Suggestion: Strange Dead Ringer at 1.5–2 keys

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~1.85 keys

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This suggestion was closed Thu, 11 Apr 13 22:46:18 +0000 by An Average NTR Enjoyer.

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The constant raising of the key price by this website has caused items that are priced in metal like this dead ringer to be undervalued. This item also shouldn't be priced in metal anyway since its most commonly sold as keys.

Proof:

1.5 Keys (my trade already has 2 adds but both haven't been online when I was) rejected 6.33 Ref on mine btw: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9963163

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9959397

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9965817

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9971007

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9956755

1.5 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9939123

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9653887

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9982632

1 Key 3 ref each: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9923395

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8693310

1 Key and 3 Ref: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9952821

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9932520

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9868603

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9656029

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9215736

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9980399

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8825046

2 Keys with name tag: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9941528

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9941831

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8999797

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8670625

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9976426

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9738941

1.5 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9948867

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9931219

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9930912

2 Keys rejected 6.66 Ref: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9661245

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9853758

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9873147

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9931655

1.5 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9749739

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9959254

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9957174

1.5 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9894344

1.75 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9885829

1.75 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9942675

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9831067

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9969593

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9916163

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9731966

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9872593

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9843896

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9898077

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9900456

2 Keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9908596

Well based on the overwhelming amount of 2 key posts for the strange dead ringer this item obviously needs a price increase that actually reflects the ever changing(growing) price of keys.

if in keys, then i would say the right price is between 1 and 1.5 key. cause tf2outpost price always is either higher than actual value(sellers) or lower (buyers).

Can you link more people selling at 1 Key than my 2 Keys please? I count over 30 trades asking for 2 Keys.

Tf2oupost is always overpriced. Btw for your information. Lots of buyers want it for 1 key. And lots of sellers want 2xkey. So right price is between 1 and 2 key, not between 1.5 and 2 key.

Btw in the "proof section" you need to provide not the "Offer price(2 key)", but actual trades where people bought these items @ price you have listed there.

If outpost is always overpriced, how do items go down in value?

TF2oupost:

Seller's Price is always HIGHER than actual value of item. While the Buying price is always Lower than actual value of item.

Link one sold for your price of 1 Key?

read again what i have typed. "right price is between 1 and 1.5 key". I didnt say price = 1 key.

Link multiple 1.25 Key sold, ur 1.25 key price is also lower than current price just saying...

I'm not the one who opened this suggestion. The one who created suggestion need to find "proof", not me. You have opened this suggestion for public voting. And people can type their opinion about this. I have typed mine :).

Btw i found few people were offering s.deadringer for 6.33-6.66 ref. Which is current price on backpack.tf

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9436144[/url] (6.66ref)

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9379580[/url] (1 key + 1 ref)

and a lot more..

But no one actually buys them at 2 keys. People asking for 2 keys doesn't automatically mean the price is 2 keys. It's just outpost being over-charging.

Sold 2 within my price range and above current range: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9731966

Another sold look at history: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9908596

The guy who bought it, is willing at 6 ref. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9977726

On 1st page - trade asking 1.75 keys, no offers:

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9874343[/url]

Conversely, what if it has caused items priced in keys to be overvalued?

Regardless, selling does not mean sold.

How about some proofs of those being sold for that price? So far I found only 2 or 3 on your list. (Or if there's any would be good to sort them out)

Sold 2 within my price range and above current range: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9731966

Another sold look at history: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9908596

As I said, it would be interesting to sort those trades out, specially on the first post to keep it organized.

Oh so since you didn't open suggestions you throw out your random/unsupported ideas of 1-1.5 Key dead ringer that is below current price. This thing called counter-proof helps if you want to say Im wrong Lemon.

found lots :D of offers <6.66 refs on tf2outpost

Read comments in threads and you will find them

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/96477250/[/url]

Wow both links 3 weeks old. Thank you for the up to date info. Also have many have they actually bought for this price? Because you've clearly linked two quick buyers I mean 1 key for a dead ringer...

read replies, which are only <1 week old.

Don't link me quick buyers please.

Then don't link me 2 key sellers please. Cause Noone will buy @ 2 key price, maybe only 1 in 100 buys it.(same applies to quicksells)

Your words: Link multiple 1.25 Key sold, ur 1.25 key price is also lower than current price just saying...

Also i didnt say anything about 1.25, i said only right price is somewhere between 1 and 1.5 key. There was no mention about average.

