Suggestion: The Sneaky Spats of Sneaking at 3.66–4 ref

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~2.33 ref

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Suggesting 4 ref, because that is roughyl one key, and a low - point of 3.66 because that is a little under a key.

Proof:

Selling:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8744631 - Offers, 1 key offer

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9011368 - Selling at 1 key, no offers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8329504 - Offers, offered 2.66 + helmet without a home 1 week ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8627316 - Offers, same offer as above

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8026269 - Offers, offered nine pipe problem (3-3.33) 5 days ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7918660 - 1 key + 1 ref, no recent offers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9001003 - 1 key, 1 day old, no offers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9010487 - Offers, sold for 3.66 ref.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8927640 - Offers, no offers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8953781 - 1 key, have sold 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7405967 - Offers, offered black Rogue's Col Roule (1.5-2.5 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8733513 - Offers, offered 1 key 2 days ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8905127 - 1 key, had a buyer, but he bought it from someone else

MORE PROOF FOUND:

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9022491[/url]Selling at 3.55, got offer of 3.66 (rejected?)

(i messed up a url here)

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8881265[/url]Offer of one key(yesterday)

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9036062[/url] Added for spats, no sale occured however

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7793619[/url]Offer of one key

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9045880[/url]One hour old, selling for 1 key

MY OWN-FOUND COUNTER EVIDENCE! :

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9022491[/url]Selling at 3.44 offer of a charmer chapeau (trade only 3 days old)

please comment/rate

Using my proof are we?

It's ok, upvoted.

Its was such good proof, and i would like some rep to make up for my unusual suggestion bumrape (long story short, i suggested a newer price on my unusual and everyone downvoted because i had one, only for me to then go on and sell it for more than 15 keys higher than the current listing at the time)

Glad that you liked it, good luck, I'm leaving now.

Btw, 2 things.

1: Get some more proof, both to help convincing people, and to help the mods.

2: Click the "Edit" button and then "Save", it'll remove the stupid lines between everything.

Here's some buyers trades:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9046354 - Buying at 3 ref, add, but retracted, no other offers

Some weak to medium counter-proof:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7743205 - Buying at 3 ref, last success was 1 week ago

I found no buyers that's paying more than 3 ref.

Posting every trade under 3 ref. would just be a waste of time and space.

Outpost buyer are always looking for cheap though, and that last week buyer was lucky.

either way, this doesn't affect my suggestion much, simply showing that the price shouldn't DECREASE

It was my intention, to show that it needs to go up and not down.

I'm always happy to help, and especially when it's about getting someones first suggestion passed.

selling spats for 3.55 link did not reject an offer of 3.66, but rather the offer of 3.66 was retracted. also not to mention the 2 in classified listings at 3.33 ref each: http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/763/6/0

To be honest, those two little things are decent counter-proof but it is hard to judge by Bp.tf cuz people will pay far more attention to value at the time and i for one know that i have never looked on Bp.tf when i am trying to buy something

I sell these for a key.

It never lasts more than a day for me.

In fact, I find it hard to keep in stock.

BS! The last trade you had to sell one was a week ago trying to sell for 1k+1r. I bet that's not what you sold it for eventually. Browsing through your trades I couldn't find you selling these in the last 2 weeks at all, much less for "a key" within a day. You make it sound like you flip them a lot and know what you are talking about, which is not true at all.

Oh well, I guess we all have to let go of prices at one point in time.

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/763/6/0 - 4 for 3.33 - 3.66 (2 each)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9061935 - 3.33 No adds yet

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8960174 - 3.44 "

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9036062 - 3.66"

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8317400 - 3.66 (trade sold some moths ago, non at this price since 2 weeks)

Im not sure.. not many clean ones out there and many odd craft # :/

Not so sure 4 ref or a Key is common enough to be the new high end.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8627316 2 weeks old, no offers at all?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8733513 2 weeks old, had offers of 1k 2w ago (1k@3.66?!) and one 4d ago, but no trade

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8939717 1 Key, 5 days, no interest

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8941436 3.66, 5 days, no interest

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8964817 3.66, 4 days, 3.33 offer rejected

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8976236 3.66, 3 days, not much interest, but offer of 1k 3d ago (<4r), no trade

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9011368 3.66, 2 days, no interest

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9025508 1 Key, 1 day, no interest

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9034236 3.22-3.66 (Stash), 1 day, no interest

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9036062 3.66, 1 day, no interest

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9044480 3.66, 1 day, no interest

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9055652 3.66, 1/2 day, no interest

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9058367 3.66, 10h, no interest

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9061935 3.33, 5h, no interest

want "spreadsheet" price (1-1.5k):

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8819745 1 week old, no offers, not even the low end of 1k

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8744206 2 weeks old, no offers, not even the low end of 1k

And too many to list that try to sell for 1 Key or more, but don't

My conclusion: 3.66 flat would've been a better new "range", if even needed, allowing wtb for 3-3.33 and wts for 3.66-4, but trades will likely happen close to 3.66.

All i can say is that all your 'proof' is too young to stand firm against what i have presented

All I can say, is that selling at the supposed new low end should not have that many unsold over extended periods of time. Your 4 ref or 1 Key proof is very thin compared to what I showed, which supports that 1 Key sales are not very common and 3.66 is closer to the high end than 4 ref.

Besides that, most of your 1 Key offers or sales shown are days old when Keys were at least 1-1.5 scrap lower, not 4 refined.

This sort of thing happens all the time, some trades just don't catch the eye - god knows why - but most of the time i skip out 1/2 of the trades i see when i am buying, simply because i judge the trade by its cover

And, these are pretty hard to find on trade servers - which helps off-game sales alot

Easy to find these at the current price:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8617081 3.66 ref, 2 weeks old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8662107 3.66 ref, 2 weeks old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8919230 3.66 ref, 6 days old

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8964817 3.66 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8989160 3.66 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9011368 3.66 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9055652 3.66 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9064251 3.66 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9069063 3.66 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9069591 3.66 ref