There are people quick selling for 15 and non quick sells for 20 buds each.

If you need proof,check these links:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8692280 (19 buds)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8841943 (20 buds)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9101152 (15 buds)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9059428 (18 buds)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9074890 (15 buds)

The best offers these are getting is a v. big kill and unusuals.

None are getting any good promo offers and are being sold them,even at quick sell prices.

I noticed these are very hard to sell in these past weeks and are hard to get rid off.

If you need any more proof,contact me.

I'm afraid none of the max's on the market are clean or ever will be.

There are only a few clean max's and I dont think they will be traded,ever.

So this might make the max's price on the "market" price.