Suggestion: Salvaged Mann Co. Supply Crate #40 at 9 keys

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~23.4 keys

#40

458 votes up

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This suggestion was accepted Sun, 24 Mar 13 13:09:23 +0000 by Puddilicious.

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http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/salvaged about half a dozen at 9 keys flat.

Selling for 9 keys!

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9462243 9 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9464825 9 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9467321 9 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9470659 9 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9474636 9 keys

All unsold.

Offers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9343868 offered 8-9 in items

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7084342 offered 10 1 week ago, no offers since

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9240499 offered 10 keys 6 days ago, nothing since

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9391693 No offers above 8 keys

Thanks to Gold in my D*ck for proof!

Comments, concerns, and counterproof is always appreciated!

Guess who.

Peekaboo ^^;'

You posted 5 links selling to 9 keys, while whole TF2Outpost is selling at 10-12+ range. I've said this in another trade, and I'll say it again, when trying to adjust a price that it's going down, LOWBALL offers don't matter, if we guide the price by the offers and lowballs all the items would be worth nothing: example, if I have to price my unusual by the offers I have, it would be around 6-10 Earbuds, while real price it's 10.6-11.6.

However, offers DO matter when trying to rise a price, but it doesn't count as shit when dropping prices. These crates can be easily sell/bought at 10 keys or more. Downvote.

Same goes to quicksells, as the first links.

Why are they quicksells? those are perfectly valid. I can put up a 2 bud unusual for 3 buds and say its quicksell. You can use quickseller proof, as long as they are unsold for a certain amount of time, your just not allowed to use quickbuyers, as they buy below market price.

9 keys is not a quick buy. I would say 7 is a quick buy.

"These crates can be easily sell/bought at 10 keys or more". Thats retarded. There are 15 people SELLING them for 9 keys. Meaning you can instantly get it for 9 keys. Why would you pay 10 keys? Yeah, there are people selling for 10 keys, but that doesn't mean people are buying them for 10 keys. Especially since there are so many unsold at 9. And the prices here are based on the price people are willing to pay. If no is willing to pay 11.6 for your unusual, well then thats not the price.

While it may be true that 15 people are selling for 9 keys, often enough people don't search enough and purchase after looking at the first page of their search so these people become part of the spread in prices that people purchase. Second, these 15 people cannot satisfy the full market but become part of the market once again with their inclusion in the spread price. For me this is a simple down vote because you mush show the full market activity and not just specific evidence to prove a point.

¿So you want to change the price for 15 people selling lower than the backpack.tf price?, if you're selling below the stablished price it's a quicksell, because you need the keys quick, or simply it doesn't matter to you loosing one key. If you would have to set up a price for them you would put them at 10-11-12 keys. There's no way a limited crate would drop in price, another thing it's that the demand of the item it's satisfied, and people don't feel the need to buy the crate since it's unsure when it's going to rise and the hype just passed. Maybe people retracted from buying the crate and it's selling it quick, as the 15 (And only 15 in all the F!$5& Mannconomy). This price suggestion it's bad.

Price it's not established for what people are willing to pay, because that'd a stupid idea: Example, OH! I DON'T WANT TO PAY 27 KEYS FOR A BUD, LET'S DROP THE PRICE. If price were based on what people are willing to pay then sell your unusual for a bud. But no, the counterback it's "I'm the seller, i'm in the posession of the item" then the price it's established on what people are willing to sell their items for, not speculations about the price buyers want to buy. Basic Mannconomy for Dummies.

It's the agreed price on buyer/seller, not just buyer, if not the whole TF2Outpost would be a flea market.

BTW: The comment from Wolf_770 "I think because its at 10 keys pepole will lowball to 9 and when it goes to 9 pepole will offer 8 and so on. I think this should go up because it has expired."

The first part it's the bible of TF2Outpost,

but the price isn't what your selling for. Its what the buyers are willing to pay. Keys are going up, because buyers are willing to buy for higher than the market price. If no one wanted to pay 27 keys for a bud, that means the demand is dropping, and demand and supply is a key factor for prices. the lower the demand the more it drops. So yeah, if no one paid 27 keys for a bud, it would go down. You might be in possession of an item, lets say its 1 of 1, and you value it at 12 buds. But if no one is willing to pay more than 10, would 12 buds still be the right price? As the most you can get is 10.

