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for the two sold at 36 on the other suggestion, there is no confirmation so...
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/142/11/0 34, 35
http://redd.it/1ccplp 34
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10058782
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10062934 35 still unsold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10059138 35 1 day
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10088510 34
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10068131 18 hours. best offer is 32
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10047080 34
maybe wait longer? these trades are quite young
how long the trades had been up doesn't affect if the sellers are willing to go even lower than the current range
It may mean that these people are quickselling :/ you know what w/e upvote.
Classified seller is 8 hours old
Reddit trade is 7 hours old
link 3 is a successful buyer for 35
link 4 is 1 day old
link 5 is 1 day old
Link 6 is 10 hours old
Link 7 is 1 day old
Link 8 is 1 day old
If you don't give an item worth 1.5 buds at least a week before calling it unsold you are doing it wrong.
I am of course willing to leave this open for a week to see if they sell or not, but you may want to find some better proof
What this suggestion trying to prove is that 35 is possible but so is 34.
the last link is completely false, it appears they were sold at 35 each
link 6 was closed and lowered in price http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10102451
Also, if b/o's are below the price (just like unusuals), then the price can be changed. You should know this already. Plus, earbud prices were changed almost everyday, I don't see why you're waiting for this when b/o's are in the new suggestions proof. Go look on outpost to find some counterproof before you decide to close this...
We don't list quicksells here; a few desparate buyers aren't worth changing the price over.
If they don't sell quickly that means they aren't quicksells, and that's why I'm leaving it open.
That's why there's over 20 trades at 34 keys. I don't get what you're saying, 3 days isn't quick unless it's an unusual.
I don't get what you're saying--the s gunslinger is worth as much or more than a huge number of low-mid tier unusuals.
Long didn't post 20 trades he posted 7, and that's what I'm going off of
Yeah dude, i'm not stupid. There's 20+ trades on outpost for 34 keys.
How do you explain the 34 keys with this current 35-36 one.
Show me counter proof that says that you are able to find someone who sold their Gunslinger for 36 and then i'll show you the people selling for 34 keys.
Actually, the proof is right there. You're lucky to get 36 keys and it's far easier to get one for 34 instead.
If they're so easy to find then help long and myself out and post them :D
Not in the last 24 hours, and most of the list prices are in the current range or above.
now in classifieds there is too one a 33 keys..
I sold one for 36 keys last night.
http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2trade/comments/1chj2y/store_the_return_of_nicks_bargain_backpack/ at 34.
i saw one selling for 32 keys today. i guess he sold it since you didnt use it as proof
I ended up selling this one ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10078393 ) for 34 Keys, after trying for a day or two for 35.
So upvote from me.
People flagged you because they don't want the price to drop lololol (I sense -5 dislikes).
lololol I want this price to drop
....what do u mean no confirmation? from my suggestion:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10043586 (sold, item not in bp anymore)
According to Mexican Citrus, he sold his for 36 keys.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10054568 (sold, item not in bp anymore)
Sold one of two for 36. My more recent sale was for 34 though.
EDIT -- To clarify, the 36 sale was... early Saturday morning iirc. Had SPs worth like 3 Ref when they weren't used, but one was pretty useless for a melee, so I'd value the GS itself at 35.75. The 34 sale was today.
ok, so 34-36 would be a better range
please ask crosss-country mexican circus how much he bought those 2 for? That should help long218 out.
He bought for 31 keys range so according to your theory the range should be 31-36?
here is proof: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8619385
quickbuys dont count as proof
He's saying what you're doing here... you got one trade and rely on price.
Read my post below. The sell for 34 happened, the buy for 31 would be insane.
So the real difference here is one person is using actual trades and one person is using false information.
There's like 4 on classifies for 34 keys (not sold), not 31 keys, i don't care about the 1 buy at 31 keys, neither the buy at 36 keys. When there's b/o's of 34 keys still on the market for 3 days (just like earbuds price), it's going to be the low margin since people are paying for it. 35 keys is a price that's harder to sell and would be the high margin. Look at his proof.
Once again people are terrible at finding real prices. I bought them for 34, then lowered my price to 31 because I dont want to deal with selling them atm.
I'm about to put a notice on all of my trades that I update prices, seeing as this has got to be the fifth time in the past week they've been used as support for an incorrect price, seeing as 31 keys would be an insane price to buy for.
