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this site fails at unusuals
So you have a 24 keys offer that is tentative higher which appeared right after the last suggestion was accepted (which was conservative btw). So not the fault of the site.
Ask him if he would pay 1 bud on it or set the high end to 24 or maybe 25.
Don't hate on the site....you're last suggestion was weak at best.
Also, "24 keys, i can maybe go higher" does NOT mean you can assume he'll go to 27, it means you can assume he'll go to 25.
P.S. Ever thought about not blaming everyone around you? blaming bp.tf for being shit, blaming the mods for not accepting your suggstion. Blaming me for proving your last suggestion wrong, and for proving your opinion about the planets cosa wrong....
1) you suck at unusuals
2) all unusual traders call this site lowball.tf for a reason
3) this site accepts lowball offers as realistic offers, devaluing unusual hats. if this site went by what the hats actually sold for, it might get some credibility
4) if someone offers 24 pure, and i paid a bud+, then the 24-27 range is legit
5) you need a life
3.) Well it was involved in a deal where it was ~16 keys or something like that. That's the reason for the actual low value.
1) i suck at unusuals, thats why ive made over 3 grand, and traded well over a hundred unusuals.
2) no, for the most part, just the sharks call it lowball.tf since they can't get as much profit (but most unusual traders are glad it exists since it prevents sharking, and most people aren't dicks and like to help others).
3) this bases unusual prices on the highest common offer, with the high end equal to the highest sale/offer (whichever is higher).
4) if 4 people offer 24 and it gets sold for 27 then 24-27 is a solid range. but thats not the case. this hat hasn't sold for 27 (or at least you dont have proof of it) And no, you paying 27 does NOT make that the price, if i bought a bud for 40 keys are buds worth 40 keys? no, im just an idiot.
5) Am i the one whos raging on the internet? (*hint* that'd be a know)
5B) I'm here to help newer trades from getting sharked, you're here to make a profit.
1) yep, you suck at unusuals
2) most unusual traders think this site is as big joke as the "sharkers" think
3) if no seller will sell for the low "common" offer, that means the hat is unobtainable for that price, again, see #1
4) i paid 27, its a 1 of 2 hat you retard, see #1
#5) yes, you re
#5bb) you clearly suck at unusual trading
Right, thats why i've made over 3 grand and dealt with well over a hundred unusuals.
And no, most unusuals traders don't actually.
Right, so lets just assume i have a 1 of 1 unusual (Secret buckaroos), and i set my buyout to 100 buds and refuse to take anything less. Guess what, i'm NEVER going to get 100 buds no matter how hard i try. You overpaid, deal with it.
And ya, i'm clearly the one raging, thats why i'm the one who bitches and complains about everyone, and refuses to take responsibility for my own stupi... O, wait, thats you. My bad.
mmhmm i suck at unusual trading because i actually trade to help people.
Rather than raging at backpack.tf and the mods and the people that use it, and well everyone other than yourself, why don't you just crawl in a hole and think really hard about what the fuck you're doing.
Haha, yea that 24 key offer wasn't there for the previous suggestion. So now we know it can get up to 24 keys. Doesn't quite reach 1 buds though, if someone does offer that much then it'll be a valid change...
lowballs != legitimate offers
THERE ARE TWO OF THESE HATS
You paid an o.planets cosa from what I saw... which is a ~1 bud in unusuals. While I agree that this hat is very rare, it is not the rarity that determines a price, it's demand. We don't want to speculate about how prices might be, because that's subject to error, so we base prices on actual sales.
so non-offers=legitimate offers.
Got it!
You know, you won't be missed if you leave this site and never come back since you dislike it so much.
We really won't miss you. At all.
That too you say this site sucks, but then you donate 10 bucks to it. And just because you paid 27 doesn't mean the price will be 28 keys, your proof sucks at the point where there is barely anything to consider at 27. Next time don't be rude on a site you have made numerous contributions on, you may not be good at making suggestions but deal with it. this is to slackware.
wheres the 27 at nowhere does the guy say hes willing to pay 3 more keys.
how much is "more"?
1 key? 2 keys? 3 keys? 10%?
more is 3 more keys where I already stated that, your saying the high end should be 27 when the guy who offered didn't offer 27 he offered 24, and you don't know how much more he is willing to pay too high 25 would be a good range since that guy offering is willing to pay more. downvote
i paid about 27
we've already gone over the fact that you overpaid. deal with it.
i paid the fair market price.
Right, the fair price as dictated by you.
do you see any cheaper?
I defer you to my comment above:
"Right, so lets just assume i have a 1 of 1 unusual (Secret buckaroos), and i set my buyout to 100 buds and refuse to take anything less. Guess what, i'm NEVER going to get 100 buds no matter how hard i try. You overpaid, deal with it. "
P.S. You HATE backpack.tf soo much yet you keep coming back...makes perfect sense...
Edit: You're clearly just beyond all hope. i'm done arguing with you.
Even if you value the cosa at 27 it's still a unusual overpay, take 2 keys from that and you have 25 pure what could be the new high end.~
27 keys is too high, no proof of it selling at that price. 24 keys should be closer to the high end and the low probably around 20 keys
there are two, the other isnt for sale, and i wont ever sell mine for 24, 22, 20 keys
Doesn't mean people are gonna pay for over 24 keys.
exactly if thats what someone offered at then you shouldn't make a suggestion thats a few more keys than whats being offered, this suggestion is also coming from someone who is saying that this site fails at unusuals. Make a more accurate suggestion with a high end of 24 or 25. You also own the unusual so make it more realistic and try not to add on a few more keys just because you own it.
there are two
Again, it doesn't matter if people aren't offering 27 keys.
Why you don't simply suggest 19-25 keys what would be a more accurate price?
High end is supported by that 24+ keys offer and your deal. Low end comes from the deal before you.