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Unusual Industrial Festivizer Burning Flames
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Last one before I'm off to actually play the game. Last update was 5 months ago

16!! trades on outpost, 13 different sellers. There's bloody one on bazaar.tf

http://bazaar.tf/trade/209131

no offers in 3 days.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10616870

selling as a set, but b/o for festivizer is 4. no offers in a day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6641141

b/o of 4, open for 5 months, recent offers of 64 keys + 2.55 (accepted, would be 3 buds, later hid by owner for some reason. offer of 56 keys (2.6 buds), some low unusual offers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10551630

b/o of 4 buds, offers of 2 buds + 5 keys (2.25)

bubbling bonk (2.5-2.9)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6758768

2 pure, some set offer, and an offer from banned user (didn't look at it, he's not a fair guy, so I couldn't count him)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10638733

b/o 3.5, no offers in 20 hours

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10191288

b/o 4.2, offers of g fetti bicorne (1.2-1.3) + g fetti tree (1.5-2.2) called good by owner, just didn't like hats

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9739810

b/o 4, open for a month, would also take the 3 buds offer of a previous trade, but was too late.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10555054

no b/o, called offer of cauldron scotch bonnet good (2.8-3.5) , didn't like effect.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10631432

no offers in a day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9575620

b/o 4.5, no offers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10601960

b/o of 4, offer of orb head warmer (1.5-1.8)+ crate 40, owner would take if he added a bud, meaning he'd do around 3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9638935

same guy again, offering 3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10142566

had a b/o of 4, sold for peace modest (2.8-3.5)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10331466

had b/o of 3 buds, 13 keys (3.6)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10377951

same guy, same b/o, sold for stormy festivizer (19-25 keys)+ 2.25

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10554946

b/o of only 2.5, sold within 2 days for unknown amount.


So, this is a hard baby to price. The 2.5 seems like an outlier to me, but several sellers would take 3, and one sold for that (peace modest) so that's my low end. With a b/o of 3.5 I couldn't exceed that. There was a sale for around 3.2, and some offers around that, I'll suggest 3-3.2


Thoughts/comments welcome

    Hi! I´m the guy who offered 3 buds in some posts and some of the owners accepted my offer (and now i own one). I´d love to see my hat rising it´s price, but, i don´t think the price should rise or low (since the offers rounds the 3 buds and the sellers are selling them for that price).

      Uhm, I didn't really understand you. Do you think it should rise more or less? There's no seller for 3.2, and you bought one for 3 (could you provide a screenie of that?). Some sellers would take 3, and the sale at 3.2 made that my high end. If you disagree, please explain why.

        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9739810 - Look at the coment of the owner.

        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10369321 - I bouht the hat from him.

        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10142566 - This guy told me to change my ref for keys and he would take the deal.


        And there was another man who took my offer but he was offline so i bought the hat from other seller. (I cant find the link in my offers).


        The thing is that i think that the price is fine. Most of sellers takes 3 buds for their festivizers but no one is looking to sell it for less. So seems 2.8 - 3.2 buds is a fair price atm.

          This is a bit funny, cause i´m loosing a good chance to high the price of my hat. If i didn´t comented, the admins probably would accepted your suggestion. But really, if you wants to high your rep, you should try to show proofs to change the range of the price of this hat (like 2.9 - 3.1 buds). That seems more accurate.


          Btw, sorry for my bad english.

            well, there is no proof at all of 2.9 There is however of 3 and of 3.2. Therefore I think 3-3.2 is accurate

              If you think 3.2 is a reasonable price, then can you show me an offer of 3.2 buds? or a rejected offer of 3 buds? I don´t think so. Most of sellers would be really happy with an offer of 3 buds (and even 2.9) and i showed you 3 proofs of that

                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10377951

                same guy, same b/o, sold for stormy festivizer (19-25 keys)+ 2.25

                this maybe, he sold for 3.2 a week ago

                  3.2 but not pure. Pay in unusuals = always overpay.

