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There was absolutely no proof to justify the 2.5 range 2 weeks ago, and surprisingly there isn't any proof for it now. B/O s are set around 2.25, and get offers that nearly hit there occasionally. Most offers are 2 buds pure or a little less.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6441003 offer of 2.33 highest offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7423734 offer of 2.075 (ignoring guy above who spammed all the trades)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8301520 2.26 B/O, assuming he changed his B/O down to that after receiving that offer as his highest from the person who spammed all the trades.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6545844 2.00 pure, highest offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7722835 2.00 pure, highest offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8018814 2.00 pure, highest offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8018814 2.19 highest offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7375740 2.00 pure, highest offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7375740 2.11, highest offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8290639 2.19, highest offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6049478 2.07, highest offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6441003 2+ sweets, highest offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8215343 2.00, highest offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8126384 2.4 B/O, no offers in a week
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8126384 2.00, highest offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6570955 2.37, highest offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8189590 2.11, highest offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8186683 2.04, highest offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4652108 2.00, highest offer
Perhaps the biggest piece of evidence came from the last suggestion which seems to have been accidentally accepted. http://puu.sh/1QJa6
im going neutral
God forbid you make a decision on anything, when you have every single trade on outpost as evidence right in front of you. That might mean taking a risk and losing your shot at being on the most accurate list in 12 votes. =O
12votes? I don't care for votes, only here to make sure that things are in order and you couldn't even tell the sarcasm of my neutraility...seriously tho i had upvoted when i said that so let's just have a good day :3
To be fair, the internet is not the best place for sarcasm. You can't exactly read pitch and context from 3 words, not to mention I know nothing about you. It's whatever though. Congrats on being so accurate.
fair enough
good proof upvote
My suggestion a few weeks back was a bit unclear on the high range, this is fine, I've upvoted, shame on you if you haven't.
i can see that in a couple that its a b/o for 2.25 but the others u say are just offers
I actually didn't find very many with useful B/Os that wouldn't confuse my proof. Most of the people selling these things act like thugs on Outpost and say "love this thing, you're gonna have to overpay to get it, no buyout, part of a set...". So I just decided to focus almost entirely on the offers, unless their buyout was under the current high range.
aight ok then
Wait, you're openly admitting to wholesale cherry-picking of your data points? Well... props for honesty, I suppose.
Funny thing about the last suggestion
http://puu.sh/1WnCS
Yeah, I had included that as my closing statement. The fact that the admins here make mistakes is understandable, but then they just ignore them. That's ridiculous.
I was going to post about it but i forgot lol
Good proof.
Upvoting
All that proof is just people offering and people offering will never want to pay full price, find some actually selling for lower not just people offering lower
That's a really asinine misconception. Who are you to assume that your items are more valuable than what people are willing to pay? In fact, if you leave a trade open for a while (some of the links above were left open for 3-4 months) you'll often receive offers of 10-25% over market price. I think I was more than generous with the upper range on this.
"Who are you to assume that your items are more valuable than what people are willing to pay?"
It goes both ways. There's a reason why using offers to justify a price drop and using B/Os to justify a price rise is frowned upon - it's manipulative and doesn't reflect actual sale prices.
Of the two B/Os you listed, one is in the middle of the current range and the other is towards the top end of it. Of all the offers you listed, they all fall between the low-end to middle of the current range. Not only have you failed to present any data to justify a change in the range but by listing 17 offers (which shockingly fall towards the low end) and only 2 B/Os (which shockingly tend towards the high-end), you've presented facile and misleadingly lop-sided data.
Show us some B/Os of 2.2 or evidence of actual sales towards the low-end and I'll change my vote. Until then, I'm downvoting.
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/50fb1cb6ba2536e20c000001 --It's funny just how it accepted, +UP
Sold one for 60, though it's taking me quite a while to sell my second one for the same price.
I made the last suggestion, and my 2.5 range was a bit high. This is fine.