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For some reason, people are deciding to sell this apparently worth “1 bud” item for less. Quite a few actually. So, I believed a price adjustment was in order.
Alright, let’s start this off.
Selling/Sold For 25/~25 Keys
Link 1: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7889704
- The seller sold this item for 25 straight keys and he was able to get a buyer. The last time I looked at this link was last night and was up for at least a day. Sometime from last night (before I slept) until now, it was sold.
Link 2: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7774550
- This seller has a B/O at 25 keys/1 bud. That is still 25 keys as the lower offer and people would be pretty dumb for paying the bud instead. The seller sold this for the 25 keys as we see the keys in his backpack, the missing crate 30, and the item is under a new owner if you look at its history.
Link 3: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7779931
- Alright, this one took a bit of actual looking around. This trade has been up for a week and the 25 key offerer (kHEAVY) hid his offer. BUT! If you look further down at the conversation between KarlMarx and the seller, the seller says, “only looking for large amount of craft/misc if you can sell that for 25 keys pure I can do that.” From this, we see that the seller is accepting 25 keys for the Salvaged Crate #30. So, this is the third person who is willing to accept 25 keys for the crate.
Link 4: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6985493
- In this trade, there ARE people who paid a bud for this crate. But wait… That was 2 weeks ago… Well then… That is a bit old.
- No fear though, if you look at the last offer though, he accepts the 86 refined offered by Nandoez Chicken. 86 refined translates to 25 keys (if buys keys for 3.44 refined each)– 25.83 keys (if buys keys for 3.33 refined each). It is slightly hard to find people on trade servers selling keys for 3.33 refined each. There are times when you can buy them for 3.33 refined easily, but there are times when you can go for an hour and no one will sell you one. I am starting to think that 3.44 refined seems like the price for keys… Ugh…
Unsold For 26 Keys And Up (Slightly Out Of Order)
Link 5: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7867282
- The seller is asking for a bud straight for the crate. It has been three days and not even an offer for this item. The item is still in the seller’s possession through the history and from checking through their backpack. Unsold at 1 bud.
Link 6: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7932778
- The seller closed this trade, but it was up for a while last night and no one wanted it. 26.3 keys is actually under the bud price on TF2 Finance, so why wasn’t it taken? People must want to maximize profits. What a surprise. xD
Link 7: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7934229
- This is the same seller from Link 6. He changed his mind and made the price 27 keys. 13 hours later and not even a comment or offer. No interest I guess and I guess you can slightly use the excuse “it’s too new.” Still, it’s supposed to be worth a bud and no one wants it? Come on. :P
Link 8: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7809715
- The seller is trying to sell for 26 keys and there isn’t much success. Then again, this seller is a F2P from his backpack space. Still. No one is telling him, “dude, you’re F2P, buy something from the store and we can trade.”
Link 9: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7625927
- This link is by the same guy from Link 8. He relisted and even on that one, no one is commenting to get him to leave the F2P world.
Link 10: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7756287
- This seller is actually looking for offers and not one person is even offering 25 keys for it. Huh… Weird… He still owns them all.
Link 11: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7930650
- An offerer actually offered 25 keys for one of the seller’s crates. Personally, I think he should have taken it. Selling it for a bud/26 -27 keys is looking pretty grim.
Link 12: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7903236
- The seller is trying to sell it for 27 keys and it isn’t getting any nibbles. The trade is 2 days old and nothing except offers that don’t exactly amount to 1 bud/27 keys.
Link 13: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7852431
- The seller still has all his crates. He wants a bud each and nothing once again. The trade is 4 days old.
Afterthoughts:
I think it is kind of safe to say that this item isn’t exactly worth a bud… It might be when Salvaged Crate #50 comes along, but who knows. Personally, I don’t believe it will. I understand the Crate going up when #40 came out since it meant that #30 wasn’t going to be dropped anymore. What does #50 coming out have to do with #30? #30 already stopped dropping; it isn’t like it will stop dropping twice. I can only foresee #40 going up and just #40.
#30 might be rarer? How? The only way for Crate #30 getting rarer is for them to be opened more and more until less and less exist. That is probably the only way the crate will go up, but even then… eh…
But yes, I believe that 25 keys is probably a steady price that crate #30 should be through what I have seen from trades. I would have put up buyers buying these, but those are harder to find, because peoples’ “wanted” items ALWAYS contain some sort of Salvaged. That is too much work for me and I think I have enough proof to help suggest this new price.
Thank you for reading and tell me if you agree or disagree below. Don’t just vote and not leave a comment, I kind of want feedback. :P
That's a lot of writing, that admittedly I wont read, but if you were to put this much time into something, I'm assuming you've done the research.
who flagged this guy lol^
not me, I can tell u dat
Seriously... I was saying that he put a lot of work into it... and that I trusted his judgement. It's not I'm blinding voting, I looked at all of his links...
no more im good how are u?
troll among us....
I did, for the reason Seph stated. Blindly upvoting shouldn't be encouraged
I didn't blindly up vote you derp! I never said I did. Shame on your for drawing that conclusion.
I looked at every link bro.
I'm glad I was wrong
I would rather you actually read and think about it before just blindly voting (even if in my favor).
That is why I believe this voting system is slightly flawed.
If enough people own the item being dropped/raised in price, they could effect the suggestion through bias. Maybe 100 people don't want their item to drop by a key or the 100 want their item to raise by a key. This system requires people to be honest and actually vote on what others are doing within the community. And let's face it, a lot of people who trade are not honest and are not innocent of voting properly.
Also, people tend to upvote and downvote if majority of people below say those words somewhere in the comments. They vote for free reputation and that is a flaw as well.
I could go on, but I won't. I had enough with typing. xD
Kind of making me want to close this suggestion from people actually not reading it and blindly voting... That is not how this system is supposed to work... >_
Im reading it, but is a lot so its taking time. Calm down :P
naw dont close it, just based on the amount of work^, I looked through the links and everything checks out soo
The reason why I tend not to read people's proof, is because in the end, I base my opinion off of everyones comment.
In the end, the suggestion is as the will of the admin who is assigned to it.
And I'm not just blinding voting. Blind voting would me just seeing this suggestion on the voting page and saying; "I think this price is okay" and upvoting.
I made my judgement based on the time and work put into the research, which is evident by the amount of text you have laid out.
2 much reading and Im lazy.. Downvote!!! Nah jk checked every link and very nice proov. Upvote :P
That's a lot of writing lol. Guessing its all right. Upvote.
this drop may have been caused by the mackerel plummet.
That's what he is referring to.
Looks like a bunch of crate 30 hoarders are flagging everything x)
Sadly, I think those will be the people who give me downvotes. -.-
I agree with you that some people are taking advantage of their items Ex: Ones I saw someone in outpost buying a S. festive sandvich for 3 ref (troll). And Im really glad that you are doing this as a honest person cause few people are doing suggestions with that intention. Not because it benefits them or not.
Lol with all the flagging. Bunch of mad crate #30 hoarders denying factual researches.
I'd have to agree on this. Defiantly not selling for a bud direct.
I tried to sell 5 #30's for 26 keys for the past 2 months and didnt get ANY offer above 23 keys.