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Sellers:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9915154 -- (b/o: 4 keys) -- (2 keys + 2 ref -- 2.4 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10125726 -- (b/o: 5 keys) -- (bp expander -- 2.5 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8777683 -- (offer of 12 ref -- 2.5 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9623821 -- (b/o: 3 keys) -- (gold botkiller sticky -- 2.5 keys) -- (tyrannus -- 1.66)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10458096 -- (offer of 2 keys in items) -- (1 key)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10398135 -- (offer of last breath -- 1.8 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10065517 -- (b/o: 3 keys + 2.66 -- 3.6 keys) -- (offer of 1 key)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10476373 -- (b/o: 3 keys) -- (2 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4110825 -- (offer of 2 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4648665 -- (offer of 2 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10194654 -- (sold for g. brigade helm + tux - 2 ref -- 2 keys)
Buyers:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10008883 -- (bought for 2.5 keys) -- (people still willing to sell for 2.5 keys but he isn't buying any at the moment)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9981174 -- (bought for 2 keys + 2 ref -- 2.4 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8836634 -- (bought 5 for 2 keys) -- (willing to sell for 2 keys + 2 ref -- 2.4 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9900016 -- (willing to sell for 2 keys + 3 ref -- 2.6 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9814588 -- (willing to sell for 2 keys + 2 ref -- 2.4 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10041480 -- (bought a few for 2 keys + 1 ref -- 2.2 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8538452 -- (bought for 2 keys + 1 ref -- 2.2 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9060702 -- (willing to sell for 2 keys + 1 ref -- 2.2 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9791267 -- (willing to sell for 11 ref -- 2.3 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9936502 -- (bought for 2 keys + 1 ref -- 2.2 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7612943 -- (willing to sell for 2.5 keys) -- (Willing to sell for s. holiday punch -- 1.5 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9714175 -- (bought for 2 keys + 1 ref -- 2.2 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9355600 -- (bought a few for 2 keys + 1 ref -- 2.2 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10122811 -- (willing to sell for 2 keys + 4 ref -- 2.8 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9978058 -- (willing to sell for 2 keys + 3 ref -- 2.6 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9355600 -- (bought for 2 keys + 1 ref)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10041480 -- (bought for 2 keys + 1 ref)
Unsold:
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/669/6/0 -- (9 at 3 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10543053 -- (b/o: 3 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10546811 -- (b/o: 3 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10566117 -- (b/o: 3 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10573174 -- (b/o: f. rocket launcher -- 3 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10574126 -- (b/o: 3 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10543216 -- (b/o: 3 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10574121 -- (b/o: 2 keys + 4 ref -- 2.8 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10503071 -- (b/o: 3 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10573412 -- (b/o: 3 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10275445 -- (b/o: 3 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10272801 -- (b/o: 3 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9998663 -- (b/o: 3 keys)
many of the trades have 3 key offers, such as this one http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7612943
and this one: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10566117
this item is very easy at 3 keys and anything below is a quicksell
The first guy is buying them and all people will try for full price
the second one the offer is 31 min old but the suggestion is older
those aren't offers, they are just people selling for that price and the second link is retracted
Sry dude I disagree it very hard to sell for 3 keys pure, you can get plenty paying 3 keys in items though.
Upvote. I had a trade like this up for a week selling for 3 keys:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10359213
I only managed to sell it by swapping it + a few more festives for a lime B.M.O.C.
Festives are falling guys. You could easily sell one for 3 keys maybe two weeks ago but not anymore. Upvote.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10600952
support
thanks for that
Bought one for 2 keys 4 ref
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10600952[/url]
thanks for that
Some guy added me saying he'd buy for 3 keys, didnt have it at the time though. just putting that out there.
You look like you've put some time into this, but I have to down vote. Plus, using me as a link is quite useless. Nice try though.
why? because you own 9? and you bought them all for 2 keys + 1 ref? nice try though
I didn't buy them all at that price. I bought most of them for more. I had more than 9 too when I come to think about it. I was actually complimenting you for the time and effort you put into this suggestion, and it's quite funny because three idiots actually hit the "dislike" button too. Not sure where you are going with the "because you own 9 and you bought them for this price". Pretty sure everybody knows quick buyers are not reliable proof and shouldn't be used as proof.
Tuxxy, not Tux :p
whoops :P
http://prntscr.com/13indy
thanks for that
That's an awkward range
not really since .2 keys is 1 ref
oh, this is creative!
hehe :3
I never quite understood proof.
Offers and actually sold are different
Sellers:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9915154 - Highball outlier which doesn't support nor counter-proves either current range or your suggestion
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10125726 -Highball outlier which doesn't support nor counter-proves either current range or your suggestion
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8777683 - Selling as a set
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9623821 - Already sold, check history
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10458096 - Highball outlier which doesn't support nor counter-proves either current range or your suggestion
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10398135 - Highball outlier which doesn't support nor counter-proves either current range or your suggestion
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4110825 - Selling as set
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4648665 - Selling as set
Not seeing a bunch a willing sellers under current range in your links.