Your logic it's excluded from Lowballs, considering that TF2Outpost it's about profit, no one would want to pay the full price of an item (Besides currency). If you have a 100USD Bill, and no one it's willing to trade it for more than 50USD, the price should drop?.

If you have a 1 of 1 it's up to you because you're the only one who have it, but it's a different case for the crates. The range on bp.tf exist for something, if there are 15 people selling at a different price, bad for them, they will sell it quick but the item will get to someone hands who will resell for a higher price.

The price it's not what people is willing to pay, because i'm willing to pay 1 key for a earbud doesn't mean they should drop the price, because there would be no fucking retarded on the planet who would sell a earbud for a key.

"The lower the demand the more it drops" that's when you have a overstock of something that you want to get rid off, if you have a bag of potatoes which will rot in a week and nobody's willing to pay more than 12USD for them, yes price will drop. The item don't expire, and the crates are limited, that means that at some point the crates will ran out (Of course it will not happen, but let's imagine). Same goes for the Unusual Soldier Stash, it's retired

You want to change the market for 15 assholes that want fast keys? What about the other 3+ Million users of Steam? The same route went the #30 Crate.

Try to sell your unusual for 1.8-2 Earbuds and I'll make a suggestion with the offers you get, it's a stupid logic.

If you get a Burning Flames TC (And it's a real offer of course) then the offer WILL MATTER to rise, but if you get the most shittiest offer, would YOU be willing to accept a price suggestion that it's going for let's say: 11-20 keys?

Also, disliking my comments won't make your logic better.

if the best offer i get after say after about a month for 20 keys, then thats the price.

i think because its at 10 keys pepole will lowball to 9 and when it goes to 9 pepole will offer 8 and so on. I think this should go up because it has expired.

and all the stuff inside it should go up a bit

It should not go up because it has expired. The only reason it should go up is if people are paying more. And I think the current range fits what people are paying, generally.

9keys is still in the current range.

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Your last one was accepted 2 hours ago -_- Why did you make another one ? This crate has expired and its price needs to go up, if you set 9 keys as its price ppl will offer 8 keys, And if you set it as 8 keys ppl will offer 7 keys... Do you understand ? ppl always will lowball...

COUNTER-PROOF:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9462243 9 keys - Has an add

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9464825 9 keys - /Sold/ Check BP, 9 new keys, no S40

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9467321 9 keys - Has an add

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9470659 9 keys - /Unsold/

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9474636 9 keys - /Sold?/ Check BP, lots of new keys, no S40

Bad counterproof. Last one is selling for 8 now.

Explain? He no longer has the crate in his BP, but has a lot of new keys. He is a donator (the blue dollar symbol next to his name) and thus his trade auto-bumps. He sold it for his price and simply hasn't taken the trade down yet.

So he sold it for 8 keys.

And how are the other links counterproof to this suggestion of 9 keys? It shows that it's getting sold at 9 keys.

And that's a nice crate #40 you have in your backpack.

It's a response to the suggestor's proof? he claims they're all unsold.

And thank you, that's a nice lack of S40 in yours as well. Let's hope they drop so that you can bulk buy them and then manipulate the prices back up.

Stop trying to whore rep by cherry-picking examples, please. The artificial panic-selling caused by backpack.tf is disgusting.

wait a darn second, your not lazy purple YOU IMPOSTERIOR IMPOSTOR

but if u r him, <3. and you need to make more vidoes, as a personal favour to me, uk, cuz we tight and all. you don't remember me, but we went to college together, I was 2 seats behind you.

scrap.tf has crates selling for 8 keys:

http://scrap.tf/promos?bot=13

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9450392 6-7 keys here

im pretty sure he is buying not selling.

Just sold one for a Team Spirit Painted Voodoo Juju non-gifted. That's worth around 10-11 keys, so downvote.

Lots of proof and I want to see it around 6 keys so I can buy more. Keep pushing it down guys. Keep pushing it down.

http://backpack.tf/u/76561198019310030 - 8.5 Keys