Suggestion: Bill's Hat at 7.75–8 keys

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Bill's Hat

Submitted Sat, 27 Apr 13 12:57:46 +0000 by ★ sitebender

35.06%

8 keys

7.75–8 keys

~3.65 keys

88 votes up

163 votes down

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Keys rise, everything else falls. There are 60+ bills being sold for 8 keys and 400+ outpost listings in the 8 - 10 key range. Current price is 8 months old and the price hasn't gone up or down. Since it hasn't gone up...

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/bill%27s%20hat

A few Bills at 7.75 keys one is unsold for 2 days

TF2WH has 245 of them >> http://www.tf2wh.com/item.php?id=126;6;41a9136100e6471add3ae1e87c82cbd5

People selling for less than 8 keys

#56 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10337172 >> 7 + 4 ref << 1 day ago

#116 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10372498 >> 7 + 4 ref

#0 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10360074 << 7 keys + 3 ref

#144 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10355983 >> 7 <<<< 7 keysssss

#152 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10338246 >> 7 <<<< 7 keys 1 day ago

#253 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10055976 >> 7 + 3 ref

#19 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10293366 >> 7 + 3 ref

#25 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10264109 >> 7 + 3 ref

#78 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10285674 >> 7 <<< 7 keys

#115 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10352512 >> 7 + 3 ref

#230 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10236646 >> 7 + 4 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10345739 >> 8 keys but scrap metal with every purchase? from a day ago

If you want to see a bunch of Bills unsold at 8 keys just check classifieds >> http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/bill%27s%20hat A few unsold at 2 - 3 days even 4 days. An unsold pink at 8 keys.

Now for some of the unsold unpainteds at 8. that are over a day old with autobumps

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10200781 >> 8 keys 1 week ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10268351 >> 8 keys 4 days ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10302850 >> 8 keys 3 days ago (looks like it had a buyer 19 hours ago)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9942849 >> 2 weeks ago? huh?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10318762 >> 8 keys 2 days ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10296305 >> 8 keys 3 days ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10130902 >> 8 + 3 ref = TS Bill's 1 week ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10223417 >> 8 + 2.33 ref = TS Bill's 6 days ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10222653 << 8 keys painted 6 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10148024 << 8 keys 1 week ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9972884 << 8 keys pink unsold for 2 weeks (but no auto bump yet just bumped)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10357633 << 8 keys 1 of 3 sold in a day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9872694 << 8 keys 3 weeks old people offering 7+ keys for it

>>> edit >>>> Oops the last one should have been 7.75 - 8 keys. Not a flat 7.75 that would be silly. I needed to do the low value first then the high value and not the other way around.

These are all quicksells...

Quicksells that haven't sold in a day :-) One hasn't sold in 3 days.

Most of them have sold...

Yeah I guess pointing it out just makes people buy them and flip them.

but still,, marry me </3

Again...you need alot more valid proof :S

Current proof suggests 8 keys is correct, most of your trades have sold or have adds...

In the previous suggestion you stated that a bills may take awhile to sell. Why? I thought it was currency. Exchanging currency shouldn't be hard.

yellow belt, you know better.

Sometimes it takes a rookie :-) to find what everyone just assumes.

7.75 keys as a value is just flat out awkward. What is that even? 3 ref + 2 rec + 2 scraps? At least have a meaningful range if you are going to do this. Like 7.8 keys for 7 keys + 4 ref.

and 99% of traders on outpost still accept a bills as 8 keys...

Then why so many not sold and some for very long.

i am talking about high tier items like strange kritzkriegs and unusals. on 99% of those trades it is clearly stated, "Bills are accepted as 8 keys."

It is a convention. Also, if a change is passed then they will something like bills priced at 7 keys.

I am working on the same thing. Pain in the *** because of how many bills owners trying desperately to get keys that no one will pay. 400 posts for a single item and unlike key suggestions there aren't many buyers. Upvote.

I will either contribute to this or start a companion suggestion

Quicksells. I've sold 5 or 6 TS bills for 9 keys 1 ref no problem. This definately won't pass.