Buyers:
Soooo many quickbuyers/resellers.
I took the effort of taking away the resellers and just leaving in the quickbuyers.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9981174 - Appears to have bought one at 2 Keys + 2 Ref, not seeing any festive scatter in buyer's backpack nor any keys in seller's backpack. This may have to do with the trade being almost a month old.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10041480 - doesn't seem to be a reseller but buying at 2 Keys + 1 Ref is still a quicksell.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9060702 - Quicksell at 2 Keys each
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9791267 - Buying with metal at under 2 keys. This trade isn't even worth mentioning.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9936502 - Another quicksell at 2 keys + 1 Ref.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7612943 - Willing seller of 2.5 Keys offer. Only one worth mentioning as proof. 2 week old offer and buyer bever took it, buyer obviously keeps offer up to encourage lower offers for a quicksell.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10122811 - 2.8 offerer was able to sell his for for a bit more http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10552205. Only trade that really supports your 2.8 range.
Now for the real counter-proof:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10440310
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10501160
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10424489
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10520340
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10472793
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10531167
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10521957 - Scatter is in new bp
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10584287
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10566117
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10573174
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10574126
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10543216
Some of theses are from your unsold list.
Will add more if necessary.
Essentially, you need to provide a lot less quicksellers/quickbuyers and more proof of 2.8 buyers/sellers like this guy: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10579109
Sold 3 festives this last week at 3 keys.
Post links of your trade.
Here's some more sold at current range - all sold in a few hours:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10582534
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10588632
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10557728
I'm just not seeing 2.8 being commonly sold for. Just a ton of quicksells way under current range and many successfull 3 key sales.
All of your unsold is literally a day- less then a day old. And most of them has sold by now. And when did quickbuyers count as proof?
"And when did quickbuyers count as proof? " see response below:
Admins like cleverpun accept and use quickbuys, chiefshoe apparently is confused himself so as what to do and other admins havent given in writing what to do yet.
So in other words it really depends which admin decides on this trade , he can accept them or they won't. There is no hard and fast rule, just their mood, their inventory stock of the item in question and their own profits.
sold mine on the market for $6.94 if that helps
but still... only ONE for sale under 3 keys, and that trade was quickly ended. I am against backpack.tf being based off of quickbuyers.
b/o's are not really counted
the items are not even traded yet
lame ass proof
your just mad because you own one
Must...not..correct...
Your price suggestion is right
(I did the same one day before but got hard kicked by raging people)
UPVOTE
This is one of those cases of a few at 2 keys + 4 ref... vs 200 at 3+ keys. >>
#1 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10579109 >> 2 + 4 ref <<
#3 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10476373 >> 3
#11 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10606564 >> 3
#12 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10597263 >> 3
#14 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10584368 >> 3
#18 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10480559 >> 3
#20 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10606269 >> 3
#21 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10543053 >> 3
#22 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9623821 >> 3
#24 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9547304 >> 3
#25 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8563315 >> 3
#26 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10573412 >> 3
#28 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10505220 >> 3
#33 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10390825 >> 3
#37 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10531167 >> 3
#38 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10590730 >> 3
#39 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10588091 >> 3
#45 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9853987 >> 3
#47 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10559354 >> 3
#48 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10593690 >> 3
#49 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10519687 >> 2 + 2 ref <<
#50 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10275445 >> 3
#56 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10509722 >> 3
#60 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10075740 >> 3
#62 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10604963 >> 3
#63 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10605321 >> 3
#68 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10600952 >> 2 + 4 ref <<
#75 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10595694 >> 3
#82 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10560180 >> 3
#84 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10584287 >> 3
#89 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10579726 >> 2 + 4.33 ref <<
#91 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10440310 >> 3
#92 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10605661 >> 3
#93 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10100371 >> 3
#95 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10272801 >> 3
#99 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10593589 >> 3
#100 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10415209 >> 3
#103 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10590099 >> 3
#119 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10595037 >> 3
#121 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10605225 >> 3
#122 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9874955 >> 3
#123 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10565862 >> 3
#127 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9964920 >> 3
#128 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10569349 >> 3
#129 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10232774 >> 3
#132 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10598776 >> 3
#135 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10508355 >> 3
#138 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10599032 >> 2 + 3 ref <<
#139 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10571322 >> 3
#140 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10581779 >> 3
#145 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10563929 >> 3
#146 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10496960 >> 3
#151 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10509406 >> 3
#159 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10336608 >> 3
#160 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10452068 >> 3
#161 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10575303 >> 3
#164 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10524592 >> 3
#165 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10582380 >> 3
#166 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10594473 >> 3
#168 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10477750 >> 3
#170 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10447216 >> 3
#172 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4103080 >> 3
#173 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10495754 >> 3
#175 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10441595 >> 3
#177 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10562638 >> 3
#180 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10376513 >> 3
#184 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10485375 >> 3
#186 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9570400 >> 3
#188 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10555554 >> 3
#189 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10427694 >> 3
#193 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10540556 >> 3
#195 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10494558 >> 3
#196 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10534266 >> 3
#200 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10526035 >> 3
#201 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10524172 >> 3
#202 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10521957 >> 3
#214 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10437374 >> 3
#215 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10466000 >> 3
#217 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10405887 >> 3
#220 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10077250 >> 3
selling =/= sold as usual. likely those under 3 sell rather steadily but those at or above aren't selling very fast at all.
