Suggestion: Vintage Ullapool Caber at 3 keys

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Vintage Ullapool Caber

Submitted Thu, 14 Feb 13 06:14:12 +0000 by ★ Grim

70.59%

2.5–3 keys

3 keys

~2.63 keys

60 votes up

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This suggestion was closed Fri, 15 Feb 13 02:41:09 +0000 by SirJjjon.

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Look what I found:

Selling for 3 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8382311 (added)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7059617 (sold 1, have 2 left and 1 add)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8595748

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8571701

Being offered 3 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7688285

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7205903 (sold)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7306699

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/3986698

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7059617

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8217157

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8621813

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8284255

Lots of ppl looking for more than 3 keys, but a flat 3 keys would be better.

i agreed with that price , many players like sticky jump+caber combination and play with that items ... so 3 keys will be fair

3 keys already in the current price , you saying it can't obtained for 2.5 anymore ,

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/307/3/0 2 for sale 2.65 keys , 4 days

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198070132571 have 2

http://bazaar.tf/trade/120814 2 keys 2.33 ref

http://www.tf2wh.com/item.php?id=307;3;dd469d5e6232b1cfb0b1e3cf6ac87581

80 stock unsold @ 2.7 keys

also the average of steam market 2.24 keys , lower than 2.5

http://backpack.tf/market

When did I say that it can't be obtained be obtained for 2.5 anymore? You never know when someone's gonna pop up with a fresh new trade, selling their caber for 2.5 keys before this gets accepted, I can't control that so please don't accuse me for saying something I never did.

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/307/3/0 only one selling for 2.65 days, hasn't been bumped. Now if you want to argue the fact that backpack.tf doesn't require 'bumping', I can also argue with you saying what if no one searched for it? Keep in mind that these vintages are not your ordinary weapon which can be sold within a day or two.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198070132571 the same guy who's selling it for 2.65 keys. So how is it relevant if he have 2 of these? He's only selling one.

http://bazaar.tf/trade/120814 Created 2 weeks ago, only FIVE views. What are the odds that out of those 5 people, one was looking for a vintage Ullapool Caber?

http://www.tf2wh.com/item.php?id=307;3;dd469d5e6232b1cfb0b1e3cf6ac87581 I just don't get it why do some ppl like to use TF2warehouse as a counter-proof. Anyway, here's an old trade suggestion of mine on the Gen. El Jefe:

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/50f02adfba25361647000000 In this suggestion, one guy told me that the gen. El Jefe is worth 9.75 keys and have 50+ stock in Warehouse. So why wasn't the price of gen. El Jefe set at 9.75 keys in bp.tf then? Why do ppl still buy and sell them for 12-13 keys?

The exact same case here, if there are plenty of stock in Warehouse, why do ppl buy them at 3 keys in Outpost? How many ppl are actually using Warehouse? and what is the average amount of users using TF2OP at the time where trades containing these vintage cabers were bumped? Can Warehouse be used as a valid proof here?

http://backpack.tf/market Same as Warehouse, I don't know why ppl use this as counter proof too. Steam Market involves REAL MONEY trade. Even if the average steam market price of this caber is 2.24 keys, do all traders spend REAL MONEY to buy these cabers? Also, then why isn't the price of these Cabers set to 2.24 keys as a low range instead?

Please provide a more legit counter-proof.

i have no time to read the whole note: first thing you said :

" When did I say that it can't be obtained be obtained for 2.5 anymore? "

since it's still possible to get lower than 3 , why you want raise it to 3 flat ?

If you have no time to read, then don't bother commenting at all because it just shows that you're ignorant.

That's what happens when you don't read, you tend to interpret things in an ignorant way. The reason why I said " When did I say that it can't be obtained be obtained for 2.5 anymore? " is because in the first place, I never said that in the comments earlier. What if someone decides to sell his caber for below 3 keys while this suggestion was still pending? I can't read every traders mind. As far as I'm concerned, outpost doesn't have any active trades which are selling vintage cabers for less than 3 keys at the time when I suggested this price. Moreover, everyone has the right to sell their items at whatever price they want. If this suggestion gets accepted and someone still insist on selling their caber for 2.5 keys, does that really change anything? I'm suggesting this price because I have proof to show that majority of the trades are dealing with this price. One trade does not represent the community.

You ask why I suggest 3 keys flat? That's also what happens when you don't read the proof.

If you have no time, I suggest you don't do any more price suggestion for this site. After all, you will have no time to go through all the trades in outpost.

bla bla bla.. you gonna raise the price , why ? no real reasons ..

and yes i don't have to wast my time for unnecessary suggestions . devote .

Lol, you already did. By wasting your time replying. Like you have a solid reason for suggesting any price. Tsk tsk, how impundent can one be nowadays.

don't try to change the subject , any reason why price should be 3 keys and no more 2.5-3 ?

unsold @ 3 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5492158 3 months

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4769765 4 months , 1 of 3 sold

unsold less than 3 keys

http://bazaar.tf/trade/120814 2 keys 2.33 ref : 15 days

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/307/3/0 2.65 keys , 4 days

http://www.tf2wh.com/item.php?id=307;3;dd469d5e6232b1cfb0b1e3cf6ac87581 2.76 keys : 80 stock

Lol, I wasn't the one who changed the subject. Says the guy who thinks this suggestion is unnecessary.

Again, I would like to stress on the point that this is what happens if you don't read.

