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Old price and realllllllyyyy low compared to actual selling price. Fixed range from last suggestion.
Currently only one on OP and YES in fact i own it.
1 of 3 in the world.
Ive tracked this hats history to see what it has sold for and its a little weird. It was sharked from the first owner for a bills hat 1:1 the history from there is as follows:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4657658
SOLD FOR A PEACE TREE (1.4-1.7) to this -> ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/82249 ) guy.
Got sharked from this guy for a fetti german gonzilla (obviously he had no idea what unusuals were worth) and was sold to.....
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4991543 <-- that guy
SOLD FOR A BEAMS COUPE (1.6-1.9) (price as of 5 months ago) to -Mr. Tiger
And then it was sold to me for about 60 USD
The reason why this is valued higher is because of a possibly theme with the fetti and candles, could be argued its a birthday candle blah blah not pricecheck so ill shuttup
SO! This range comes from the beams coupe mainly along with my buying price. The peace tree brings down the low end and the high end. The gonzilla and the bills were obvious sharks so they were disregarded. Counterproof is welcome.
ALL PRICES CALCULATED FROM THE TIME OF TRADES. IM NOT MAKING A BUTTLOAD OF PROFIT BECAUSE I BOUGHT FOR ABOUT 2 BUDS WHICH IS HIGHER THAN THE RANGE
Looks solid to me
did you look at the dates of the 2 trade links?
This hat has never been voted on for a price. To me, any trade in the last 6 months is fair game because it would be a more accurate representation than the current range.
true-very true, i wont lie on his last suggestion that he closed an hour ago, i didnt look at the dates, but when i came back (which was sooner than i thought) i saw the comments, checked for myself then realized its decent proof but i dont feel comfortable upvoting OR downvoting his suggestion for that matter.
so good luck with your suggestion! im gonna stay neutral!
Totally agree. I think it would really be best for him to get a few offers before actually suggesting a price.
doesnt much matter, the prices on most those hats have not changed over 1-4 keys :L
I won't repost my last comment, but I'll sum it up: The trades are too far in the past, Gonzilla claim is only true if we believe your range.
But I found this trade on outpost you could use as proof! This person won't accept LESS THAN ONE BUD, and they agree that the backpack.tf price is wrong!
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9525944
Wait a second...
Do you have a point? Those trades are far in the past because they are the only ones on OP. I priced the unusuals what they were priced at time of sale so it should be fine. As linking my trade, I was warding off lowballers and I hardly see why it's relevant to this suggestion.
They're far in the past, thats exactly my point. Prices from six months ago are completely irrelevant now.
And its fairly common for people to post suggestions in an attempt to raise the price's value in their backpack. It wouldn't be much of a stretch to think they might try to do it to get more profit by selling it.
I bought it for 2 (60$)which is above the suggested price. I won't be profiting
If the price raises as you've suggested, thats almost a full bud increase. Thats an immediate profit whether you want to admit it or not.
But not for me because ill be selling it for what I bought it for
Immediate, not long term.
Long term you'd essentially be minimizing your losses from the time you bought it.
Alrighty, here's an idea instead of making conspiracy theories why don't you go find some counterproof
Counterproof? I'll simply look back at your original post and see the Gonzilla trade. You claim its 'sharking' but the fetti Gonzilla's range is within the lower part of the current range. (I will agree that the Bills 1:1 is clearly an awful deal)
Its getting late now, but if this is still open tomorrow, I'll see what I can find as counterproof. I doubt it'll be more than one or two trades, since only three of these exist. For all I know, this could be the only one ever sold (and outpost not showing closed trades won't help)
Ok thats fair, the reason i called it sharking is because the dude bought it for a peace tree then sold it for the gonzilla. So he was a terrible trader obviously but you can formulate your opinion however you choose. At least I included it haha could have hid it.
So I went out to look for counterproof, here's what I found:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8925754 <---- 1 bud offer, hid without even a comment (It would appear that this Wayfinder eventually found its way into your hands). 3 weeks ago
Aaaaand...that was the only other trade I was able to find. I wasn't able to prove you wrong (Although I didn't really help prove your range either). HOWEVER I was able to prove that the current range isn't correct. This won't sell for 22 keys.
Thanks! Least we can agree on that much right?
Oh snap
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4657658 first link was 6 months ago
http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/82249/2 Second link 4 months ago
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4991543 Third link 5 months ago
O_O
This hat has never been voted on for a price. To me, any trade in the last 6 months is fair game because it would be a more accurate representation than the current range. That being said, I think it would be better to wait on suggesting after he gets a few offers.
I think I have enough proof as is but thank you for understanding the old trades an explaining them for me :)
i love how you say its themed as fuck, yet i cant figure out why it is
Beside the point
not besides the point. because you only base the price on it being "themed as fuck" and having trades that are over half a year ago as proof
Because there are NO FUCKING OTHER TRADES than then ones I linked, if you have ANY trades to prove I'm wrong feel free to share!
doesnt matter if THERE ARE NO OTHER FUCKING TRADES, it matters what it will sell for now, and not half a year ago.
also, if you have the only one, you cant set the price without a buyer
Ive done it before, regardless im tired of arguing so im going to let the admins decide on this one. Notes contain all my arguments and proof so we shall see,
are you serious ?
As a heart attack.
Yes, old price is way off. But you bought it from the last owner, along with 29 other painted waxys, for around $60? http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8925754 - they were all painted. If we take a conservative estimate of 2 ref for each waxy, that turns out to be 58 ref or about 14 keys using a key price of 4.11. Buds are about $33 each, so 60 would be 1.8 buds, minus the 14 key value, would get about 1.3 for this hat alone.
The oldest beams coupe price was actually 1.2-1.5 buds, and it was increased to 1.5-1.7 three months ago: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/50cd2f81ba2536cd380000a9
Oldest peace tree price is actually also 1.2-1.5: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/50850f5449d7b8c65500003b
Yes, this hat needs an increase. But I think 1.6-1.9 is a bit too high