I linked about 35 2 key sellers to your 2 1 Key quick buyers...I wonder which is more accurate. Get 33 more 1 Key quick buyers who are getting dead ringers for that pirce and I will close this suggestion for you.

between 1-1.5 Keys is 1.25....What is your price then if your saying 1-1.5 is 1.25 and that isn't good?

Arithmetic mean of 1 and 1.5 is 1.25.

While "between 1 and 1.5" might be 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 ,1.4 and etc.

I just don't want to search more. There are actually even lower price offered to buyers(<1 key+1Ref) if you look more carefully.

And actually you are doing this suggesting thing for yourself[you got 2xs.dead ringer], not for me or anyone else. Same applies to me, but actually i have less interest in this than you. + Thank to you i have found some really good offers from the sellers on tf2outpost search "wtb s.deadringer"

This is all what i wanted to say :). Your 2 key range + lots of 2 key "proof" made me to type all this thing.

2 Key sale: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9284590

Good job providing counterproof.

Thank you sir

How the hell is that counterproof nobody bought the dead ringers!?!

The fact that it's unsold for three weeks should say something about the suggestion.

It has been sold if you look at the item history...

i think more than half of them isnt sold yet. downvoting unless there is more proof than counterproof

Eh I don't see how this for myself I have one dead ringer with 4k on it that I bought when this was one and another I just got and am selling for 7 ref soo I don't really need this suggestion I just saw that most were going for 2keys.

Another sale about to happen within my range mine: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9963163

You sold it for 1.5 keys which is within the current range (1.5+4.44=6.66).

This proves nothing at all.

1.5*4.44=6.66 I meant to say

Ehy, sold to this guy for 2 keys- He was offering 2 keys btw :

http://www.tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9309743

I've been selling these for 2 keys for quite some time, i think whatever the range 2 keys must be included. Sold prolly 4-5 for 2 keys, over the last month.

Ive bought over 20 at 5.66 ref since the last price change, and im still having trouble at selling them for 6 refined. Most of those 2 key sellers havent actually sold.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9992602

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9593921

What a bunch of links. Wouldnt it be better to sort out the sold ones? There are some. It´s like pressing the "search OP" button and you provide more counter than pro.

No offers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9902798

Seller in the range

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9968878

quicksell 6 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9992602

range offer

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9941935

above range but item overpay

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9974713

offers at low end of range

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9653887

adds but no confirmed sales, offers below or at range. one of original eight in offer has moved on

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9232797

2 weeks and no real offers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9600213

Also, there are 16 pages of people selling s dead ringer. It looks to me as if sellers haven't realized its not worth what they want. Glut available.

Listen you have no sales at 2 keys. All you have is sellers and they can ask for whatever they want.

Also, just because it is in the key area, as in ref, doesn't mean that it gets that price. Many items are getting pulled into ref pricing as the key rising. Its nothing new. In Jan Teufort Kickers were 2 keys. Now 4 ref.

1st link- 4 day old trade will sell in more time

2nd link- 1 seller in current range compared to what 50 in my range?

3rd link-An irrelevant 6 ref quicksell wow

4th link-2 days not enough time

5th link-only 1 day

6 th link-unsold but I have posted several links for 2 keys sold if you actually looked the posts ive made after suggestion instead of being so quick to judge

7th link-First off the top left dead ringer has a new owner so please check that before you claim no confirmed sales. I also actually added that person personally yesterday and asked how many they had sold and they told me "enough" so I decided not to link his trade.

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/59/11/0 6 of them available at under 2 keys. I'm going to downvote since most of the key sellers have not sold.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9895553 http://i.imgur.com/Sbszphl.jpg I had an offer of a strange shotgun for mine and just sold one for 2 keys. Still not sure if 2 keys sales happen enough to warrant this price.

i managed to sell 2 for current range of 6.66 but it took me about 3-4 days to do it

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/59/11/0 - http://i.imgur.com/R9h9zCz.png - 8 for 1.5 keys or slightly less, 4 for sale between 1.5 and 2 keys, and 5 unsold for 2 keys. I don't think 2 keys should be the high range just yet

I see you have used my trade as proof, well let me tell ya that the two that I sold were about a week ago I believe. After that I haven't been able to sell at 2 or recieve any offers of +1.5 keys. Sorry, but it seems this price isn't suited for this strange atm.