Suggestion: Strange Flare Gun at 5 ref

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Strange Flare Gun

Submitted Fri, 12 Apr 13 23:13:41 +0000 by ★ emilitwo

65.96%

5–5.33 ref

5 ref

~2.63 keys

498 votes up

257 votes down

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MANY unsold at 5 refined, almost all at 5.33 are unsold

5 refined unsolds:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9783701

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10030927

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9979303

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10010142

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9964951

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9904003

5.11 refined unsolds:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9892181

5.22 refined unsolds:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10027335

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10007407

5.33 refined unsolds:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10030698

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9944848

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10031835

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9189867

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10021449

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9589599

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9800083

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9944848

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10001254

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9987606

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9873664

Many more unsold 5-5.33 refined.

Search for yourself:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/97107870/2

However, not many are for sale under 5 refined, so I cannot put a low value on. (That I found scrolling through though anyways)

BTW-I currently DO own 1, idk if it updated

EDIT:More links

MANY unsold --> showing 4 links. Well that's not many, considering there are 10 pages on op.

Those are only the first few, scroll through the pages, its just the same.

I don't have time for that now...

I added more

lol no way.

Majority of your proof is as new as a few minutes, why not find more proof yourself?

I have added more links and am adding more.

Yep, that would be better.^^

Did you just comment to make it look like someone else approve this suggestion?

Using me as proof is valid however keep in mind that it does come with strange parts which only a certain few would be interested in so that's why it hasn't sold.

Actually, using your trade as proof is invalid, as its not unsold at 5.33, but at 18.88 ref.

@OP, im gonna have to downvote, the counter proof shows that it can still be sold for 5.33. And if you check your own proof, some of the links under unsold for 5.33, are now sold.

your 5 ref unsolds:

first link:week old comment about 1 key + 2 rec, when keys were at 4.33, so idk whats going on there

second link: less than a hour old

3rd link: last comment says add for flaregun

4th link: 22 hours old

lol I love how you're being immature and disliking my comments!

The first link is at 5 ref. Please check your "proof".

yes 1 key(4.33) + 0.66 is 5 ref, and the guy offered, but the trader rejected.

4.33 was a week ago as I said in my first post(which you obviously neg'd)

HECK EVEN THE SECOND TO LAST COMMENT SAYS ADDED

and the key unsold is sold, check his backpack and item history

5,11 hasn't been bumped since creation

Go to this link. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9783701

And tell me again.

5 refined. Unsold.

The guy who added probably wanted a lower price.

Have it be sold, prove me wrong, then i'll believe you.

The guy rejected a 4.33 item that is in great demand + 0.66, which is 5 ref

THAT MEANS HE a:either wants metal or b:isn't actually selling at 5 ref

yes it is unsold, but he's rejected 5 ref.

so go prove me wrong and then I'll believe you

Im not arguing for/against him, just saying, probably wants metal.

Checking links:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9783701 Had an add one day ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10030927 Very new

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9979303 Sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10010142 Sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10027335 Sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10030698 Very new

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9944848 No bumps in 18 hours, user is offline

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10031835 Very very new

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9189867 Has been buying and selling for over one month. He has told people to add him without commenting if it's for the Flare Guns, so cannot be sure how many people have added him recently.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10021449 Newer trade.

Make of that as you will.

Some of the things you said are sold are not actually sold.

Also, I added some older links.

Which ones that I said were sold are actually unsold? I checked BP's and item histories to see what was and wasn't sold.

Sold two yesterday. My price was 1 key + 1 refined. The first fellow wanted to use metal, I told him I was treating keys as 4.66 ref and he used 5.66 refined. The other did the stated 1 key + 1 refined. Ignored one trader wanting to do 1 key + 0.66 refined.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10013249

Both went rather quickly, didn't do anything besides put up the trade and let autobump do its work.

Edit: To be clear, haven't looked at the trades here. Just chiming in on my recent experience selling them.

Your first link has a willing buyer and an offer of 1 key + 2 ref (over 5 ref)

Second link is only an hour

Third link has a willing buyer

Fourth link is sold

Fifth link is only 6 hours old

Sixth link is only 1 hour old

Seventh link is good

Eighth link is 25 minutes old.

Ninth link has a willing buyer, but the seller is never online

Tenth link is only 8 hours old

Seeing as only one of your proofs is valid for a 5 ref flat price, I'm downvoting.

Downvoted.

Get a better backpack and I'll upvote you.

What does my backpack have to do with upvoting?

