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http://scrap.tf/keys sells keys at 4 refined each very fast. I think the price should rise a bit

    ooooooouh, the right way to get new friends

      People use scrap.tf because of the convenience, not because of it's good price currently. There are tons of people selling on outpost too for 4 ref.


      Def downvote

        seriously it's been suck story 3 key suggestions in one day ..

          Someone sells keys for said price? BETTER RAISE THE PRICE SO NO ONE CAN BUY KEYS ANY MORE.

          :( Downvote, you need atleast 40000 lines of proof, also, its too early, also, btw, im a girl:)

          scrap.tf sells for 4 ref not for 4,11 ref,lol

            Oh god not again, will those key suggestions ever end? A new price has been accepted 6 hours ago, yet they make new suggestions. I think backpack.tf shouldn't accept any price suggestion for keys for a while or this will never end - as soon as someones suggestion gets accepted they will try to raise the prices for another 0.11 ref. Downvote!

              Downvoted...


              There is no single proof of a key being sold for 4.11 ref...

                WHY, why people KEEP increasing key price WITH NO REASON


                WHY

                  STOP RAISING THE FUCKING PRICE

                    STOP HAVING A FAKE C/O ON YOUR TRADE

                    People keep on raising key prices because outpost traders sell at 1 scrap above upper limit. They say it reflects the market.

                    Here's a thought. People like to raise the price of a hat scraps above 1.33, or a scrap above the ticket price of 1.88. Pretty much everything on outpost sells a bit more than what is shown on backpack.tf.

                    If you people are so keen on raising key prices, why not do the same for all hats? Lets just make craft hats 1.44 or 1.55. Or increase the price of miscs and action items. Or raise unusual prices because everyone is selling them above the suggested price.

                    It is absolutely normal for prices to be above the one shown on backpack.tf and it is unnecessary to raise it every day. If you like doing that so much, go and increase the price of every hat. I'm sure you will find loads of "proof".

                      Agree with you. The key price has started going up since bp became popular. It's just this 'suggestion' system. It should definitely be changed.

                        It should definitely be removed*

                      Downvote. Keys are taking some time to be sold at 4 ref so 4.11 is hard to imagine.

                        It will be easy very soon, seeing the price just went to 4 ref.

                        I already see someone selling for 4.11 now. Pretty soon everyone will follow suit.

                        If admins dont want to fix this, i think maybe they should add some limits?


                        like suggestion can be made only after 2 weeks or 1 month after the last suggestion accepted?


                        cause otherwise situation will get worse and worse... Keys sellers GOT USED to the thing that they can INCREASE price by 1 scrap every week. Check the key price. It has never been constantly rising in such long period.


                        + If you count all ref+rec+scrap and the quantity of the keys, you will find the ratio = around 3.55 to 1.


                        backpack is being used to lobby price of the key in refined up.

                          forgot to factor in holiday keys ;)

                          Here's a suggestion, backpack.tf price shouldn't be increased on keys unless it's more than a rec. That will at least delay the price suggestions on keys every 5-6 hours

                            And this is partially why I have stop bothering trading for profit.

                              The price of keys are going too high nowadays.

                                I'd like to downvote but I just know that it will go through like the bullshit suggestions that have been accepted before so I won't even bother. Just stop it already.

                                  Garbage. no proof, and a new key was accepted a few hours ago, Downvote.

                                      Shut the fuck up.

                                        Now people are too scared to accept ref as currency anymore because of these suggestions :(

                                          Really why don't we get a script that automatically raises keys by 1 scrap each time some on on backpack decides to sell their keys?

                                            Hmm maybe 2 keys for 1 will be good...

                                            Per each rise price here ppl r rigning pirce on tf2op coz they wanna earn.


                                            example here price is 3.66 - tf2op price 3.77-88 > price update here to 3.88 - tf2op price 4 refs, thats really anoying ;/

                                              The increase in key price would happen with or without bp.tf


                                              bp.tf made be speeding the process along (but thats not necessarily a bad thing, since the faster they rise the faster they'll peak, and stabilize)

                                                I wonder why keys were solid 2.66 when backpack.tf was just a rumour. Stop kidding yourself.

                                                  ....Keys stayed at 2.66 becaue there was no reason for them to go up...


                                                  People use the marketplace as a means to drive up the price (and thats what set this whole situation in motion).


                                                  Heres what happens:

                                                  Current key price is 3.55 Ref

                                                  Someone sells a bunch of keys at 3.55 Ref and decides to bump his price to 3.66 Ref. People see he's succesful and bump their sell prices to 3.66 Ref, soon almost everyone is asking for 3.66 ref, and 3.66 is now the price of keys. Someone sells a bunch at 3.66 Ref and the cycle repeats.


                                                  This cycle has nothing to do with bp.tf, bp.tf might be speedingly it along, but it is most certainly NOT creating it.


                                                  Soemthing else to keep in mind, back when keys were 2.66 Ref, how many people traded? When i checked the number of users who used Outpost back in September, there were 170,000~ registered users...and now, theres close to 300,000.....FAR FAR more people are trading, which leads to an increased demand in keys, resulting in a higher key price.


                                                  Furthermore, people always say how there are more keys in existence now then ever, but they always skip over 1 small detail...How many of those keys actually enter the TF2 Ref market? and how many go to the market place?


                                                  History of keys:

                                                  Keys were 2-2.33 for the longest time because there was NO reason for them to go up and then halloween 2011 came along (the catalyst) and prices raised to 3 Ref, and remained at 3 Ref until about January (right after xmas), at which point they went to 2.66 Ref. Halloween 2012 came along, the demand for keys went up and the price rose to 3 Ref, then the marketplace was added, 2 critical events involving keys happening in such a short time, becoming the catalyst for key prices.....


                                                  P.S. Keys aren't going up Ref is going down, Why? Simple.... there are FAR more idle accounts now than there were back when keys were 2.66 Ref.

                                                    Same wall of text posted each time won't change my view on the stuff going on today. There is NOTHING that makes the keys go up in price today except greedy traders.

                                                    Key market today:

                                                    Price is x - x+0.11

                                                    Someone decides to set the price for his keys at x+0.22

                                                    In a week 6-10 idiots add him to buy some

                                                    People see this and start selling theirs at the same price or higher

                                                    This goes to backpack.tf

                                                    Price increases because "SUCCESSFUL SELLERS FOR x+0.22 HURR" and "SELLING FOR x+0.22 DURR"

                                                    This suggestion gets accepeted

                                                    New price: x+0.11 - x+0.22

                                                    Repeat.


                                                    Give up, you know this is what's going on.

                                                  I m not saying tht beacuse bp.tf its all about cunning Pple who want earn

                                                Oh god if this keeps up keys will be 5 ref in no time. backpack.tf needs to stop this madness