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Uh... excuse me but WTF?

my suggestion (closed): http://backpack.tf/vote/id/515e3febba25360a4a000017


past suggestion (accepted): http://backpack.tf/vote/id/515ca7e0ba2536dc09000003


please, take your time and compare them. you might want to learn a few things from the accepted one, seeing that those are the suggestions that get accepted. *add sarcasm here*


so yeah, i'm re-submitting. hopefully the admin will see the light.


breackdown of past accepted suggestion:

"ALMOST ALL ARE SELLING AND BUYING OVER THEN 0.33 REF" (yeah, i'm sure the caps-lock will get you point across)


0.66:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9537509 (no adds for 0.66, offers for 0.22-0.33)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7731120 (no adds for 0.66, much mockng for 0.66 price, offers for 0.22)

0.44:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9798278 (add for 0.44 lolwut?!, offers for 0.11-0.22)

0.33:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9785279 (offer for 0.22, add for 0.33)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6368386 (adds for 0.33, offers for 0.22) (heads up, has been up for 4 months)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9781750 (unsold, offer for 0.22)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9795133 (closed trade, no messages)


"and many many else" (*others)


"it's really hard to buy it for 2 scrap" (imma prove that wrong real quick)


http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/241/6/0 (last i checked, 2 for sale for 0.22)


All successful buyers for 0.22 (or possiblly less):

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9409714 (1 add)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9329684 (bought 3 full games)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9398632 (3 adds)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8542491 (3 adds, closed offer for 0.33)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8446062 (3 adds, closed offer for 0.33)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5949738 (been up for 4 months, bought 63 duels games all under 0.22, recent add 2 days ago)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9206127 (2 adds)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/3626777 ( 1 add for 0.11!)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9607913 (closed offer for 0.33)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7064678 (4 adds, most recent one 1 week ago)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7545676 (recieved ads and donations, most recent 3 days ago)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8415746 (bought 5 full games for 1 ref!) (me)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9304201 (many adds, most recent 1 day ago)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9314986 (delined offers for 0.33, add for 0.22)

http://www.webpagescreenshot.info/i/53867-47201334215am.png (bought 2 for 0.22)

http://bazaar.tf/trade/143048 (declined offers for 0.33, 2 adds for 0.22)

http://bazaar.tf/trade/143628 (offered 0.27-0.33)

http://bazaar.tf/trade/102545 (1 add for 0.22, declined offer for 0.33)

http://bazaar.tf/trade/156246 (many adds for 1.5 scraps or less! (depends on amount of duels in game)


Conclusion: Though, it is indeed possible to sell duel games for 0.33 but buying full duel mini-games for 0.22 is still common and should remain in the price range. Thank you.

    .33 flat is good.

    Dont know why you had to re do it.

      this, I sold bot of my duel in less than 1 bump(one don't even need a bump) for 0.33 like a piece of cake.

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9877518

      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9830404

        The range IS including .33, and he provided proof of .22. If you can buy/sell quickly at this price then it is 99% accurate.

          I didn't buy them at 0.22. I got them as sweet and I have no seat selling them at 0.33 and if anyone can sell it that fast then why would 0.22 be in rage.

            Because he did provide proof for .22, that's what I was saying.

              Some ppl manage to buy hats for 1.22 ref as well. We don't put those prices up here now do we?

                Because the majority of trades happen at 1.33+. If it were enough worth noting (like half of these duel sales going for .22) then we would include 1.22. Another reason (in my opinion) is that they're jackasses trying to lowball and back it up with "firm prices."

    This seems to be a better price range, and it has more proof than the last suggestion, I'll upvote.

      I can sell my duels for 1 rec in no time and very easily, even duels with less than 5 remaining uses go for a rec. I don't think this needs a change.

        yeah, you CAN sell it for 1 rec, but you can ALSO sell it for .22. that is why there is a RANGE.

          Still it's going to be a downvote from me because i sold too much of these for 1 rec.

            did you even read what i said? there is a range because you can sell it at .22 OR .33. what you said is like saying "we can sell it for 1 bud, but we also can sell it for 25 keys, so i guess we should get rid of the low range and just make it one bud"

              I perfectly read what you said, but why selling a duel (even if it hasn't 5 remaining uses) for 2 scraps or less when you can sell it for 1 rec without problems ? In other words, range is useless.


              Its like you said "Hello i'm selling keys, they're priced at 5-5.33 (very soon) but screw that i'm selling them for 5", while you can get even more than 5.33.

              Its like you said "I have an unusual (1.5-2.6buds) and i'm selling it for 1.5, who wants to take it ?"


              If you meant that people can SELL duels for 0.33 but also can BUY them for 0.22, then you're right.

