Suggestion: Smoking Officer's Ushanka at 15.04–20.05 keys

Price Suggestion

~31 keys

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This suggestion was closed Thu, 28 Mar 13 18:35:24 +0000 by A Distinctive Lack of Vincent.

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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9502864

-B/O of 25 keys

-Offer of O.P. Bombing Run ~ 18 keys (w/o overpay)

-Offer of G. Ap-Sap + 3 keys ~ 17-18 keys

-Offer of Strange Original ~ 17-18 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9510526

-B/O of 25 keys

-Offer of Bill's Hat + Robro + Merc's Muffler ~ 12.5 keys

-Offer of Steaming Copper's Hard Top + S. Begger's Bazooka ~ 20 keys (w/o overpay)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9460069

-Offer of 3 Bill's Hats ~ 24 keys

so if 10 people are going to offer 1 scrap for buds you are going to suggest 1 scrap for buds?

Don't rage because your item might go down.

i rage becouse you set prices according to lowballs.. or whatever this is called. and i got offered 25 keys in pure but it didn't wokr out becousei wasn't online at that time..

Backpack.tf is a joke with unusual pricing.

Show proof of that 25 pure offer please

what do you think that i prt scr every chat? are you serious?

If you can't prove it, don't mention it.

I got offers of harvest moon and scorching tc on my strange equalizer in private chat. Nobody will believe me until I show a screenie. Same with you

But buyouts are still low and no one is buying

Noone is buying becouse not alot of people play heavy.. and i get alot of offers. tho most of them are lowballs becouse people like you say that these hats are ''cancer'' if id' have more items to trade i'd keep this unusual becouse i actually like it, and not only becouse i own it.

I mean if the current b/o's of this hat is 25 (no buyers) there's no reason to pay 29 keys for this...

i agree with you. but people are not offering more becouse everyone is saying that those hats are cancerouse and even people who really like this hat are not going to buy it for that much becouse they think they can get it for cheapre.. and they are probably right, but that is only becouse of such price drops on ''cancerous'' hats

http://imgur.com/7J8VLE7

Thanks for the extra proof

ofc. i'm selling it for lower prices and i just explained it to you why.. and 23 is just the lowest price.. becouse if you set price rage from 23 - 29 noone is going to buy it for 29 i mean are you stupid? those price ranges are stupid aswell. there should be like only 1 price..

"only 1 price"

If it was like that, that would mean that unusuals are only bought and sold at that price. Are you stupid? If the price is 23-29 keys and nobody pays 29 keys, that means that nobody is willing to pay that much for said hat, therefore it goes down in value.

not all unusuals omg.. but every unusual should have only 1 price and than just bargain around that price.. and noone is willing to pay the top price for anything.. i mean why would they if there is a lower price

"bargain around that price"

My suggested price is 18-24 keys. 20.5 keys is in the middle, so people bargain around that price and you get 18-24 keys. Happy little guy?

These prices are based on what people are paying for these items, BUT OK YOUR USHANKA WORTH ONE BILLION BUDS because the bible says it, even if no one is gonna pay you that.

do i have to tell you again why people are not willing to pay more?? i mean wtf?

They are not willing to pay more because the hat is going down in value, simple as that

exactly.. but why is it going down in value? becouse some poeple are saying that it sucks, taht is cancerous.. etc. And if the best offer was 18 why are you giving price range 18 - 24 why don't you just put it on 18?

>Say you got offers of 25 keys

>Be selling for 23 keys

Okay.

Also, if you set a price range on here, that is because people DO buy at that price. If they aren't paying that price then the price goes down. It is also seen that some unusuals go up, because people do pay more. Learn how the site works before complaining about it please.

Enough proof to upvote

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8602020

That's all I'm gonna say. Sorry, but downvoted for now- The current range looks just fine.

Thank you good citizen!

A single counter proof that is 1 month old suddenly nulls two 25 key b/o's.

Thank you for the counterproof but i guess that this one is a little outdated considering that the actual buyouts are 25

Oli and Rough have a point. Everyone uses unaccepted offers to lower the prices of unusual hats, and as a result the prices are always a bit low. That and the Key->Bud problem.

Note how the suggestor has a bunch of unaccepted offers that would suggest the price is lower, however, the only confirmed trade posted so far seems to show that the current range fits much better.

--@Suggestior's above post -- The last update on this hat was 8 months ago. A trade from 1 month ago is perfectly fine.

How is the current range better? The 29 high sounds kind of wrong to me.

Well the only confirmed sale is 1 bud (27-28 Keys at the time of sale) and you're suggesting that the hat is worth 24 keys at best. The old range is better than your range.

The old range my not be perfect, but I said that it fits better than yours does.

Two 25 key B/O's, both unsold, hence the 24 high.

One sold for 27-28, hence that range is wrong.

I made a suggestion for my Searing Swagman's not too long ago. Had I used your thinking, I'd have put the incorrect range of 2.3-2.8, since there was an unsold hat with a B/O of 2.8. However, I did the right thing and found COMPLETED trades to base my suggestion on and found two more trades, both of which sold for or got offered 3 Buds.

Had you done it, you'd probably not have put in the effort to find the closed trades that had been done, just like you'd done here, and gotten a lower and incorrect range, also as you did here. The only real proof on this suggestion is a sale for 1 bud, why would you set the price lower than that?

Both 25 key B/Os are young trades- not even a week old, and even a week is short for unusual trading. One is already gone. This is why you shouldn't place high range at the lowest current B/O and then set an arbitrary low range. Much like how arbitrarily high B/Os are meaningess, low B/Os don't necessarilly mean anything if they haven't been around for a reasonably long time.

Backpack.tf prices are meant to reflect trades, not untaken offers on young outpost trades. Closing for insufficient proof.