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Sorry for the delay of writing ..
From the link above was my trade last night , sold 3 of SF grenade for 3 bmoc's
why? bmoc is 188K/11K at tf2wh.com (17.09) keys
i just sold bomcs there and get back grenades ,,,, won 46K :)
well today wh rised the grenade so not accept bmoc for it anymore lol
anyway this trade mean it was successfully 3 times @ 16-17 keys
lets now see the buyers
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7681848 2 crate 4 for 1 nade (15 keys fail )
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7173848 offering 15 keys pure fail
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7678074 successful buyer @ 17
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7217677 rejected 16 keys from ilhoudne's post was hidden by the owner of the trade.
16 keys?
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7351764 rejected Crate 40, S.F Axtinguisher, and S. Grenade Launcher ( 17 in total ) Ijōna {R.S}'
alright we don't need to search about the sellers on outpost because we'll find they asking for 20-25 keys AWWWW
lets see backpack Classified http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/1007/11/0
lowest and only 1 priced at 16 keys , 2 for 17 , 1 for 18 , others AWWW 20-27
from the all of the above searched we can see the low end 14 fail and the high end of 15 fail too , but still can find low end seller at 16 to 17 keys
are you in a hurry?!
Better post it after you got the proof ._.
Link 1: 2 Crate #40s is equal to 14-16 keys
Link 2: That is his current offer of how low someone is willing to sell to him for 15 keys. He is looking to buy for even less.
Some Counter-Proof:
15 keys (1 sold, 1 not)
15 keys (Has comment saying added, still unsold)
15 keys (unsold, has Strange Parts: Scouts Killed, and Airborne Kills)
15 keys (unsold)
15 keys (unsold)
15 keys (unsold)
15 keys (1 day old, sold)
16 keys (unsold)
16 keys (unsold)
16 keys (unsold)
16 keys (unsold)
16 keys (unsold)
16 keys (unsold)
Where is this proof of 17 key sales?
price of crate 40 : Salvaged Mann Co. Supply Crate #40 crate 7-8 keys (7.5 ec) lets say 15 ? fail
link 2 : actually just checked him backpack he doesn't even have 10 keys pure ..
I just put up a lot of links with unsold S.F. Grenade Launchers between 15-16 keys. Care to tell me where this proof of 17 keys is?
http://i.imgur.com/G8I0R.png I sold mine for 16 keys and 2.33, I was also offered an unusual worth 20keys on my old trade http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7571565
However, I easily bought one for 14keys so i'd say a good range would be 14-16
3/4 proofs of people rejecting 16 keys. (i've had a sf amby and ive been rejecting offers of 8 keys even when they were plenty of sellers at 6 keys, just cause someone rejects something doesn't mean that its worth more).
vs.
Baloo's 13 proofs of it UNSOLD @ 15-16 keys.
The proof provided leads me to believe that the current range is just fine. (if anything go to a flat 15, or 15-16, depending on how many are sold btwn 15-16.
"Liking" this statement to compensate for illiteracy.
this ? http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7678074
Unclean. I'm just saying.
From your links :
no one is 14 which is the low end now .. givme 2 sellers accepting 14 ?
most of 15's ware an old date , link 2 buyer said add , what happened? guess the seller changed his mind
other links of 16's or more are the new suggest .. i know the new price should be 15-16 i know that , but i won't to go slowly inch by inch for this
Except not. The fact that people are selling and are unsold at 15-16 keys means this suggestion is wrong. While the current price may be outdated, this suggestion is not any better. 15 keys flat might be better than this, and if you can find more evidence, then possibly 15-16 keys, but 17 keys is not happening.
Baloo , as i told you 14 is non-valid price.
1- i can't ignore that it can ""EASY"" go for tf2wh for amount of credit 168,220 : and the key credit there is 11000 , mean easy 15.29 keys which is 15-16 keys, and don't forget wh prices always cheaper 7.5-10% for all the items - now they higher in SF nade.
2- Can't ignore the buyer of 17 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7678074 Successful !
3- Can't ignore "Backpack Classified" nothing @ 15
4- Can't ignore the sellers whom rejected 15-16 pure and 17-18 in offers
13 counter proofs > 3 "supporting" proofs
Also that S.F. Festive Grenade Launcher had two Strange Parts attached: Submerged kills (not even priced yet, nor is it searchable for on outpost) and Airborne Kills (2.66-3 ref)
So it is not like he paid 17 keys pure for an exactly untouched one. Depending on how submerged kills will be valued he might have just paid around 15-16 keys.
I don't care about "un-sold" - " B/o" - "C/o" - "hold" , those mean nothing and doesn't make any since ..
I want "Successful" trade , "TODAY"
@ 14 keys : NOTHING FOUND
44 pieces sold "Successful" @ tfwh for 15.29
one "Successful" we don't know 17-18-20 ? lowest 17 ? cut 2 keys for parts mean 15
"Rejected" 16 pure
"Rejected" 17-18 in offer
"I would really suggestion you close this and resubmit with 15 keys flat or 15-16 keys" & "I have an incentive to want to see them rise, but I want to see it done correctly"
well , if the price is 15-16, are you going "Seriously" to sell them for 15.5 ?
Baloo answered my question : 15.5 no ..
NEW Classified lower seller :
♔ Baloo ♔
Posted 12 minutes ago Strange Festive Grenade Launcher · Level 1 16 keys
LOL
"Why do you keep deliberately ignoring the attached parts for that one?"
1- 90% of the buyers not paying fees for parts or maybe 1 ref extra if it's good parts.
2- would u like to buy strange ambassador for 7 keys because it has high value parts headshot + etc ?