Stop buying and selling to yourself then ^^?
How unfortunate that people are letting go of these for a lower price. I'm glad I sold mines for ~41 keys in items 2-3 days ago.
Shouldn't you be providing proof of it not selling at 36 keys? If you're not going to do that shouldn't your range be 34-36?
Also I'll share the sale I put on the other suggestion:
Sold this on Saturday for a bud + 13 keys when buds were around 25 keys:
http://imgur.com/bMQ77Ta
saturday is so last week.
the market now change prices every couple of hours.
I sold my gunslinger 36 hours before this suggestion was made even if that was last week. And that's how markets work; prices change all the time, but that alone is not proof enough to change prices. Long's other suggestions have been correct, crate 30 stranges have seen a drop in value recently and he provided good proof in those suggestions.
I should add that I'm not saying my trade is a reason to increase the price: it was a one-off fluke, nothing more. However it may be proof that sales higher than 35 are doable.
I agree with what Gen Moi Kai and Cleverpun say; these are high value items and a one day old trade is not really proof of anything. It usually takes me as long as 5 days to sell at the high end of a bp.tf value but if the item needs a downward price change I won't be able to sell it at that price at all, as happened last week with my Strange Kritzkriegs and, funnily enough, my Strange Gunslingers.
i agree with you, my comment was against this crazy "change every day price". It's doing more harm than good, and increasing prices of keys.
Ah fair dos. Although I'm probably one of the few people who doesn't really care about price changes like keys rising or buds crashing. These things just happen.
just sorry for new players, it will take them a while to get keys.
That's a fair point actually.
Yeah nice post. Wow. Who did you sell a strange festive to for two buds? alt maybe?
Strange festive for 2buds/50 keys. wowzer
Ha yeah I wasn't gonna argue with him, I assume he wanted to get rid of his buds.
But no it wasn't an alt. this is the guy here: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198076309911
Although it seems that this guy has it now: http://www.tf2outpost.com/backpack/304921
just checking through the trade dates, these are a DAY old, I cant see why people are saying unsold for 35 keys when its only a day old! cmon people get it together, give people time to actually sell them THEN make suggestions about new prices. dont just jump ahead and try and lower the prices!
except than once its bougth from outpost, it dissapears and cant be tracked, unless it is a trade involving more than just the gunslinger
true yes, but when a trades been open for a day or less you cant really say its unsold for this price, thats all im saying
Two weeks ago this was one of the hardest strange items to find. I guess in the last 24-48 hours everything changed. Lol. Look at more than outpost, and use a week as a reference not a day.
yeah a week is better than using a day, for the reason being: people who use Backpack.tf see the new price and want to sell for that price, but for those who make a suggestion saying that they cant be sold at that price forcing them down, the sellers end up having to drop each time due to people accusing them of overpricing their items. its never ending till people are happy with a price that isnt fair on the sellers. I may have a s.gunslinger but i dont plan on selling it any time soon but seeing the price keep dropping its unfair to those who do want to sell it
Can anyone from the admin team verify if any of these votes are from the same ip? if not, worthless votes and suggestions across the board. Doesnt take a bunch of rocket scientists to place bad objects everywhere.... Or does it......
there are 650 votes... no one gonna maipulate that much vote on a single suggestion
650 clicks is not alot. None of the clicks are verified in anyway when completed. No authentication prior to clicking other than cookie login. Wow. Seems TF2 is riddled eh :S
What i find the most upsetting about this economy is you use a open/closed window from none verified profiles and text on a none verified site as a price guide.... Yeah Sweet ^^ Just because something doesnt sell doesnt mean its not worth it. I understand this now. Same as il only ever get an unusual if i trade one from a VMB :D
According to my readout only 2 pairs of IPs are duplicates.
Hardly enough to skew results
man you deciphered the servers apache log pretty quick. you are pro uber admin :D
Or I read the automated list that the site spits up because I don't know how a computer works :P
Server= the guys hosting this site
Apache log= Apache being what most servers run, the log being what's going on.
So, he's saying you were able to pull up the list of everyone who voted on this suggestion via the Server's log remarkably quickly, given that it can take some time to sift through it looking for duplicates.
I'm assuming Brad then has it as a moderator tool to look at the logs for votes, in a fancified version.