Suggestion: Strange Degreaser at 6.88–7.33 ref

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~7.89 ref

194 votes up

254 votes down

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This suggestion was closed Sat, 16 Feb 13 05:54:54 +0000 by SirJjjon.

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These still sell for 2 keys, and indeed a search of Outpost buyers will show that there are TONS of trades selling for 2 keys. But its very possible to get for less (I've bought several for 6 ref flat). So, a range, with 2 keys as the max. Would've kept the range in keys, but 1.8 keys or something like that as a bottom range hurts to look at.

Buying 2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8625529 --- I've added this guy, no response as of now

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8477655 --- Buying for 2 keys, with Parts

Bought for 7.33 (2 Keys, at the moment, anyway)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8632171/ --- Yes, its me. Trade hasn't gone through yet.

Bought for 6.88

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8347407/ --Yes, me again.

Bought 1 key + 2.66 (6.22-6.33)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8627442

Bought 1 Key + 1.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8606398 -- Bought 2

Bought for 1 key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8427711 -- Yes, a quickbuyer. Obviously buying for profit. But some people are willing to sell.

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Selling 2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8578798 -- Sold one for 2 keys, over 2 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8601676 -- Unsold 1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8510680 -- Unsold 5 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8574549 -- C/O 2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8498326 -- Selling for 7.33

Selling 6.88

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8514721/ -- Hey! Its me again! Sold one degreaser at that price over 5 days. I've also had an offer open in the Classifieds (it says one day, but I've deleted and reposted it each day since that trade has been up)

Sold 1 key + 3 ref (6.55-6.66)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8619894

1- the only one selling below 2 keys is the suggester : yourself problem

2- the bought below 2 keys : buyer trades - buyer trades not suppose to use as proof of lowering prices

3- many successful sold @ 2 keys .

D o w n -V o t e .

buyer trade :/ guess u have better experience to get the point without any explaining

1. Not true. My name is certainly not 'Cross-Country Mexican Citrus'

And the point of posting my own trade wasn't that its being sold below 2 keys, but that its not selling well, even BELOW the current price. For 5 days. Not only did you not read all of my proofs, but you didn't even understand why it was there.

2. I don't see why not. Do buyer trades not count as successful sales?

3. And 2 keys is still in the price range, converted to metal, if you'd care to look.

I have no problem with you downvoting. But please come back after reading everything. Thanks.

i'm not taking the votes personally things mate , here there is rules to make suggestion

1- you have to change the price at least with 5% , here isn't 3%

2- your trade only can be use to proof unusual price or as sum of other links

3- 1 trade is not enough to change price :

4- buyer trades not counting as successful sales , outpost filled with lowballs

5- successful sales at the current price will destroy your suggestion

.... etc

other rules can be found during creating suggestion you'll find "show rules"

OK, lets do this again. Read this time.

1. Alright. Noted.

2. I think the wording here was a bit odd, but I think I got it. I'd remove it if I could, but its been too long.

4. Obviously lowballers aren't included in the price range. That why my suggestion is '6.88-7.33' and not '1-2 keys' I posted examples of buyers successful at reasonable prices. Why these can't be included is still beyond me.

3. Addressed in 4.

5. The current price is in my price, hence why I have them there. My suggestion wasn't to prove they don't sell at 2 keys, but that they can be bought below that.

And below that...yeah. Those are the rules below the suggestion boxes. No need to copy/paste them.

So yeah, with that said....can you explain your reasoning behind number 3? I'm not here to start an argument, just make a price suggestion. I'm just not seeing your point on the buyers, since not ALL of them are lowballers.

well its your choice to close it or keep it for voting , personally i'll be natural . lets peoples chose what they want .

If you will be natural, I will be sharp.

Its easy to buy it for like 6.33 - 6.66 ref,and they take a while to sell for 2 keys, because theres tons of traders selling them. I kinda agree with this range.

"Only submit a new price for this item if any existing open suggestions are not acceptable (above 5% difference)."

2 - 1.97 = 0.03

(0.03 / 2) x 100 = 1.5%

This change is too small.

If you don't agree, downvote and move on. No need to repost things others have said (Also, every Key suggestion violates that rule, but thats irrelevant here).

The change is small, but thats because I haven't moved the top end, and you're measuring average. Bottom end has moved 6.1%.

what about the people who pay up to 3 keys?

Just if you rip some newb.

so if you sell something for a price other then whatever has been decided on here then your ripping someone off now? when did this site become trade law?

EDIT: oh ya, about 6 months ago :D

EDIT EDIT: your wrong, it says here its worth EXACLTY 2 keys http://backpack.tf/pricelist/spreadsheet

why so serious im trolling you.

counter troll? ;D

EDIT: this whole thing is a joke anyways... is anyone here not troling? :P

I agree. 2 keys are 4, 5, and 6 days old http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/degrease

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8170716

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8371465

My recent trades, sold for 2 keys easy, one of them was bought 5 mins after the trade went up.

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link 1 and several others have bought for 2 keys

uncrated 3 #31 crates a few days ago, two degreasers and a grim hat, the degreasers got sold within hours for 2keys, i dont use em and the price seems fine.

Being the 1 Key + 3 Ref seller, I feel like adding something. I've sold a ton of degreasers at 1 Key 3 Ref (or 6.66 Ref), all of which were bought at 1 Key 2 Ref. And these aren't flying out of my inventory at that price either.

Also, classified listings for 2 Keys are going unsold for almost a week. These are definitely not 2 Keys flat anymore.

I sold two for 2 keys easily within 1 day.

I sold 3 for 2 keys ea.

" My suggestion wasn't to prove they don't sell at 2 keys, but that they can be bought below that. "

Hence the range.

That comment was Copy/Pasted from above. Thanks for (not) reading

I sold mine with 3 strange parts ( 3.27 keys on bp.tf ) within 1 hour for 3 keys. Downvote.

i dont think it matters if it hurts to look at 1.8 keys. The price supposed to be in what currency its usually traded in. And from what i can see, degreaser has been steadily selling for keys, its rising with the key prices, which is why i am against having this in refined.

Switching this item into ref is a clever move.

Since ref is less useful and price in ref doesnt increase as fast as keys value in metal, the item actually becomes cheaper if you move over to metal.

Why dont you make the suggestion in keys?

I would've suggested '1.8-2 keys', but in every suggestion like that I've seen, people raged over the range being ridiculous (at least in the trades where I read all the comments)

So basically, I didn't think the voters would even care to look at the proof if they saw such a range.

If this gets accepted I'm going back to spreadsheet. It's getting ridiculous around here.

how many you in the in the proof

Dunno, count them if you want. But remember what I posted above, as well:

"the point of posting my own trade wasn't that its being sold below 2 keys, but that its not selling well, even BELOW the current price. For 5 days.".

The fact that its me selling is irrelevant. The fact that they didn't sell for a low price for many days is. Now, if I had sold the degreasers instantly, the proof would've been useless.

On average, I sell 2-3 s.degreasers a day at 2 keys each. Price is fine; might even be a bit low now.