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*remade price range to accommodate lower bound
well i recently crafted a bunch of these (7 in total, kept one for myself which i am not selling) and sold them rather successfully for 2 ref each (my trade here: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8937251)
proof:
(i already excluded all of the ppl that are asking for more than 2ref because of some random craft# that they think is unique or a unique level selling as a set etc - btw there are a TON of these trades)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9206568 - 1.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9067057 - 1.66 (with someone adding for that price)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9175163 - 1.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8112631 - 1.77 claims 38 sold at that price
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9198106 - 1.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8693825 - was selling for 1.66 and sold out
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9193302 - sold out at 1.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9215253 - 2 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9199875 - 2 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8104884 - looking for 2 ref (was offered 1.66)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9156112 - 1.66+spywatch (obviously trying to craft more)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9203162 - 1.77
screenshots of sales here (names blotted for privacy)
if people added me and did not have pure metal, they were more than happy to overpay in items as you will see below
http://s2.postimage.org/p7x9ffe1l/Screen_Shot_2013_03_11_at_8_23_16_PM.png - 2 ref
http://s21.postimage.org/y4gg6ccs7/Screen_Shot_2013_03_11_at_8_23_01_PM.png - purity fist (1.66-2) + a bit of metal because it wasnt pure
the last one: three trades in a row
http://s7.postimage.org/de5f1qty3/Screen_Shot_2013_03_11_at_8_22_17_PM.png
(descriptions from top to bottom)
first - 2 ref
second - gave me his spare hat (dashin hashshashin) + some metal in exchange for 2 hats and the quackenbirdt
third - hat + 1 ref
now comments from the previous suggested range
ChampBGB
sup, i'm link 8.
i have been planning to make this suggestion for a while, because this current suggestion has led people to add me expecting me to sell them a quaken for 1.33, but i wanted to stock up on enough proof before i make it. I'm gonna help yours out.
i've sold many more for 2 ref, but i do not have any proof of those sales. only of the ones linked below.
I've decided to take proof to the next level and take screen shots of my sales. (cause people often assume that the items go unsold.)
images: (date of sale should be in screenshot)
http://imageshack.us/f/266/poofie.png/ (quack+ 2 ref = 1key) (keys~4ref)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/405/proofkeepscoming.png/
(quack+0.33 = voucher) (vouchers=2.66)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/15/keeponproofing.png/
(quacken = 2 ref)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/32/proofoe.png/
(2 ref sales)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/evenmoreeproof.png/
(another 2 ref sale)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/341/stillmoreproof.png/
(yet another 2 ref sale)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/803/proofup.png/
(final proof of 2 ref sale)
7 sales for 2 ref or more
Evidence to keep 1.33 as a lower bound
P*Funk [ESG]
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9205838 [3 for 1.44 each]
Its not 1.33, but its not 1.66 either. Less than a day old.
How did this trade not make it into anybody's searches?
EDIT. Okay I did some mild searching....
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9203898 [1.55]
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9206065 [2 for 1.33]
Both also less than a day old. 3 links on the first 4 pages of outpost for under this suggestion's range, plus another 1 on classifieds for 1.33. All less than 24 hours old.
conclusion: most trades found @1.66-1.77 (approx. 40 min sold) some found for a lower price (1.33-1.55) with replies (approx 5 items on the market)
lots verified sales at 2ref or more to justify upper bound (12 screenshots posted with more sales not screenshotted and from other trades)
I do not if this is necessary even. for those of you that dont know I'm the 38 person seller. check the other post for my comments. I'm lazy
I agree. I recently tried to get this from Outpost and it was a nightmare trying to find for the listed price here, not an easy find and was much easier to actually source the crap needed to craft it. Great proof, upvote!
Well, my problem is when people take experiences on outpost as experience of trading. outpost is a great place to figure out the upper limit of how high you can actually sell something.
Its been my experience that through backpack classifieds that you can find items much lower there on average. Unfortunately backpack also doesn't leave us any evidence once something sells.
Honestly, sometimes I read "I couldn't find one" and I wonder where people are looking.
I also think that its wrong how people think that if you can't find one for a price that it means the price has gone up. If there are only X of one price available, and Y of a higher one, then all of X can get bought out and you won't see anymore til more peopel selling for X put them up, or craft them or whatever.
I believe that prices don't rise just because it might take another day for someone willing to sell for cheaper hasn't posted his since the rest for the same price have been bought out.
If we acted this way with much much higher priced items then we'd see endless price hiking. If I want a Big Kill for 15 keys instead of 16 I might only have a few I can't find a day for that much. Just because allt he 15 key priced ones get sold doesn't mean that the price has gone up, just means I should wait til more show up on the market.
This is still true for lower priced items, but I don't think people really appreciate this.
I'm gonna upvote this, I think it is supported by the evidence. I appreciate OP's efforts on this one.
sweet bro thx 4 ur agreement
i seriously tried for 4 days on outpost, backpack.tf classifieds, dispenser.tf and the bazaar site fyi, no need to write a novel m8 it's only virtual duck watches
lol, tell that to the people who design, run, and populate a site dedicated 100% to tracking the virtual value of 1s and 0s. XD
hey buddy, just sold another one this morning. sold it right when i was viewing your new suggestion.
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2192/proofproof.png (quaken=2 ref)
I hope the best for your new suggestion
In case you need more proof of 1.33 being the lower range, I just bought one yesterday for that price!
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9208493