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Hi guys :) How's your day?
Anyways, this has been bothering me for a while, thought I'd like to share it with you guys and see how you feel. We all know that crate 40 has been discontinued, and hence the prices should go up. And only go up. I don't know how the widowmaker dropped, because the demand is actually high. I'd like to raise its value based on the community's demand for crate 40 items. Some people say the demand will go down, but if you think about it, they are just jealous that other people have these items. Don't be one of them ;)
And people are buying these easily for 5 keys. That is the higher end of the item's price, so umm... I think it should go up.
Proof:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9262790 Sold one for 7 keys 2 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9332748 Selling for 7 keys. Someone offered strange festive mackerel minus a key (5 keys) decent offer, but insta reject.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9043898 (Offer in items about 6 keys, rejected)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7665548 (Offer of 5.5 keys and 6 keys, rejected)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9365981 (Selling for 6 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9060864 (Selling for 9 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7663698 (Offer of 6 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9076840 (Using this to buy an unusual...)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9378906 (5 keys, instantly 2 buyers)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9430531 (Selling for 8 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4937163 (Offer in items for Widow plus Hunts. I calculated it to be about 6 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9429413 (Easy offer for 5 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/1840079(Selling for 8 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9301012 (two offers, one is about 5 keys and one is 6 keys straight. Both rejected)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9297075 (Selling for 7 keys. Offer for SF fish minus one key, or about 5 keys, insta reject.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9379656 (Selling for 12.5 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9316173 (Not related, just seeing that people are sniping other people's customers like that makes me sick)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9276191 (C.O: 5-6 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5866422 (Tons of offers not hidden. 6 keys, 7 keys, 7 keys in items, etc)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6790170 (3 for about 36 keys.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6128594(Selling for 10 keys, offers are decent too- about 6-10 keys range)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6399529 (Offer buy two widows for 1 sap. Thats about 6.5 keys each)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9408341 (Selling for 6.25)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9251361 (Selling for 5.5 keys each, someone added immediately to buy. I saw their backpacks)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6611268 (Selling for 12 keys)
I can do this all day long, but I got to do my homework now :)
Happy Trading! :)
And sorry guys for my noob skills for price suggestions. First I click save accidentally without posting proof and didn't find out until my rep decreased by a ton, and next I put the currency as in refined...... And the third time I put the new price a little too high so the community did not like it. Please don't mind those :)
Thanks!
Hey K3N, thanks for contributing. Before I start digging through your proof, I wanted to mention that unsold trades (such as the guy asking for 12 keys) can't be considered proof, since it doesn't show people are willing to pay it. Unsuccessful buyers and traders can be useful to find a general range, but the successful trades and offers are the best proof.
Oh I see your point but I see many other people doing that too so I thought it was ok to do it
Well, it gives the appearance of a lot more proof, but causes people to do more work to go through it all and see if anyone actually offered and how old the trade is.
Unsold do help when you want to take an item down ?!
What if there is an item that worth 3.66-4ref and i want to take it down to 3.66?
The first thing i do is go to outpost and find many unsold at 4 ref..
+even new unsold links help because it show that too many people want to sell it for this price and it should go down (of course you need to add some sold links but unsold help a lot, i got about 3 suggestions that got accepted with unsold links only :p)
true. I was speaking in the context of raising the price of an item.
I think for some reason we should of have higher than 5 keys but as you said the community didn't like it.
Yeah too much change at once is not good. I think it is best to raise it a little and see the response. If the response is good, we keep raising it :)
looks good. my bp will enjoy this :-)
Big job +, I have one and I support UP+
I've seen many selling at 5 keys too, so you got my vote.
buyers:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9413225 - bought at least 3 for 4keys1ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9395628 - 4keys1ref, 4keys2ref offered
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9430498 - 4keys3ref offered
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9086429 - 4keys2ref offered
Probably the current range is still valid, but it's only a matter of time before this strange increase. Neutral.
Dang what a comeback. 2 keys about 10 days ago now jumping up.
Yeh K3N u r right
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/527/11/0 - there are still a few for under 5 keys
Yeah, there are SIX right now.
You are right, Upvote. People were just dumb on last trade and downvoted probably because they think you were seeking personal gain, but you're not. It's just the truth.
ya... these are selling for a lot more.
but someone found a few links to trades where people were selling for like 4.5 keys and haddent gotten an offer in a day or 2.... so aparently thats what their worth now >.>
Not bad, but the 5 key offers will likely be retracted as these items go down after update hype. Not saying that they'll never go up again, but the trend usually acts in this way.
Downvoting due to the 4-5 that are in classified, one even posted under 20 minutes ago