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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10058032
got an offer of 16, but on this trade http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9862950
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9945477 offer of a stormy nano if I add like 2 keys (about 20 keys with overpay)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9386608
got offered big kill
To be honest, I bought it for 12 keys plus an upgrade to premium (14.5 keys). http://imgur.com/qKu6tKl So no, this hat hasn't sold for less than 14.5 keys recently. Bumping up the low end and raising the high end, I would never take 16 keys for it. 18 keys is within the reasonable range.
No proof for 18 keys.
I would never let it go for 16 keys, and just because people lowball doesn't mean that should be accepted as the high end. I REJECTED 16 keys, meaning that shouldn't even be the low end for this unusual. Burning Flames TC's may not get the 180 bud offers it's worth, but good luck finding one for less.
I wouldn't call that lowballing considering it's in the current range.... just because nobody offers your 18 keys, doesn't mean they lowball.
Maybe not lowballing; it's a decent offer, I'm not denying that, but I would never let it go so cheaply, either. Also, an orbiting fire mongo (far more common than peace, and new effect so new ones will pop up on the market constantly) is marked at the high end of 18 keys, so this is more than reasonable for that, too.
Price already went up yesterday anyways. 18 keys is too high based on your proof and this kind of seems like an act of greed, considering you own the hat and you are allowing slight price error in your favor.
avery how do i see already sold items
Well, until someone actually pays or offers 18 for this thing, then we can't put 18 keys in the range. Please resubmit this later if you get offers of or a sale at 18.
I must have added like a bud to your backpack value yesterday as you own all cancer unusuals in game it seems, and now you're hating on my suggestions? But for real, you got no proof that 12 isn't possible anymore and that 18 is actually possible. Until you provide proof of that, which you won't as you can't as there isn't any I downvote.
Where is YOUR proof that is CAN be bought for 12? There have been ZERO SALES in the past few months that show it goes lower than 13. Also, the 16 keys was from a guy that said it was a starting offer. ANY unusual can sell for at least 12 keys, there are seas of BMOC trades for any unusual (13 to 14 keys currently). 18 is more than possible; orbiting fire, which is AT LEAST equal, if not quite lower has a high range for 18. A better effect that is far rarer has no reason to be lower.
Bmoc is 12 actually, and opinions on "better" effect don't really matter. Rarity doesn't dictate price either. If there would be 4 nandb tc's its price would still be lower than burning
16 is an outlier to me, I wouldn't have even included that..be happy with that range before people take a closer look, there is no way this hat is 14-18 keys, the mongolian is terrible
Prove to me it's been sold for less than 14 keys recently. I dare you.
prove to me it has EVER been sold for 18 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9812279 - you bought it for 13
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9385676 - b/o was 11 Keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/1204947 offer of 2 bills painted black and white (20 keys, rejected) [old trade, but this is when BP.TF wasn't up, which shows what people are ACTUALLY willing to pay, not what this website dictates people to pay'
there.
alright 1 year ago lol
You said ever, and I proved ever. Your points are invalid.
11 Key buyout 1 month ago
20 Key sale 1 year ago
how on earth do you have the confidence to say my points are invalid? just how? you have no point proving your high range, there is proof for the low one..you are butthurt you paid 14.5 for a hat nobody wants
I've been offered 16 keys, lol. I could have made 1.5 keys profit, AND sold the upgrade to premium package if I had wanted to, but I know it's worth more. And yes, your points are invalid. And two: I'm not going to sell for 16, meaning I'm looking for more. So yes, the higher range would be more than 16 keys.
Here's one from a very recent trade of mine http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9945477 offer of a stormy nano if I add like 2 keys (about 20 keys with overpay)
he didn't specify how much u had to add..another lie
Ever heard of private chat?
so I'm gonna have to believe that the only proof for your high-range that's less than 1 year old happened in private chat? hahahaha man you're a funny guy
http://imgur.com/qKu6tKl proving I bought it for what I said I did
I bought it for 14.5, so no, not 13.
I would have agreed with 14-16, 18 is too high for me to agree with.
Orbiting fire can go for up to 18, so this should be in the same area. Also, 16 keys was my first actual offer, 18 keys shouldn't be hard to get.
Yours is also lvl 100, so that may influence the price. Also the stormy nano said you'd have to add; not specifying how much you had to add.
It was 11-12 2 days ago, leave it.
It was highly inaccurate then, and still is.