Suggestion: Vintage Bill's Hat at 49.5–55 keys

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~34.5 keys

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This suggestion was closed Tue, 12 Feb 13 05:39:00 +0000 by A Distinctive Lack of Vincent.

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Just saw couple of suggestions those days , going to update the current price with a bit bump to make it clear .

vintage bills going 1.8-1.9 buds , steam market going 1.8-2.2 , peoples using it to get higher unusual hats ..

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8101995 sold 2 @ 1.9 each

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Yes you sold your hat for an unusual worth more then 2 buds. I still don't think this needs a bump up.

I happen to be one of the 2 people who sold a V. Bills for $166.75 ($145 after steam tax) on the market and I think I just happened to get a lucky sale. The person who bought it has a bp full of high tier unusuals but very few

Trying to sell this on outpost I was getting little interest and I wasn't even asking for 2 buds.

Here is some nice counter proof.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8470113 (1 bud + 18 keys = 1.65)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8443277 (asking for 50 keys = 1.8)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8374453 (asking for 50 keys = 1.8)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8563307 (asking for 1 + 25 ~ 1.9)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8323807 (asking for 1 + 26 ~ 1.9)

You don't have to pay 2 buds for a V. Bills unless for some reason you feel like being generous. This doesn't take into account that fact that most V. Bills are painted TS/Black/White and the fact that a lot get traded for unusuals.

The Bills I got and sold on the market I'd say I payed maybe 1.1-1.2 for it probably less actually.

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Those are both circling peace sign which are valued at ~20 keys and ~1 bud here. The Luger, Tossel, Hotrod and beard just about cover the 20 keys meaning I spent just a smidge over 1 bud on the bills going strictly by backpack.tf prices.

Also if you do math on the average bills hat sale price like so:

$133 / 1.15 (steam tax) = $115

$115 / 2.25 (key price) = 51 keys

51 / 28 (bud price in keys) = 1.8

1.8 = smack dab in the middle of the current range

%100 downvote from me.

1- link 1 is quick sold , if you able to sell it easy for 1.7 that's kinda proof it's 2 buds in real : other links already in my price range so what !

2- if i got 146$ in steam , i'll get 73 keys for them not even 55 . the others sold for 133$ also easy to get 62 keys with this amount .

3- if you calling the solid for 146$ is luck , pretty i'm calling the one you bought is the REAL LUCK .

4- there is some duped bill's going for 1.6-1.7 and i'm not interesting of pricing dupes items . specially duped buds going easy 27 keys +

5- "You don't have to pay 2 buds for a V. Bills" , all what you saying that don't like it , this only your opinion not the other peoples .

1 - What? Yes it quick sold which is why it sold for less then current range.

2 - Cool story. The others didn't sell for $133 the seller only gets $115 and as you see by the power of math that's only about 51 keys on the steam market.

3 - I've edited in the photo of my trade. Both were lucky yes.

4 - "You don't have to pay 2 buds for a V. Bills" isn't opinion when there are people out there right now who are selling for less then 2 buds.

the unusual's worth's 50-55 keys , you got overpay 10 keys in offers + craps sweets so it's not really 1.1 buds as u claimed :/

also you can't say luger is 10 keys and tossle 7 keys .. sometimes luger going for 7 - tossle going for 5 ..

overpay in offers mean nothing to pricing , i sold luger for 9 keys + 5 keys in offer ,

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so the luger worth 7-15 ?

The fact that I got my Bills super cheap wasn't even the main point of my post.

I didn't say V Bills should be 1 bud. All I'm trying to say is it ain't worth 2 buds, most people don't want to pay that much and I think the vast majority sell for less.

Also that average is just so wrong. If you take the two ODD $166.75 sales out of the equation you are left with an average sale of maybe $120, then you factor in the 15% and the the cost of keys they aren't getting 55 keys for their bills.

In fact without the 2 $166 sales the average drops down to $123 which means $107 for the seller and only 47.5 keys going by key market average. which is 1.7 buds.

"I didn't say V Bills should be 1 bud."

"most people don't want to pay that much"

"Also that average is .....getting 55 keys for their bills"

"All I'm trying to say is it ain't worth 2 buds"

"most people's didn't sell for 1.8 - 2 buds."

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Dude sry to say i am neutral but saying that u should give some respect attitude towards any suggestions i been noticed it many it and eg...

Like this what u posted and in my suggestion "Ohh what so less range 26 wtf?" this is ur comment on my post have some respect i got not bad meaning for u...

Definition of respect : A feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements

Correct uses : fuck you your price is not real .

Incorrect : hay bro your price is wrong but you are nice guy so yes upvote ..

why i said "WTF" ? i told you twice of times to change your price it's wrong , you still trusting your self and ignoring peoples knowledge ..

why i'm here saying why you talking too fucking much , this guy trying to manipulating prices by using low-balls buyer trades just to make profit to himself .

i really hate to saying these words but i hating lowballers more .

Bellow 2 buds - 56 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8323807 - 1 bud + 26 keys (54)

Bellow 1.9 buds - 53.2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8563307 - 1 bud + 25 keys (53)

Bellow 1.8 buds - 50.4 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8443277 - 50 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8374453 - 50 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7678887 - 1 bud + 20 keys (48)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8409760 - 48 keys

Bellow 1.7 buds - 47.6 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8470113 - 1 bud + 18 keys (46)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8409760 - 46 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8452687 - 46 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8438682 - 1 bud + 17 keys (45)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8438682 - 1 bud + 15 keys (43)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/3337674 - 1 bud + 15 keys (43)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8220084 - 40 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/3337674 - Gifted (1 bud)

2/8 on the steam market randomly sold for $33 higher then any other v bills.

Without the two $166 sales the average sale price drops down to $123 which means $107 for the seller.

$107 converted to keys at $2.25 per key is only 47.56 keys.

47.56 keys is just below 1.7 buds aka the current low end v bills price.

nice counter proof. i downvoted the suggestion

50-55 keys in the suggestion , lets see your other links ,

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8470113 - quick sell (sold 1.7)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8452687 - quick-sell (sold 1.7)

and the whole below links (buyers [resellers] trades)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8409760 - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8438682 -

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8438682 -

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/3337674 -

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8220084 -

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/3337674 - Gifted (1 bud)

buyer trade {re-sellers}: quick buy = NOTHING

Okay then show me a recent trade where someone offers 2 buds pure on a clean non painted bills.

this counter proof kinda proved his proof, lol. hes suggesting a range of 1.8-2 buds , altough 1.75-2 sounds better

It is still possible to sell v. bills for 2 buds(sold 2 for this price in last few weeks) but it happens rarely so it doesn't affect the whole market, also it is possible to buy for less than 1.7 buds.

current range looks fine downvote

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8563307

http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440/1456110980

2 bills for an unusual with a recent price of 3.2-3.8 buds so approx. 1.6-1.9 per vbill

Downvote !!!

You CANNOT get 2 buds, if you do, you are a lucky man.