 - i did add up that last offer, and it came around 17-18 keys in 'items'.
so on the whole u only gave 1 link showing a good offer and i have shown 10 such till now proving my point.
Sorry about those duplicates, it was late and I filtered it out the best i could but if some got through I give you my deepest apologies.
About link three (I dont know why that is his c/o when he has much better offers below it (shiniex, although admitedly only right above your range)) and only one link in that group? i have posted many others that you havent rejected through our debate
16 keys will sell incredibly fast.
prove it...
Show me a trade unsold on outpost at 16 keys. There's your proof.
Lol flag my comment because you're mad. Your salty tears will be cherished, thank you. Second link sold for 17 keys. Derp.
I see them go on r/tf2trade for 17 keys pure.
In a Way There are people Offering In Items Around 22ish. So It Would be a Correct Decision if the price is around 18 - 22 Not 16.
prove it...
My Trade Outpost... First Offer 18 Then 20 Then 22. So Yeah
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7358688 - this one i hope u are talking about, already this guys offer has been mentioned 10 times in this thread.
other are empty -
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7364934
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7390980
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7275096
Also Check outpost. Someone Has Been offered a Clean Voodoo Juju Man ur just wrecking tf2 High Class Trading When u put Pathetic Post up like this. ( High Class ) Mean Rich People Trades. ( Over 20 Keys ) so Keep it Quiet. Go buy a SFH for 22 Keys - 26 And Stop Trying to Wreck Tf2 in Its High Class Opinion
post that trade here.
and u consider urself high class with that sf huntsman XD
... i dont only have that loser
Poor kid. :( Here, have a key. Go buy yourself a hat.
absolutely garbage i feel this is :P
honestly why make prices low, so people dont feel the need to unbox? then all us S F owners vote up the price after update? yea ok, how about we start market off legitimately.
Tf2 only market i know when new items get released they go so cheap... no where in the world does a market support such actions, but yet this tf2 market seems to get controlled by certain voters and i feel its unfair, btw i own the whole 2012 sf set and have unboxed over 70 crates.
absolutely garbage i feel is your post, i just dont understand how people neglect proofs and keep on posting such nonsense because they have an item in their bp.
i have many sf and normal festive items in my bp, infact i got so many maybe i can change the whole market if i could, only if i had the backpack.tf minions on my back, cause yall know its better odds to pay 10 keys for a 1 bud+ item versus opening 10 naughty crates yourself...
in fact i have opened and sold many festives..i have even bought sf huntsman for 19 keys when it was released.
and yes, go change the market. sitting and posting such thing on a suggestion is easier than making your suggestion accepted. go ahead. lets see.
and tbh your bp cant speak for your comments eh, i really hope you never got ripped off for 3 ref keys also haha
bp never speaks. XD
and fyi, i buy games from my items, so my bp value never remains high. so just manage your little bp, and leave.
Gameboys: Rather valuable when first released, then outdated, common and cheapness got involved. Now they're collectors' items and difficult/expensive to acquire (usually... may be cheap in a garage sale).
I could give hundreds of similar examples.
It's just a bit faster in TF2.
homewood homie is right, i dont unbox naughty cause the return looks to cheap therefore im pushed away from doing such thing like this
amen! a none minion speaks!
All items in crates drop, look at the haunted stuff from the errie crafts, most sell for about 1 ref, the fall crates, most of them are craft hat prices except a few, pyromania items are the same, you shouldn't expect to get rich off events by opening crates 5 days into the event.
funny you dont compare last years festives in your reply at all :P we all know last year prices were set at 1 ref aswell... and many folks got rich from it, and they repeating the same concept this year, im simply just stating facts
Except that this year there are way more players and a lot more people unboxing in hopes of getting "rich" on tf2. Last years strange festives were worth 4 keys by the end of smissmas.
Exactly what snazzy said, there have been a lot more people playing TF2 and a lot more unboxxing, were the strange festives from last year hit 5 keys and below? These will be doing so except a few
I don't see it. Sorry, there's actually less and less players each year, and far less unboxing. Check the Item Statistics provided by this site. According to stats.tf there is only less than 700 of these bows in the wild.
There are 1357 Strange festive scatterguns in existence, and as you said, 700 strange festive huntsmen BUT, that's only after 6 days, and there's 8 more days to go. So you can imagine there's going to be a lot more where that came from.
Also Brad has mentioned that the stats are currently about 4 days behind, we won't know the final numbers until 2-3 weeks from now
Stats.tf is not at all accurate in determining numbers for very recent items. Based on my experience, the number could be as nearly double that. Also, do you have any basis for your claims that there are less players or less unboxing? From what I heard, Pyromania brought in way more people than last year's Christmas event, and MVM brought in even more than that.
On the first day of this event, there were 6 pages of S. Festive Scatters on outpost, and 20+ (no idea if that means 21 or 200) pages of the S. Festive Huntsman. At the very least, this means that there are significantly more on the market currently.
My friend has bought 2 s.f huntsman for 16 keys each and sold both at 1 bud each.
can u please post that tf2 outpost link?
It's a fair price for now. The huntsman is way overpriced for the festive version. Voted up
I am green in backpack and i am not criticizing your suggestion. I just wonder why the current price for s f weapons is lower than that of last tear. It seems that the supply of this year's sf weapon is just about one-third of last year.
(sorry for my poor English as it is not my mother tongue)
Either not many people are unboxing this year, or the stats are slow to catch up. But according to the stats, there's less than 700 of these in the wild.
The price on these is dropping right now but it's going to rise up to a bud or even more next year.
link 1 sold for 17 keys
Bought one at 13 keys instantly. Upvoting
Does anyone now how long it takes for admins to decide by any chance? (not meant to sound impatient, im really just wondering) :)