People with more money are almost always correct.

Not true at all.

Say I spent $5000 on this game and make crazy prices for everything. Does that make me correct?

But better people don't do that.

Look at Long, one of the best suggesters this site has.

Before the unfortunate card incident (which he was a victim in), he had several thousand dollars, and had the most suggestions accepted out of anybody. Prove to me that the rich people here aren't any more correct than the poor people.

Look at hugh jazz then, a backpack on around 250 dollars, but he still is the second best contributor.

Backpack value has nothing to do with upvoting or downvoting, or how good you are at suggestions.

I have a backpack on 200 dollars, minus 30 from a friends value, so around 150 dollars, but I'm still in top 25 on the list.

I'm just saying, having money makes you more right.

Im not saying rich people are worse/better at suggesting. I just say it shouldn't be a factor in voting/downvoting.

The first thing I did when I saw that you suggested was I looked at your backpack. I saw that you have hardly anything. Say you're a racecar driver, but you've got a shitty car. Would I want to bet on that racecar driver? No, I wouldn't. By doing this, I've maintained at least a 70 percent rate of being correct in terms of voting accuracy.

Don't do this for your own selfish voting accuracies.

Do it for accurate prices.

I am.

This is just a way to signify a bad suggestion

I like how all the poor angry people are downvoting my comments.

Yes, feed me more downvotes.

I love them.

I like how no one has realized that you're just joking yet

70 percent isn't even that good a ratio.

Well that is totally a good reason for downvoting. /obvios

Hugh Jazz' bp for example isn't worth much either.

You kidding me? Outpost overpriced the crap outta these things. I bought mine for 1 key + 1 refined yesterday, and that was the cheapest I could find.

Yout first link "unsold" for the key...if you will click on the flare gun it will show that current owner is another person.It means that it have been sold,but seller left trade open for some reason.

Thanks, i'll remove.

This proof is terrible. Almost all have sold and the few that haven't either have offers at or above 5 ref, never were bumped, or are too young to consider it as proof of what they want being unobtainable.

I have older links.

Wow, a direct correlation between backpack worth and suggestion quality!

Where have I seen that stated?

Cmon man dun do dis to me i has one including its a rare item to unbox with

Sorry :( I have one too, im just trying to be fair.

This is all from your list of proof

Sold or have offers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9783701 Offered a key + 2 rec (5-5.22) yesterday

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9979303 Sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10010142 Not in sellers inventory

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9904003 Sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9189867 Sold it a month ago and hasn't bothered removing it from the trade

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10001254 Sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9873664 Sold almost a week ago

Too young or never bumped

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10030927 Under 2 hours old. Doesn't count. Its common for items to go unsold for more than a day on OP.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9964951 Never bumped. Unbumped trades rarely get attention so its really common for them to go unsold regardless of the price.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9892181 Like above, never bumped.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10027335 Only 4-5 hours old.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10007407 Never bumped.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10030698 Only 1-2 hours old.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10031835 Never even an hour old yet.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10021449 Less than a day old.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9987606 Never bumped.

That leaves you with 3 unsold links that aren't brand new and have atleast been bumped. But one of those links doesn't count because they are asking for 4 keys + 1 ref.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9589599

Here ye go

http://prntscr.com/10d5z4

Too much counter proof from other people about it selling for over 5 ref, voting against this.

Check for yourself please :) Then make the call.

Yes I did, the 5-5.33 range is accurate.

Check this out: http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/flare%20gun

3 listed at 5 ref, but if you check their backpack all 3 have been sold.

Also the 5.33 ref listed by Duckston Holmes 2 days ago has been sold as well.

As long as the opinion is your own, I don't mind. I just don't like people piggybacking off of other people's votes.

I can understand that. Good luck anyways, but I do think the range atm still applies. Since 5 ref isn't the norm but the exception.

I understand your stance.

For what it's worth, I sold two at 1 key 1 refined, and really fast as well.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10032895

Downvoted, your links actually have some adds/offers on then, It's pretty easy to sell for 1key + ref (from comments), and i have just sold 2 for that price as well.

This is definately a downvote for me, ill laugh if it gets accepted seeing as how quite a few of the suggestions on bp are being accepted when they definitely shouldn't have been.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10024645 Sold for a key + 1 ref (5.33-5.55)

Just so you know quite a few of your links have been either sold or have adds from the time you've posted this suggestion.

Think that's counter proof in itself that it still sells for a range rather than 5refs :S