Suggestion: The All-Father at 8.55–9 ref

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The All-Father

Submitted Sat, 06 Apr 13 20:33:41 +0000 by ★ Disclxsc

21.81%

2 keys

8.55–9 ref

~4.78 ref

53 votes up

190 votes down

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This suggestion was closed Sat, 06 Apr 13 23:01:10 +0000 by An Average NTR Enjoyer.

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This is my first suggestion so please re-frame from snarly comments.

As we all know keys are on the up-up-up so as long as this item is priced as keys. so will this. ( this goes for other keys based items )

Why the all-farther?

Well the all-father can be crafted using metal. compared to essential accessories that cannot be crafted.

so it only seems fair to price promotional items such as the EA in keys as metal as no effect on its value. however craftable items such as all-farther should be priced in metal. to neutralize the effect of the key increase.

The odds on this getting passed are next to nothing. however I think the point needed to be made. I would provide proof but I don't see how its possible for this type of suggestion.

You need proof.

Like this counter proof: http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/647/6/0 - many at 2 keys

i think you miss the point. i'm not raising the price. i'm just changing it to ref.

Still, you need proof to do so, you can't just change it to ref. without showing that people are selling at ref. and not keys.

And who buys at 8.55-9 ref?

You need proof even to change it to ref. If you change it from 2 keys to 8.88 refined, backpack.tf needs proof.

what kind of proof? people willing to take it for metal as well as keys? such as 2 keys or 8.66 ref?

"The odds on this getting passed are next to nothing. however I think the point needed to be made."

You admitted that this suggestion is simply to prove a point. I suggest you close this or face a possible ban: http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/603-dont-use-suggestions-to-prove-a-point/

I'm not really bothered about getting banned from bp.tf. i don't make suggestions and iv never seen this been brought up.

So what makes it a good idea for you to bring it up?

is there a fixed way to craft it like fez or it's randomly crafting !

I'm sorry but this is really dumb, Downvoted

refrain*

I understand where you're coming from OP, but the value of Keys hasn't gone up all too much in the past months, but the value of metal has gone down. True, It has become cheaper to craft these more valuable hats, but they have also become less common to craft because of new craft hats entering the system. There are also much better alternatives that you make if you want to gamble in TF2.

You know the price will just drop now relative to keys every time the key price gets changed instead of rising relative to refined every time the key price gets changed. You didn't stabilize the price, you simply made the price decrease every key change instead of increase.

I know but the all-farther has been 2 keys when keys were 3 ref. Just does not seem right to me. If it was a promo then fine. but it can be crafted with a free currency.

Current price of keys according to backpack.tf is 4.22-4.33 refined. Multiplying each end by two would make the suggested price to be 8.44-8.66 refined. Therefore you are not simply converting to refined and are in fact raising the price with no proof. Therefore I am downvoting.

Fair doo's

Hmm, actually it seems the 4.33-4.44 refined key suggestion was accepted. I hadn't really noticed that. I supposed that would make the conversion 8.66-8.88 refined, but there'd still need to be proof to prove that this item is more commonly traded for keys rather than refined if you would like to make a conversion.

yer i agree. changing craftable items currency to ref. just seemed to make alot for sense to me. either way i'm not fussed.

Some other conversions you should get around to doing:

• Doublecross-Comm

• Dashin' Hashshashin

• Cockfighter

• El Jefe

• Buck Turner All-Stars

• RoBro 3000

• Merc's Muffler

• Kringle Collection

• Last Breath

• Quadwrangler

Price of keys doesn't matter. If you're going to pull that one then you have to go change everything that is priced in keys, like Bills Hats. Good luck with that.

Fact is these sell stupidly easy at 2 keys, no matter the key price.

I think you missed the point. you cant craft bill's

For me, this is a waste of space, and it saved much more backpack space, keys are one of the main currencies, so thats why if an item has the eqivalent of a key, the price is changed to 1 key until the price changes.

(Insert snarky comment here)

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/647/6/0 - many unsold for 2 keys, 9 ref is a bit high

Also, please refrain from using suggestions to prove a point. The forums are available for discussions.