Suggestion: Refined Metal at $0.36–$0.38

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~$0.03

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This suggestion was accepted Tue, 19 Feb 13 04:10:17 +0000 by Brad Pitt | statsroyale.com.

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I agree that the price is falling (surprised it stayed up as it did).

Other suggestion full of proof: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/511d2283ba25366f3d000001

Nice proof, but it all supports a tad bit higher range. The $.35 part of the price is very hard to claim and anybody selling at that price gets instantly bought out.

(Sorry, had to do it)

Well since you piggy back off my proof and always attack my suggestions, fair is fair right?

Proving there are Sellers for $0.35:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8420868

(~100 in stock)

http://forums.sourceop.com/threads/136905-Ref-0-35-each?highlight=ref+refined

(currently restocking, has a 2 new buds and a bills in his BP that are likely for that purpose)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8468465

(TL claims this person isn't a serious trader, yet the trader claims to have traded $15,000+ in cash trades and has 6 pages of SOP rep)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7903214

(TL doesn't give this trade any credit b/c they only have 10 in stock atm. However, they still have metal in stock and it's more than they had yesterday.)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8618513

(150+ in stock)

Not another refined suggestion... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijTQE1jWClo

Not another useless comment :(

Here is a problem with your suggestion, and the reason I am downvoting it:

You said that the 35 cent pice is very hard to claim. But the proof, or the link providing proof, has several sellers at 35 cents, some more legitimate than others. Your comment of getting bought out immediately may be true, but people are still selling them at that price. Hence why I'm downvoting this suggestion.

If that's what you believe, that's fine.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8618513 200+ in stock.

And he isn't selling any which I find somewhat odd.

The trade has been up for a day. It's not like the market for purchasing refined is an explosive one.

Actually been up 2 days now. Had 130 on first day and now up to over 200. Just not sure why nobody is buying. Probably because very few buy from outpost. Would be sold out of it was on SOP.

And some sell for 40 cents let's make the range 30-50. ;)

I like the way this guy thinks!

Nah seriously, only the majority of trades should be included and that isn't 0.35 cent it seems.

Hahahahahaha Jester and tl_34_96 doing a refined suggestion side by side again.

Ikr? Classic. As long as it drops so that buds and keys become more realistic i don't care. With enough attention to this issue maybe brad will address it. *fingers crossed*

You, sir, are pathetic. PLS BRAD PITT PLEASE LOWER THE VALUE OF REFINED IT WOULD MAKE OUR LIVES COMPLETE.

Is that the main purpose of your life? to piss off the entire community just so you precious backpack will be adjusted to keys?

And you wonder why backpack.tf has an atrocious reputation with unusual traders and traders in general.

We grow weary of your hero worship to Brad Pitt. It is his website, so he can do this on his own accord. Begging him to devalue refined to do so is the best way to piss people off, not to mention the wrong thing to do.

Lol! That made my day. Yep, you got me. Brad worshiper. Lol

I'm not begging anyone to devalue anything. I'm trying to get realistic values on items. Refined sells for less everyday due to simple ecomimics. It's given away, for free, everyday. Do you think i somehow convinced people to sell refined for less than the current range? Lol have a good one buddy, pick up an economics text book and read it, then we can have a conversation. Until then have a good one. :-)

purple...^^

I don't see pissed people anywhere though (besides him lol).

Alright, I am going to point out the same thing that I pointed out on the other refined price suggestion.

I looked at tf2finance, and I noticed something that those inflating the key prices have not spoken up about. I noticed that in terms of USD, the price has been around $1.30 since June 25, 2012. I find it to be incredibly odd that the price has changed in game in terms of metal, but in terms of USD, not so much.

Why is this important? Because it can be proven that this entire key panic was pretty much engineered. The price has gone up a full refined since Halloween. But here is where TF2Finance fails those who are championing higher key prices:

The value has stayed the same since late June, and has only gone down in price to just around $1.25, before going to the current price of - $1.30

This would prove that the market is being manipulated so that keys have more of a value, and there is an implied status quo that is being maintained to maintain the price of keys.the same in terms of USD. This push to devalue refined is to minimize any potential profits you could make off buying refined instead of keys.

With that in mind, I will not support this price suggestion.

There is no key panic. There is no shortage of keys (other than at Halloween). What there does happen to be is an excess of refined.

