Suggestion: Strange Widowmaker at 2–2.25 keys

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~15.25 keys

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This suggestion was closed Sat, 27 Apr 13 15:16:05 +0000 by Puddilicious.

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Last suggestion listed trades that said they had bought at 1 key. Price shouldn't be based on quickbuyers and what they say in their trades, it should be based on sellers.

Proofs for this range:

Selling 2 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10351349

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10253680

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10343154

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10365051

Offer of 2 keys - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9586732

Selling 2.5 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10299060

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9833421

Selling 3 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9389658

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10064297

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9933447

Selling 3.5 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10281729

Selling 4 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9586732

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9508904

Selling 5 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9530119

Selling 6 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9389658 (Sold 2)

Selling doesn't equal to sold. And a lot of your proof is 1+ week ago, which obviously had a different price than the price right now.

Not a single person on outpost selling at under 2 keys. I believe the price should be 2 keys flat.

Then make a suggestion of 2 keys instead of 2 - 2.25. Try look for some failed buyers under 2 keys though to prove 1.75 is impossible or very hard.

Went through every page of tf2outpost buying widowmakers.

I got 1 exception : http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10332806 (I know this is a sell trade, found this guy here : http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9954713 )

Not enough to justify a 1.75 Key price I believe.

True, so maybe start a new suggestion at 2 keys flat. Though if you look at classified there's an unsold widowmaker at 8 ref (1.64 keys) for 7 days so just take that in mind if you do decide to start a new suggestion.

Added that guy plenty of times. He won't add. Added absolutely everyone selling under 2 Keys.

Now I would like to ask for active 1.75 Keys trades which could not sell.

only 1 proof of raising and its 1 week old

2 keys is very easy to sell at. (Just sold one and in the past weeks i sold 20+) But i dont know if it goes over 2 keys

I am not so sure of this suggestion. There are plenty of successful sales at 2 Keys. Not a single person selling at under 2 Keys. And most over 2 Keys haven't been sold.

I would recommend a 2 Keys flat suggestion.

These are buyable at 1 key!

Give me as many as you like at 1 Key mate. Will buy :)

How about check out outpost before making a claim?

I bought one for key. Sadly, I traded it, so I can't prove.

I will stay neutral with voting.

Actually I don't doubt you one bit. You most probably did buy it for a key. All I ask for is proof other people have actually managed buying these for 1.75 key even.

Counterproof

Sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10373453 (Team Captain) ~1.05 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10365921 (6.22 ref) ~1.1 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10367534 (1.6 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10330358 (1.75 keys)

Unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10332806 (1.4 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10372165 (S. Shotgun) ~1.75 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10364937 (S. Shotgun) ~1.75 keys

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/527/11/0 (1 at 8 ref, 1 at 8.66 ref, 1 at 9 ref, tons at 2 keys)

Please give us sold proof of keys and metal(for a price of 1.75) and not of items.

The only real counter proof :-

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10332806 (1.4 keys)

I have added every classifieds guy selling at under 2 Keys when I was buying these at 2 Keys. They do not add you and thus do not count as proof.

Main counterproof is that there are so many in the classifieds at 2 keys. This suggestion is going above that, and thus obviously wrong. Oh and what's wrong with the 6.22 ref and 1.6 keys ones?

Dude if the classifieds guy don't add you and/or don't take out their classifieds then how can this change? If I put up a classified for 1 key and then don't add anyone what does that prove?

You obviously don't understand what I'm trying to say - so many 2 keys. I could probably spam alot of 2 key trades from outpost.

So if you can spam a lot of 2 Key trades then why should the price be 1.75 Keys?

They're unsold...

Doesn't mean that they don't sell at 2 Keys. Cause the proof says so.

Or rather the fact that they DO NOT sell for 1.75 Keys.

Also by that logic Bill's Hat should be priced under 8 keys because there are hundreds selling it at that price who haven't managed selling yet?

How is my proof invalid again? Also, bill's hat are completely different. You can't use them to compare.

Ah, I see the bias here. How much did you buy all of yours for?

Oh great. So those are different. We are going into a whole new intellectual level here.

You didn't prove anyone selling at 1.75 Keys so where is the proof you are trying to validate?

Ask any of the mods here. They will tell you the same thing.

Oh great! ANYWAY I don't think this can go down a reasonable path so had fun having this conversation :)

I see my proof at - lets see - 6.22 ref, 1.4 keys, 1.6 keys, 1.75 keys & S. Shotgun. Note that S. Shotguns are easy to get at 1.75 keys.

And to get rid of your bias, how bout putting some proof of your own?

Also, just don't compare anything with bill's.

Too bad you bought yours for 2 keys each. You could have been patient and put up your own trade buying for 1.75 keys, or even lower.

6.22 Ref seems to be a quicksell not valid according to mods.

1.4 keys as I have already said is valid.

1.6 Keys commented here too. Valid but may still be considered a quick sell.

1.75 Keys are in items thus an overpay be expected?

All I asked you to show is a few guys who managed buying for 1.75 Keys. I scanned every post on outpost buying. No luck except your 1.4 guy.

1.75 Keys doesn't only suggest that it MAY NOT be sold for 2 Keys but also that is CAN be bought for 1.75 Keys. As of now there is absolutely 0 conclusive proof that it can be bought for that price.

the 3 link is of my own trade

sold it for 1key+3 REF

proof -->

http://gyazo.com/3a55c287bf5321edca190567f66f20c1

Wait. How does this prove that the price should be low? As a matter of fact if I buy at 3 Keys should the price be that?

It is the mass market which counts.

i dont care about the market or this suggestion, someone has put my trade in counter proof, and i put the screenshot as proof i sold mine per 1key+3 REF

Actually I could just see that by clicking at your widowmaker at outpost. It is owned by somebody else(Clone).

any buyers at 2 keys? or any sold at 2 keys if not downvote

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10184640 Sold : 7

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9877133 Sold : 7+

At the 2 Key price.

hmm ok how about people buying?

No one at outpost managed buying at 1.75 Keys. I have seen some done trades at buying at 2 Keys. No active trades buying at 2 Keys(probably cause there are sellers at that price already).

I feel that it is very important to note that there are no "unsold" trades at 2 keys. All of them are fairly recent, suggesting that they sell at this price.

If I were to make a new suggestion at 2 keys, would that be more accurate? I feel many good points have been raised the reflect the price of 2 keys.

I would recommend you do so.