Suggestion: Strange Flare Gun at 5–5.33 ref

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~2.63 keys

518 votes up

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This suggestion was accepted Sat, 23 Mar 13 03:43:34 +0000 by SirJjjon.

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Recently I have been confused because I have had other suggestions with positive votes and should have been accepted, until I realized bp.tf is not ruled by democracy. It is ruled by nobles. However, the opinions and judgements of these nobles are almost 100% accurate and if they even abused their power whatsoever, no one would use this site. So I trust their calls and accept his/her closings/acceptances. So, your votes really don't matter but I would appreciate it greatly if you upvoted.

This is how I envisioned this price. The current key price is 4-4.22. I am finding many offers for 1 key 1 ref and the high end of current price. Really think we should up the low end. So wouldn't the proper suggestion be 5-5.33?

Proof:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9301760 -sold mine to this guy for 1 key 1 ref check the history of the item on his bp.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9441907 -1 key 1 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8257182 -offer 1 key 1 craft hat

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9189867 -sold 3 for 1 key 1 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9461638 - 1 key 1 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9344676 -offer of 5 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9426414 -1 key 1 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9461524 -1 key 1 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9075263

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9070071 -sold 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9364417 -offer of 1 key 1 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9454464

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9451347

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9400939 -sold 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9321013

5.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9415047 -5.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9075263 -reused proof because of all offers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9327440

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9413784

-Nevermind-

I didn't realize you can tack random shit onto the end of an Outpost link and it will still work :O

like that?

unsolds at 1 key 1 ref aren't proof for that price

well then look at the solds

I will, but you shouldn't list irrelevant trades under your "proof" to try to make it look more convincing. It is misleading.

The unsolds not only represent the price should be changed sort of, but also the popualrity and demand of the item and price change. Sorry for being misleading good sir

>represent the price should be changed

>the popualrity and demand of the item and price change

it's literally the opposite, though. If I ask 3 refined for my craft hat and no one buys it, it doesn't prove that the price should be changed or that it is popular or that there is demand. Sorry if I'm sounding like an ass, just advice for future suggestions.

ah thank you. Kinda new to this, always wanna hear some advice to my superiors c: and no hard feelings from you

Voting is one of the ways to see how the community thinks, it doesnt mean positive vote = accept. Generally if you have correct/enough provong our suggested price rangr it will be accepted.

If bp.tf was as you thought to accept/reject suggestions based purely on votes, i can probably open up a trade lowering the price of key, with no proof and nothing and will still get a massive amount of upvotes.

You will be lying to yourself if you say all traders vote honestly, thus voting is only one of the ways but doesnt dictate 100%

Hope this helps.

o thanks clears some loose ends i had

More proof at suggested price range:

Decent offers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8846730 (5 refs, 3 weeks)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7119381 (1 key + 1.33 refs, 1 month) <- offer made 1 week ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9443586 (2 keys) <- had crit kills on it

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9189867 (5 refs, 1 week) <- had multiple adds for this price

Note worthy offers/trades

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9402909 "Luna" spammed multiple trades trying to buy at key + 0.66 refs, no success from at the time of posting this.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8424720, http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8349232 "xesp" same as trader above.

Seems like a few traders are spamming trades trying to buy for 4.66 refs then reselling it out at the higher price range.

Quite alot of people that offer 5refs right off the bat. Upvoted

thanks man

Most of the offers/sales you have are in Keys. So wouldn't it make more sense to attach the weapon's price to keys rather than refined?

too many key price changes, makes all the suggestions half-hearted if you know what I mean. I was seriously considering of using the key currency but there are just so many changes in key prices

yep. bp.tf is an oligarchy, where a select few nobles have all the power

...If its all the same to you, can you keep this on the down low? Kinda don't wanna anger the aristocrats and get this closed...appreciated though

If you had spoken to any admins, you would know that votes absolutely do come into consideration for suggestions. I'm guessing the suggestions you were referring to were key suggestions?

nope...stranges mostly

I just took a look at your previous suggestions and yes although you had alot of upvotes, the proof wasnt sufficient enough for the strange knife(changing the price from 1-1.33 to 1.33refs flat). Although you had proven that quite alot were being sold at 1.33, it didnt show that 1ref was "too little" as evidently some were still being sold at that range, which is probably the reason it wasnt accepted. Though looking into the knife should still have a small bump in the range maybe.

ah received a lot of comments bout that...realized that....and promised my self never to make another suggestion...well you can see how that turned out :P

do you think this proof is sufficient?

Hmmm from the offers this thing it getting it's evident that the previous price range it a bit too big.

I would suggest finding a few more successful trades at the lower end of your suggested price. Just remember that selling =\= sold. If someone is selling at a price it doesnt necessarily mean that it is being bought.

I would look up some more proof for you but im on my phone atm but from what i see quite a few are being sold right off the bat for 5 refs :D

Bought one for 4.66 ref and resold for a Key + .66 + a Squad Surplus Ticket from a man name Kestrel and his friend Luna. The 4.66 was me lucking out, as there were 0 other seller at that price, and the person was cashing out. Upvote on my part!

hey tell me something. Why is your trading business so much better than mine???Lol

I made a post about it on /r/tf2trade, would you like me to repeat it here? It boils down to be polite, be efficient. I can expand on the specifics if you want.

wait whats /r/tf2trade? and Yes I try to be polite to customers

Reddit.com has subreddits, and one of them is reddit.com/r/tf2trade, shorthand is /r/tf2trade.

o i have no idea what reddit is...i feel left out and stupid

It is a very addicting website that through user-filtered information at you in the form of links, images, and cats. You should try it out imo.

EDIT: I'm reddit.com/u/rhys13th, if you were at all curious.

im always curious :)

Images, links, cats, and so much porn.

~Reddit.

lol... someone else finally realized that the votes mean nothing...

yup...ya know its the same with presidential elections right?

in many parts of the world, yes.