3- the parts which installed on it not really useful with the grenade
I understand 14 keys is too low, but 17 keys is too high. That is the point I am trying to make. When there are plenty of buyouts below your suggested price, then that means that you have gone to high in setting your price. I would really suggestion you close this and resubmit with 15 keys flat or 15-16 keys if you can gather more evidence to support it. I currently have two S.F. Grenade Launchers in my backpack, so I have an incentive to want to see them rise, but I want to see it done correctly.
Feel free to buy it if you'd like. If you notice I am not the lowest seller. The one selling for 49 refined is less than me. Using current key prices of 3.11-3.33 ref, he is selling for 15.75-14.7 keys respective to key to metal prices.
Why do you keep deliberately ignoring the attached parts for that one?
2 crate 40's is 15 keys.
And people can ask whatever they want. Unless you can show proof that RIGHT NOW they sell for 16-17 keys, i'm gonna downvote.
you can devote as you like , but i can't ignore "backpack Classifieds" which they are the lowest in all of the other trade sites, no one accept 15
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7678074 what about this ! 4 hours ago the buyer accept it for 17-18-20 ?
So show me some proof of people not accepting 15 and SUCCESSFULLY selling for 16-17.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7217677 rejected 16 keys from ilhoudne's post was hidden by the owner of the trade.
16 keys?
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7351764 rejected Crate 40, S.F Axtinguisher, and S. Grenade Launcher ( 17 in total ) Ijōna {R.S}'
"So show me some proof of people not accepting 15"
"(i've had a sf amby and ive been rejecting offers of 8 keys even when they were plenty of sellers at 6 keys, just cause someone rejects something doesn't mean that its worth more)"
so ... you rejecting the current prices and you asked for peoples rejecting the current price as proof then now you changed your mind of the peoples whom rejecting current prices is not proof ... what should i say for you? FIX YOUR MIND
Does anyone else think that if 16-17 keys was accurate then that one in the classifieds for 16 keys would be gone by now (rather than sitting there for 20 hours)? I'm just saying. Surely someone would have taken it for an easy key profit if 17 was happening already.
Or you could look at my proof and see plenty of sellers of 15-16 keys.
Omnomnom... I ate all the ham... er, proof
No.
I think it is a fair price......I'm selling 2 strange grenade launchers for 18 keys, but until now i received so many offers (17 keys).....18, until now.....none
Can you please proof that you received some offers @ 17 keys ? so i can add it with my links
I found a link to his trade: click me I see no offers of 17 keys though.
He was also selling two other ones two days ago. One for 16 keys and one for 15 keys
After those were sold he went and bought another one for 13 keys which is the one he is now trying to sell for 18 keys.
Good that you found his link , i saw best offers
- S. Gold BK Minigun MK.II + S. GL + 2 keys? ( total 15-16 )
- reddiepal's 15 keys
well not really 18 lire lol, but still 15-16
Also see many untouched 16+ keys sellers, even 15 keys. The last increase isn`t a day old. Downvote
Meh, I bought one for a white bill's last night.
doesn't matter if someone lucky to find cheap thing , i got ear buds for 17 keys some days ago :)
I don't consider it lucky. People will beg you to buy them at 15. WH is jammed full of these. I think 10 keys is actually the right price for these, though people will pay more.
LOL @ "I think"
"I think" if you able to provide some to sell for 10 keys please add me i'll buy Directly in 1 second
lol @ your price suggestion, as one can just go to the warehouse and get one cheaper than 17 keys (and they are 100% full, meaning the actual price is lower).
Also, I see you are trying to highball your grenade launcher on tf2outpost. Here is your trade:
From 2 years ago , only the grenade was and still stick higher of any other strange value
Strange grenade was 7-8 keys when all other strange's was 0.5-2 keys each
I don't know why the Dumbs selling it for 16 keys ? it should be 2 buds at least .. and i saw there is many sellers already asking for a bud , however ...
only one of 2 things will be accepted for it:
1- B.M.O.C
2- 2 x bills
Have no need of anything esle unless u paying buds ?!!
If you want to highball, fine, but your highballing wishes do not make the market price, sir.
that is an old trade , done , and closed before the suggest , read what i wrote above about the link before to comment please
15-16 seems to be the more accurate range at this moment, 14 doesn't seem to be happening
check Baloo links of 15-16 : most of them are done successfully in the previous 10 hours and tomorrow 16 will be a bit hard to find sellers , this why i jumped to 16-17 instead of doing 3 or 4 vote suggests within 2 days . thanks for been understanding
that's not how it works mate
link 2 someone offered 15 keys for there grenade launcher
well link 2 is an old date and that 15 happened while the price was 13-14
also both of seller and buyer now no grenade or keys .. just ignore them it's my bad to include it without checking them backpack's .
I keep looking for proof of 17 key sales, but all I see are evasive responses to people's requests for proof.
before 11 hours guys wasn't accepting 15 , before 5 hours they accepted it and looking for proof on 16 , now seems you accepting 16 and looking for proof on 17 , next 48 hours we'll find proof on 18 or 19 ... hope you can understand that i won't rise it slowly & i won't let it rise more than 17 - thanks for been understanding
What? I'm just going to quote the person above.
"I keep looking for proof of 17 key sales, but all I see are evasive responses to people's requests for proof."
You did it again, you did.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, but this person is almost certainly foreign, so I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt in that maybe he/she didn't understand what I said haha.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7633306
Sixteen.
stats.tf shows once again to be delayed, the number of stranges just keep raising, and just one link isn't enough about all the things I'm reading in this suggestion, also you own one with just one kill, gee, guess someone wants to raise the price before selling, downvoted
Sorry, too many unsold at 15-16 for 17 to be part of the price.