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Unusual Safe'n'Sound Nuts n' Bolts
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i recently sold this hat with much trouble, it might be the only hat that doesn't clip with the hair but its really not all that desired, iv had much trouble selling this off for 2.3 then 2.2 then finally 2.1, then i just gave up and had to sell it as a quick sell.


heres my trade with no good offers except the stormy reg(which isnt so good as well)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9879257


and my other tf2 tp trade that had no offers what so ever


http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9343123


other trade owners who have had this hat up for sale for weeks some months and they remain unsold(few notable,2 buds and 12 keys/NnB modest ,offers but all are outdated and old),some have not even been offered on at all.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10395295

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8671251

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10135073

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10403622


i also have been rejected countless times on trades made by other people but alas i cannot find them(if some one knows how to please tell me)

    your link 1 got an offer of a blizz berliners + planets jeepcap -- 2.3 buds

      as i said all those offers are old and no ones looking for that hat any more + that offer is in multiple unusuals, so its really no that much, its very low actually

        3 weeks isn't that old as the last suggestion was 2 months ago

          ok then it might not be old(i disagree) but he was paying with multiple unusuals, that's very low for a multiple unusual offer...., and even if you forget that, the fact remains this: no one wants this hat for that price,iv been trying to sell it for too long and no one wanted it.

            if you take in unusual overpay,

            berliners -- 1.3-1.6, take 1.4 from the middle x 0.9 = 1.3 buds

            jeepcap -- 1-1.3, take 1.2 from the middle x 0.9 = 1.1 buds

            1.3+1.1=2.4 buds

              Take minimum price not mid, and I don't consider unusual overpay as 0.9 of the

              Price that's to little, and even then it is multiple cancer'ish hats.

                that's how unusual overpay works though

      Hair-clipping hats don't matter at all with the Engineer. He doesn't even have hair, you silly. :P

        Lol no I meant the misc :3 the moustache and the hair.

          Oh, the Brainiac Hairpiece? Yeah, that clips with all of the Engie's hats, except for this one and Texas Slim's Dome Shine.

            Ye, Texas Slim's Dome Shine is *ehem* a "hat" XD

        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8671251 refused 2+ 12 a month ago


        All engine hats take forever to sell. You only gave yours 3 weeks, from my experience selling a sns in a month is about average.

          Just because I refuse an offer that doesn't bulk up my price, it just makes you look unreasonable, if I get a NnB ketche and refuse 16 keys that doesn't mean the hat costs more, it just means im insane. +I addressed this offer in the description and it is an old offer, you will no longer find any one offering this.

            I disagree, refused and accepted offers are how value is established.


            To me this seems like you are too personal in this one. You seem really bitter or something about this hat. Engine hats are weird to sell. You get no offers for weeks then bam, out of the blue you get a decent one. That's how everyone of my engine hats was sold, and they all took about a month to sell too.


            I'm saying the 2.5 offer is still relevant, taken or untaken.

              This isn't really personal, its just , iv made very few price suggestion and i want to do the best i can with those i DO end up doing.

              I see your point about the price establishment , although i disagree, if i was a monopoly with this hat that would have been correct, but i was not thus (hypothetically) if i reject this offer ( which i would have taken the second i saw ) some one else would have taken it.

              And the reason i stick by what i said is because i had this hat, and b/o's are set at 2.3 currently, and we all know b/o are NOT the actual price, people will gladly sell this hat for 2.3 even 2.2 ,except for the few people who still own this hat and cannot recognize the fact that they're hat is dropping and is undesired.

                i agree that at this point 2-2.3 is probably right. I don't see any 2.3 b/os though.


                There's a "QS" for 2 and a 2.5 b/o, the others want more. I think going all the way down to 2.1 might be a bit aggressive since the only sales data is your own which you said you quick sold.

                  I don't suppose you'l take my word for it, but iv tried selling this hat for less then 2.3 a lot, as it says in the description

                    lol this is a pretty long conversation