                  I used the low range as unus overpay, I could also use 90% of middle range,which, together with 2 pure and a #40 would give us 19 (or 19.8 you'd rather see me use 90% of mid value)+5 (maybe 4 because of items)+ 2 pure, giving us ....... 3 buds and 4-5 keys. 4.5/21.1 = .209 which I rounded down to .2

                  There's your proof of 3.2, WITH overpay calculated

                    Yeah man, i´m not saying that that guy didn´t offer 3.2 buds. But that 3.2 buds are not pure. If you can find just 1 seller who have sold his burning f. for 3.2 buds PURE, then you have my upvote and your suggestion probably will be accepted (since in this moment, you don´t have a solid proof). 3.2 buds in items is like 2.9 pure (or even less) for almost every trader

                    I think we'll live with the price being off by 0.1 buds. Consider this a price refresh.

                    No intentions in disturb, but this seems a crap suggestion for an user who has 96 accepted suggestions. You are just showing B/O, but i could publish my burning festivizer for B/O = 4 buds too. The thing is ¿are the users disposed to pay more than 3 buds for it? I don´t think so, since the only one who offered 3 buds on their hats was me, and i bought one easily. Sorry but crap proofs = downvote for me

                      I do not, I've shown a sale at 3.2, and that sellers would take 3, and are offered that. I also showed a lot of b/o's because there's a lot of them out there, and if I only provided 3 links, that would seem fishy. Go on with your downvote, nobody's stopping you. However, this is NOT a shit suggestion, even if I say so myself.

                        Sorry, but quantity is not the same than quality. I presented 3 solid proofs to show you that the current price is fair, but you showed me like 30 links with high B/O (obviously unsold) and no other guy offered 3 buds pure for that hat (as i did). The best way to protect your suggestion is showing sold festivizers for 3.2 buds pure, and i don´t see one of that in all of your "proofs"

                          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6641141

                          b/o of 4, open for 5 months, recent offers of 64 keys + 2.55 (accepted, would be 3 buds, later hid by owner for some reason. offer of 56 keys (2.6 buds), some low unusual offers


                          Do you know why he hid my coment? Cause when he added me i said "sorry already got one"

                          current price is fine? Where do you see any proof of 2.7????? So yeah, several sellers would do 3, hence my low end. But a buyer did 3.2, hence my high end. NO proof at all out there for 2.7 If you do have any, provide me with it

                            A buyer did 3.2 IN ITEMS, not pure, not 3 buds PURE. I agree, there is no seller for 2.7 buds, but there is not buyer for 3.2 buds neither. As i said before, maybe 3 buds would be the best suggestion for this item.

                            for the love of god, it's 2 pure and something like 1.4 in items. After calculating overpay that comes to 1.2 in pure. That's the way pricing works.

                              Alright. this is my opinion vs your opinion. If you are just giving me the example of a guy who offered, let´s say, 3.4 buds in items, why did you posted around 30 useless proofs?

                              I posted so many proofs because I always want to be complete in my proofs. I want to make sure I leave no trade out. That way some of my proofs are rather irrelevant, but it's just to show that I researched every trade, and that I'm not just cherry picking proof. That's why there's so many high b/o's with no offers/ no good offers above there. I hate it when people show only 20% of the sellers on unusual suggestions, to find out if another seller didn't get offered more/sold for less you'd have to search the whole of outpost yourself, whilst that actually is the task of the suggestor.

                                I know, but if i want to show people why the price of an unusual should change, then i´d give usefull proofs, not just a crazy guy who decided to offer 3.4 buds (a part in an unusual).

                      sorry guys, the offer and sale of 3.2 is not the peace modest, it's the sale for stormy festivizer. Sorry again, my mistake, not everything I do is perfect. Just check this link to be sure of that. http://backpack.tf/vote/id/512ff567ba2536794d000006