                Most of the 0.22 buyers are quickbuyers or are getting barely any duels recently and most of these 0.22 buyers resell with ease for 0;33

                  i mean that people can sell them for .22-.33 but they can also buy them for .22-.33


                  an almost direct quote i heard from another user "the high end of the range should be the highest ammount players sucessfully buy/sell at, while the low end of the range should be the lowest ammount players sucessuflly buy/sell at" i see that players frequently buy/sell at .22-.33, so the range should be .22-.33

            That's like saying "yea, you CAN sell it for 1 bud, but you can ALSO sell it for 25 keys". Well... of course you can...

              Give the guy a break, he probably meant "Buy." If it's easy to buy for .33 and yet still very possible to buy for .22 and vice versa, then why shouldn't it be included in the range?

          I have bought MANY duels for 2.5 scrap, so I will upvote this one for sure. :)

            it got closed, and you're redoing the suggestion with the exact same proof? why would it get accepted now a few hours later?

              Nice shitty attitude you have. And your proof stinks downvote

                Speaking of downvotes...

                  That must be a topscore of people disliking a comment.

                    Long got -188 on a key suggestion IIRC.

                    His comment was "[x] value, tf2finance says hi". I forget the exact wording but it was basically that.

                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9537509 -- offer of 1 rec and maybe sold, more proof of .22 offers/sold?

                  lol, Long said 'no' to your last suggestion and therefore it was closed :P

                  Anyways, gl with this one

                    The force is with that one

                    if anything i think this should rise but thats just my opinion

                      Why? There's an increasing number of them and it has medium demand

                      I am one of the proofs for succesful trades at 0,22ref, so I feel I should weigh in here.


                      Before the trade here that has been up for 4 months, I had another similar one that was nearly as old. I duel a lot and as a consequence, I buy dueling mini-games frequently. Between something like october - february, I always bought more duels than I could consume, because the adds were so common.


                      For the last two months or so, however, it hasn't been the same. Adds through that trade are more and more rare, and I actually seem to get more donations than anything else nowadays (that shouldn't be considered in the range in my opinion though, since these are just generous people wanting to help me go higher and higher in the all-time dueler list)


                      So, with a heavy heart (since I buy these all the time to use them myself), I agree that the price should not go back to 0,22-0,33.

                        He did provide proof that .22 is happening. Maybe you're just unlucky, but buying for .33 is EXTREMELY easy. I've had 3 adds in the past 12 hours buying for .33. It just takes more time to get them for .22

                          Yeah, you raped me at dueling yesterday you are really good. You night not remember though.

                            Your nickname is vaguely familiar :)

                          0.33-0.44 ref

                            "The new keys.'

                              basically, what people think when they encounter a dueling minigame: hey, this thing is kinda rare, but i probably won't use it since it's basically useless. i might as well sell it to someone for a quick 2 or 3 scraps. and the chain repeats indefinitely...

                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9329684 2 adds in 3 weeks

                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8542491 3 adds in a month

                                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8446062 3 adds in a week, best one yet.


                                It seems that it is very easy to get .33 out of it. Being able to buy for one scrap less is very normal, I don't see why it needs to go back down.

                                  wait... all your proof is FOR the .22 range..... but what you are saying seems to be AGAINST the .22 range... did i read your post wrong or something?

                                    No, I'm saying that its difficult to buy at .22, as seen buy only 3 people adding him in a month, Still possible, but its a quickbuy.

                                      i think that if you get 1 or more add every week and a half (right about where all these are) you are in the right range.

                                        With collector items, yeah thats right, but with extremely common items like this, buyers usually get at least one add per day, especially with autobump.

                                          i have only seen these items twice in game, it does not seem that common to me

                                  I would think 0.22-0.33 should be the new price. Lots of people are selling at 0.22, and buying at 0.22 anyway

                                    autism pls

                                      Why hasn't this been closed?

                                        Who cares about 0.22 - 0.33 or only 0.33 ? The price should be 1 weapon for 1 use, but I don't understand why people speak about a scrap difference. Since many months I'm buying all my duels for 0.05 per use and no problem with it, it's a very smooth price.

                                          You just provided proof for the .22 side... 5 x .05 in metal math is 2.5. Therefore, without the other proof he has provided, the price should be 2.5.

                                            Yup, the median price.

                                          but we are saying about one dueal or 5-duels pack ( as usualy it drops ) ?


                                            The full 5 uses, just like other action items

                                              ok, thanks

                                            are we going to start a war for scrap?

                                            it is possible to buy them at 0,22 but if you have more than 1 add every day for 1 rec why to change a price? it s pretty normal that people are so dumb and sell crafthats for 1,22 although you can sell them at 1,33 with no problem.

                                            you posted enough counterproof - 0,33 seller is out of stock, adds for 0,44 and lots of rejected 0,22 offers so 0,22 seem to be quickbuyer price

                                            actually if you have suggestion up for 3 days and it doesnt get accepted there is something wrong with it

                                              You have clearly proven that Dueling Mini-Games are being bought at 0.22. While the majority are still going for 0.33, your evidence shows that a price range would be more appropriate. For that, you get my upvote.