Hmm not that hard to sell, ive sold quite a few white/blacks for 10 keys and it normally takes 1-2 days :S

A little harder at + 1 ref but possible.

Hmmm sure, maybe your traders got too annoyed at you typing in caps? It doesnt highlight any point of your argument and makes you seem more like an annoying prick :L

Maybe try underlining instead? type in [u] and [/u ] without the space, try it out :)

http://imgur.com/8wtks9Y

http://imgur.com/j331PtC

http://imgur.com/pqjfDJF

You can search up my old trades on outpost if you believe im lying/forging which is what "CAPSLOCK" here is trying imply and trash talk everyone lolol

Glad to help :D

Many sellers don't find this to be true

http://i.imgur.com/yfXAh7Z.png so hard

Pics can be forged. I thought it was for 9 keys + 1 ref you only show 9 keys... Liar :-) Where's the trade on outpost?

9 keys + 1ref happened about 1.5 weeks ago, too old imo

Stop shitposting, its possible to sell at 9.

I'm sure it is. That puts it in the realm of the 7.75 - 8 keys but again...

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10130902 >> 8 + 3 ref = unsold TS Bill's 1 week ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10223417 >> 8 + 2.33 ref = unsold TS Bill's 6 days ago

prove it

No fucking way

Absolutely disagree.

1. It is promo. There will not be more bills', only less. No reasons it to become cheaper.

2. It is easy goes for full price (and black/white for 10 keys, lime etc for 9 keys)

The only way to erduce price is to reduce it here. There are quickbuyers and they make their prices accordingly to the minimal one here. It is now with buds

I doubt black/white bill go easy at 10.

or lime or pink at 9

I saw plenty at <9.75 and <8.75 respectively.

There's a pink on here at 8 keys and I pointed out a pink at 8 keys in my proof. And yeah white/black I doubt go easy. Anyway.... off to dig up more proof.

There are always smb who have to get rid of something. It doesnt mean that prices are falling. I was buying, for example Dashins for 1 key and some ref and sold em for 2 keys 2,33 ref and everything was wonderful, but price fell to 2 keys. Somehow.

I totally agree its a promo item and should not go down. But I bought 42 of them since 1st April 2013, and in-countless numbers since I started trading ( proof: http://i.imgur.com/b23veYN.png , http://i.imgur.com/RBizgNL.png ). I am just wondering why would 42 people decide to sell there bill's at such a cheap prices just to me, in just 28 days, and there would be many and many like me on outpost who would have bought ridiculous amount of bills.

It would be still classified as quick-sell ? or this shows that the key prices are going up and article prices are relatively going down?

My fellow traders please advise otherwise.

^^^ you can't be alone. So many in WH, you can make good profit buying at 7+ keys and dumping into WH for 7.8 keys.

I wouldnt say what I did with them but yeah most of the buyers or sellers dump them into warehouse.

so you are telling me buds are not promo items ? i dont even know

They are promo, but unlike bill's there is wider range. Look: you are unlikely to buy bill for 7 keys, but 7 keys and some ref would be ok. In case of buds its different: when they were 24 keys, it was easy to buy em for 23 keys. And sell for 25, but because of sellers for 23 prices had fallen

Bills are 8 keys flat still.

They take longer to sell but they get 8 keys.

Its just getting keys have gotten slower on every item worth keys.

I see no reason to drop by a quarter of a key.

They should go down to 4 keys. Bills have been 8 keys since keys were 2.33. Keys have more then doubled and buds are losing value so billls should be too.

You understand nothing in prices, man. Key is, was and will be constant in it CASH price. But there are more metal, because of free accs.

Yeah. Bill's hats have been 8 keys since keys were 2.33.

What does that mean? It means that Bill's hats are a permanently currency in tf2. They can't go up or go down. Do you understand?

Normal Bill's at 8 keys is probably the easiest sell of my trading so far, and your "proof" only proves you wrong.

These are just one of the few things that aren't likely going to be affected by anything based on economic and market value. Downvote