Key prices are not going up, refined prices are going down.

Yeah, they are not going up. ACCORDING TO USD. You just missed the entire point. If the keys did not noticeably go up during Halloween (which they didn't) according to USD, it would imply a status quo to keep them low in terms of USD, where they might have gotten away with charging more on average during the event. So why did that not happen?

You do not even find even the slightest bit suspicious?

Keys did go up during Halloween. I think they broke $1.50 a couple of days after it and then started to slowly go back down.

And a quick look at TF2 Finance shows contrariwise. Using the USD graph on the site, it shows that the value rose from $1.25 on October 26th to a high of $1.30 recorded on November 6th, then dropping as low as $1.20 on December 4th, 3 weeks after the event. And the keys have been on the rise the 4th, when the price in refined via TF2 Finance was listed at 3 refined for the first time. I am saying that something does not add up. Why devalue refined when the price of keys has not changed dramatically since late June?

It was wrong.

Prices exceeded $1.50. I was there.

Price of keys in USD stays roughly the same after Halloween. Price of keys in refined raises. Therefore, price of refined in USD lowers. (I'm sorry if you can't understand basic mathematics and economics.)

So the two people who are trying to lower the price of refined are trying to lie about the keys exceeding $1.30 USD average during the Halloween event when it shows the prices never got above $1.30? Face it, you guys both got caught with your pants down. TF2 Finance is proving you wrong, and you act like you are trying to kick someone out of the house because there is a skeleton in your closets.

I'm not lying... TF2 Finance sucks at keeping up with key price in USD and base64 will tell you this. It's almost impossible to keep track of the prices on his site due to how none of the trades are done through steam to collect data.

I have no reason to lie over such a minute detail that has no bearing on this suggestion. I'm one of the more trusted cash traders out there, I know what I'm talking about. http://forums.sourceop.com/threads/127399

Yep, keys went crazy. I sold all the keys i had for $1.50 and couldn't restock they were so scarce.

A wise man once said "don't argue with a fool, because ppl from a distance can't tell who is who"

Trouble is, you are the fool. And TF2 Finance can prove it.

http://tf2finance.com/keys/

Pray tell, where is this $1.50 average that I must be overlooking? Oh, wait, trick question:

THERE WASN'T ONE DURING HALLOWEEN. The highest it went was $1.30... the same price level it has been at SINCE LATE JUNE.

You are badmouthing me, making statements that i have no intelligence, when the site that you dedicate your price hikes in terms of refined is pretty much saying that you two are lying in terms of a key's USD price. You two are throwing egg in both of your faces

tf2finance does not have eyes of god. Nor does backpack.tf, or spreadshit, or whatever pricing site you may use.

Key prices during halloween on SOP spiked to 1.45-1.55. Being someone who bought keys before halloween and then used them to unbox, I can vouch for this. I went to try and purchase more keys to find that the price had skyrocketed to 1.50, 1.45 if you were lucky.

Explain to me why some people think this site has eyes of god, then. Like the people who raise the prices ever so religiously.

this guy thinks tf2finance is infallible...

It's not a nice proof there,as explained countless times.Downvote.

Changing the low end from .35 to .36 doesnt really change anything.

Yes it does, it changes the price! and when people buy these in bulk they will see a major difference.

has 138 in bp and suggests a raise from the current suggestion using that suggestion as proof. why not find buyers at .36?

You do realize this affects everybody's backpack equally regardless of how many raw refined they have, correct? Refined - USD conversion rate is how the site determines the USD value of your backpack.

despite that, you are still trying to raise the value of refined in comparison to the other suggestion, and all you are saying is that the other suggestion supports a higher range, when the other suggestion has a couple sellers at 35 cents each, meaning that it supports the low end, not your low end.

That is up to the admins to decide.

i bought alot for 35 cents yesterday and have someone that still sells over 100 for that price :/

Can you give us some links or pictures as proof of this?

dont want to give away my secret seller :), but he was one selling for 35 in jesters suggestion

Was easier to find at 0.36 than 0.35 .. Let's go with 0.36 for now

http://forums.sourceop.com/threads/135418-Refined-0-36-0-40 (0.36, 500+ stock)

http://forums.sourceop.com/threads/129955-Ref-0-38-HeadCase-125-S40-13 (0.38)

Both active suggestions are very close in vote %.