I explained everything you need to know about your counter proof in the comments above. If you're not gonna read it, then please leave instead of making a fool out of yourself.

downvote

Unsold 3 keys (1 week): http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8382311

1 of 5 sold at bp.tf prices (1 month): http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7205903

Unsold 3 keys (2 days): http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8571701

Unsold 3 keys (2 days): http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8583965

Unsold 3 keys (3 weeks): http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8120644

Quite a few unsold for it to be the price.

Allow me to explain. There are plenty of vintage cabers selling at 3 keys and above currently in outpost. Not surprising one or two of them fail to get any buyers (also depending on the bump rate by the owner).

The first link (just to let you know you accidentally placed a search link there) might be unsold at 3 keys for a week. But you don't expect something which is priced at 3 keys to be sold very fast. You can even find strange ambassadors (price: 1 key) selling for the suggested price just sitting in outpost without a single buyer the whole week.

2nd link: We cannot assume that he sold just 1 throughout the 1 month period. He might have sold plenty but we just don't have a way of knowing that.

3rd link: same explaination as the first link. Besides, its has only been 2 days.

The reason why I suggested 3 keys flat as the price for this vintage caber is because if you search for the vintage cabers on outpost, you will notice that people are selling them for 3 keys and above. To support the price, I provided proof of ppl offering 3 keys too. Also, not many ppl place an exact price tag in their notes on outpost. Majority are looking for offers and they've so far gotten 3 keys offers (in proof).

I fixed the first and provided more proof of unsold 3 key sellers.

There are people selling for 3 keys. Nobody is denying that. 3 keys is in the current price.

Bought:

2 keys + .55: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7788383

2 keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/3959840

2 keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7658458

Mate, you're not new to this, so you should know that quickbuy trades doesn't count as proof.

About the first link, he never bought any recently (he could have bought one or 2 in the past). Check his backpack. Look through his old trades. He only has 1 vintage caber which was obtained a long time ago.

The other 2 links are just quickbuy links. Also there is no indication that they bought any recently. Link 2's had one offer 1-2 months ago.

I can start-up a quickbuy trade wanting to buy team captains at 4.55 ref (I did that before, can provide proof if you want) and have lots of ppl adding me to sell at that price. Does that mean that the price would have 4.55 ref as a low range? I don't think so.

Link 1 purchased 4 days ago. Those three are literally the highest offers on outpost right now. If 2.5 keys was no longer a reasonable price, there would be buying offers around that price that are open.

If you start a trade buying TC for 4.55 ref and lots of people add you, then yes...that is a low range.

Also, there is a V Ullapool on classifieds for 2.65 (and 3) right now.

Check again, he did not purchase it. Go through his backpack and look through his old trades. He has only one vintage caber and that wasn't obtained 4 days ago.

"If you start a trade buying TC for 4.55 ref and lots of people add you, then yes...that is a low range" - You seen anyone selling their Team Captain for 4.55 ref on outpost? If you can find one, I will suggest a price with lower range of 4.55 ref. I was merely talking about a quickbuy trade of mine. No matter what's the current price, if ppl still sell you their team captain for 4.55 ref in your quickbuy trade, it cannot in anyway considered as a low range due to it being a quickbuy. Please understand the term.

A QUICKBUY trade cannot be use as a proof because they are buying below market price. Also you said that "If 2.5 keys was no longer a reasonable price, there would be buying offers around that price that are open". 2.5 keys is still in the range at the moment, do you think anyone who's looking to buy for cheap will offer a price that is in the current range now?

about the one in the classifieds, I had explained it in the comments above, please have a look at it yourself if you wish.

outpost is suck only showing the unsold trades ,

see here the solid's within the past week :

http://www.tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9124966 2 keys + 2.77 ref

http://www.tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9112530 only 2 keys (seller not buyer )

http://www.tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9068053 2 keys + 1 ref

+ the unsold above less than 3 keys

http://bazaar.tf/trade/120814 2 keys 2.33 ref : 15 days

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/307/3/0 2.65 keys , 4 days

lol, you don't seems to get it do you? The reason why I'm suggesting this price is because you CAN'T find anyone selling below 3 keys in Outpost as of now. Why are you showing me trades that they are sold for below 3 keys? That would only strengthen my price suggestion of 3 keys, since its showing that below 3 keys is considered cheap.

And it seems that you're still ignorant till now. So I'm just gonna copy paste whatever I said above just now:

Again, I would like to stress on the point that this is what happens if you don't read.

I explained everything you need to know about your counter proof in the comments above. If you're not gonna read it, then please leave instead of making a fool out of yourself.

"you CAN'T find anyone selling below 3 " you really need to visit a doctor check out your eyes :

unsold less than 3 keys

http://bazaar.tf/trade/120814 2 keys 2.33 ref : 15 days

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/307/3/0 2.65 keys , 4 days

Edit : unsold backpack.tf price

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8100999 only 1 offer 2 keys , 3 weeks ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7205903 month ago

Look who's the blind one:

"you CAN'T find anyone selling below 3 keys in Outpost as of now."

Please do not misquote me, and I can ensure you I never edited that post.

This is simply what happens if you chose to be an illiterate who refuses to read. You miss out on details which are important. I did mentioned OUTPOST.

Please go and make an appointment with your eye doctor. Otherwise, leave, because you made such a fool out of yourself today and it all started because you chose to be an illiterate.

A few of the 3 key offers are a month old, and with wh,market, unsold 3 keys, few under 3 keys: current range is sufficient.