Suggestion: Strange Construction PDA at 8–9 keys

Price Suggestion

~96 keys

155 votes up

18 votes down

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This suggestion was accepted Tue, 07 May 13 00:19:56 +0000 by Soundtrack.

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Proof in comments:

Sold / Buyers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10574648 - Bought 2 for 8 keys in about 1 hour of posting this.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9546446 - Buyer, offered 8 keys + 4 ref, 9 keys, 10 keys (multiple times).

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10074172 - Buyer, bought for 8 keys (twice)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10005391 - Buyer, bought a few for 8 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9711886 - Buyer, bought a few for 8 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10338457 - Buyer, sold for 8 keys, offer of 8 keys + 2 ref.

Unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10588506 - b/o of 9 keys, unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10414724 - offer of 8 and 6 keys, unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10573403 - b/o of 9 keys, unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10576367 - b/o of 9 keys, unsold with offers of 8 pure and 9 (keys + items)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10525345 - b/o of 11 keys, unsold with item offers only

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10552642 - b/o of 9 keys, unsold with offer of S. Original

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10524706 - b/o of 9 keys, unsold with offer of 7 keys pure and 7 keys + items (est value 8 - 8.5 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10426535 - b/o of 10 keys, unsold with offer of 7 keys pure + sweets, S. Sapper + 3 keys (about 8.5 - 9 keys value)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10585624 Willing buyer at 9.5

I didn't see that one. Do you have any more counters beside that one? If so, it might mean I need to update the price. But if not, then I'll keep the range the same.

I don't have any more counters, this is just my trade. On a side note, your proof is (mostly, I'll give you a few) less than a day old. From my experience, good proof on stranges and uniques <20 keys needs at least a few days (around three) before being called good enough to be used for a price drop.

However, that's my experience with suggestions and pricing. I'm just saying that it might be a little better to find some older trades.

EDIT: I'll post my counters, if I find any, in a post below this one.

Does this count as a prove?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10567415

He's buying at 8 keys, trade is 1 day old; his backpack:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/backpack/26355

Bought a pda at page 1.

Btw upvote to you!

Yes it does, thanks for the extra proof :)

Bought 2 more under 9 keys (closer to the 8.5 mark)

http://i.imgur.com/HaZqMIa.png

They were flipped for 9 straight, after a little bit of work. I only did this to highlight the ease of getting them under 9 keys (less than 20 minutes apart).

Still going for 9-10 keys regularly. Unsold links are not proof of a price drop for an item at this price range. Downvote.

Do you have counter proof? Please provide some links.

Not even going to waste my time finding links for this.

So you're saying my links are wrong because you say they are. And offer no counter proof to my suggestion. If you had valid counter proof I would either take this down or update the price.

Seems like you're just trying to stop a price drop for an item you own.

Not saying anything about the links you chose to paste here. Is that how this works? Find the lowest links you can find and then submit a basement price suggestion? Saw four of these sell in the last 2 days for 9 or 10 keys.

Unsold outpost links alone are not proof for an item at this price.

That's how this place works. Someone offers proof, then you counter it. Here's more proof:

Sold / Selling

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9414776 - Seller at 8 keys

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9399107 - Sold at 9 keys

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9410023 - Sold at 9 keys

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9412990 - Sold at 9 keys

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9414701 - Sold at 9 keys

Unsold

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9392441 - Unsold at 10 keys

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9398752 - Unsold at 10 keys

http://bazaar.tf/trade/209723 - Unsold at 9 keys

http://bazaar.tf/trade/207706 - Unsold, offer of 7 keys + sweets, 8 keys in items (1 pure)

8 keys is very possible and 10 keys is hard to sell.

If you want to counter and say that something should stay the way it is, bring proof to the table. Your opinion isn't enough to win someone over. Didn't they teach you that when you had to write high school essays?

Thanks for telling me how this site works. Appreciate it. Doesn't this site also contain a classified section? 9, 9.5, 10, 10, 10, 11, 11, 11.

Thas was for disease, not you dark. Only one PDA in his price range on backpack classifieds, bazaar.tf or reddit tf.

Selling=/=sold.

That's like if I pulled all the collective B/Os from tf2op for any given unusual. All the unusuals would be about twice what they're really worth.

Not even close.

COUNTER PROOF:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10573642

-he had a buyer for 10, wasn't fast enough.

It looks like he still hasn't sold any. I'd say that 9.5 offer is the closest thing to good counter proof (I'm glad you know how stuff works on the site). If there was more I'd update, but it looks like it was just a one-off.

He (largeelvis) reminds me of the butt-hurt people on my S.Sapper suggestion (for 5.5 - 6 keys), telling me there's no way that price would go through.... and it did go through. :-P

Wow, you must have missed several of the first 7 listings on outpost. 10, 12, 10-11, 9, 11, 10. Very comprehensive price suggestion thread.

You do realize most outpost sales are hidden after completion, right?

Selling != Sold. I can list mine at 32 keys, but it doesn't make it worth 32 keys.

You do know that searching the history of the item and checking offers lets you see OP trades that are done, right?

Yep. Looking at some of the quicksell buyers who have flipped them for the current range right now.

I think the added on the 10 offer should count as a buyer as he was going to but (most likely) bought elsewhere.

And yeah, this guy seems to have no clue of how this works.

Backpack classifieds, including dark's (9 , 9, 9.5, 10, 10, 11, 11, 11)

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/pda

Outpost, what first 11 listings are asking/have been offered:

9 key quicksell -- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10588506

10 key offer declined, wants 12 -- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10479576

10 keys -- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10597073

11 keys -- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10324597

10 key equivalent -- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10324597

9 keys -- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10596318

9 keys, offered 8 -- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10552069

10 keys -- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10597073

10 keys -- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10543963

9 keys, offered 8 -- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10552069

10 keys -- http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10582728

Bazaar.tf first 3 listing prices (excluding the two who want a bud):

9 keys http://bazaar.tf/trade/209723

9-10 keys http://bazaar.tf/trade/204511

10 keys http://bazaar.tf/trade/199911

That is what people are asking without cherry picking for quicksell prices. Ill track the sales later.

You're still not even doing it right. Selling != Sold, at this point I was showing you could buy them at 8 keys and that it's a hard sell at 10 keys. Also keep in mind that offers with items are generally considered "oversell".

Proper counter proof would be you showing links of items actually sold (or offered) at 10 keys. Keeping in mind the time frame comparatively to the prices offered.

Like I said, I will track the sales when I get home later tonight and I will post everything, not cherry pick the quicksell prices.

Damn, I've seen users hate on suggestors for lowering the price of an item the user owns, but you... You go beyond hate and into stupidville. You also don't pay attention to what CDC says. You have NO LEGITIMATE PROOF, whereas he does.

hah correct :)

UPVOTE cuz this item needs another downgrade :) i was going to make that but wanted to wait a little after my previous vote.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10506245 i bought it for 8 keys