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http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/5633/6/0
2 unsold at 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9869086
unsold at 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9874961
unsold at 20, no offers
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9848495
unsold at 20
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9832524
people wiling to sell at 17 and 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9820939
many people wanted to sell theirs for 18
sorry there's not an abundance of proof, but this item is still quite rare, and it gets used a lot. Als 80% of all sellers still want 1 bud+ and buyers buy for under 15 keys. These trades are the only reasonable ones on outpost. I hope this convinced you guys that 20 keys just isn't possible anymore. You're always welcome to post additional proof, and even counterproof.
range would be better
I thought so too, but there just isn't a range. No sellers above 18 get anything and buyers below it don't get it either. On trades saying "lowest offers wins" many have an offer of 18 but none have one of lower. Therefore I believe there just isn't a range for this item, surprising as it may be.
should be 17-18 because unsold at 18
Agreed, I think we were all expecting this.
I sold mine for a level 0 v. trophy belt + a pink camera beard, and it took under 1 hour.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9901047 - http://i.imgur.com/uU5bhsR.png
And your 20 keys unsold ones are still rather new, 1 and 2 days old.
Wow, I didn't know that rare Vintages could be used as proof in counter-suggestions! The more we know each day...
I'm just stating that 20 keys still might be possible, since he only has 2 links of fairly new trades.
And also, is this a counter suggestion?
I can't see other suggestions for this right now.
And a lot of things can be used as proof or counter proof, since almost anything has a price.
You shouldn't value rare levels based on backpack.tf, it's a pre-calculated value that doesn't have any previous trades to vindicate it.
No, but still, if I manage to sell it at 19 or 20 keys, then I would have perfect counter proof.
That's the thing, it won't sell for 19 or 20, I just took a quick look and the closest thing I saw to a real offer was 10 keys.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8878244
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8646787 - Offered 15 keys.
And how do you know that there isn't closed successful trades at 20 keys?
After all there exist 84 of them, so a lot of them aren't on trades, since the people who bought them at asking price might like them a lot, you never know.
Downvote, its a good price but way too firm, Should be 16-18 or 17-18 In my opinion if they are unsold at 18
but there's no proof of 16 or 17 keys
downvote sold 8 at 18-19 keys past 2 days
the 2 classifield listings were mine and were only up for 2 hrs only reason i was selling at 18 was cause i needed keys faster. gj getting proof. ><
my counter proof
http://i.imgur.com/8cGCR4T.png - sold for invis watch + crate 50 (19 keys)
http://i.imgur.com/aeHdiXh.png - 18 keys
http://i.imgur.com/tOCG0Lx.png - 80 ref ( 18.5-19 keys)
http://i.imgur.com/5TUkn4T.png - 18 keys + 4 ref
http://i.imgur.com/ovOx7qG.png - 19 keys
http://i.imgur.com/316KlUV.png - 19 keys
http://i.imgur.com/yD9Dfji.png - ~19.5
http://i.imgur.com/juxpu6d.png - 19 keys
I'm suggesting 18 and got some proof of the 19's?
put my sales from past 2 days. i sold them basically within 1-3 hrs each. tho do agree 20 keys is prly hard. so ill make a new suggestion with my proof
I sold mine yesterday for 20 keys after having it up for only about 2 hours. Unfortunately the person who bought it didn't post before they added me to buy it.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9887183
take a screenshot like i did. go to inventory in steam and right top corner you can see inventory history. if its legit ill close my suggestion
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f143/Budi1782/BaconGreaseTrade_zps22645f31.jpg
Hopefully this upload works. But here's the trade history.
OPs 4th proof is my trade, I have sold 3 at 20 keys and 1 at 21 (said I could keep a key change for a bud). I have had a number of people add me at 20 keys whilst I have not had any in stock.
So its a downvote from me for the moment.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9820939
Trade has been up 3 days and has gotten 3 adds. Not bad at all.