Also 3 is in the range
Yes I know 3 is in the range.
Just sold another one this monring at 3. Very easy to sell at 3, usually takes less then 4hrs or 8 bumps to accomplish.
just validiting everything youre showing
#1 supports suggested range
#3 got offer of g. shred alert + 1 key (3-3.5 keys)
#11 is still young
#12 is still young
#14 got closed in ~ a day
#18 sold
#20 is young
#21 supports suggested range
#22 sold between now and a month ago
#24 restocker, sold atleast one between now and a month ago
#25 restocker, sold one a month ago, and maybe more but no further written offers
#26 is legit unsold for a day
#28 is legit unsold for 4 days
#33 is legit unsold for a week
#37 has an offer of a f. rocket launcher (3 keys)
#38 is unsold for a day
#39 is unsold for a day
#45 is a restocker, no written offers 3 months long so who knows
#47 is unsold for 2 days
#48 is unsold for a day
#49 is selling at 2.4 keys and unsold for 3 days (why?!)
#50 is a restocker but sold atleast one a week ago
#56 is unsold for 4 days
#60 is unsold but has offer of g. shred + carbonado scatter (2,5-3 keys)
#62 is selling for 3 keys + 1 rec so out of current range (sitebender, you failed me)
#63 is young
#68 does have alot of adds while its only 18 hours old
#75 is young
#82 is unsold for 2 days
#84 had a willing buyer but owner took too long to respond
#89 is unsold at 2 keys + 4.33 for 1 day
#91 has a willing buyer
#92 is new and never bumped
#93 is a restocker and sold atleast one between now and 3 weeks ago
#95 is unsold for 2 weeks
#99 is unsold for 2 weeks, also renamed
#100 is selling for 3 keys + 2 ref (sitebender you failed me)
#103 is selling for 3 keys + 2.66 (failed me once again)
#119 sold in 12 hours
#121 is young and unbumped
#122 is unsold but was selling for 4 keys at a time
#123 sold for 3 keys
#127 out of stock (since when unknown)
#128 unsold 1 day but last bumped 14 hours ago
#129 is unsold 2 weeks
#132 sold in 12 hours
#135 is unsold for 4 days
#138 sold within 7 hours at 2 keys + 3 ref
#139 is unsold for a day
#140 is unsold for a day but last bumped 18 hours ago
#145 is unsold for 2 days
#146 is unsold for 4 days
#151 sold
#159 is unsold for a week
#160 has offer of key + 3 ref + tuxxy (2.75-3.something keys)
#161 is unsold for a day
#164 is unsold but has offer of apparantly 3 keys in items (not stated what)
#165 unsold 1 day last bumpe 1 day ago
#166 is same as #165
#168 unsold for 5 days, had an offer of 5 keys + lime/pink for scatter + f. rocket launcher
#170 unsold 4 days
#172 restocker, sold out at 3 keys + 1.33 somewhere between now and 8 months ago
#173 is unsold for 4 days, last bumped 1 day ago
#175 sold
#177 sold
#180 interesting offers, wants keys only
#184 denied 3 keys in items
#186 unsold for a month, last bumped 2 days ago (probbably half-assed trader)
#188 unsold 2 days, last bumped 2 days ago
#189 is unsold for a week, last bumped 2 days ago
#193 is unsold 2 days, last bumped 2 days ago
#195 is unsold 2 days, last bumped 2 days ago
#196 is unsold 3 days, last bumped 3 days ago
#200 is unsold 3 days, last bumped 3 days ago
#201 is unsold 3 days, last bumped 3 days ago
#202 is unsold 3 days, last bumped 3 days ago
#214 is unsold 1 week, last bumped 5 days ago
#215 is unsold 6 days, last bumped 6 days ago
#217 is unsold 1 week, last bumped 6 days ago
#220 is last bumped 1 week ago, unsold for 3 weeks
Still alot of sales at 3 keys, sitebender shows alot of unsold at 3 keys but most of them are either young, unbumped or sold. The ones under 3 keys get snatched up pretty fast so i think im going to disagree with this suggestion.
if you read through everything of this you get my respect.
Can't believed you analysed everything.
Must've taken lots of work.
That's why I don't go through said work :-) I show you the door you have to see what's inside.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10251660
Upvoted! :)
Had this trade up for one day +/-
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10493776
and also one on bazaar.
Had to end up being sold as sweets on another trade.