Suggestion: Sunbeams Bonk Helm at 69.75–80.65 keys

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~67 keys

sunbeams

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This suggestion was accepted Sat, 11 May 13 15:55:58 +0000 by Puddilicious.

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Hasn't changed much in the last 4 months.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10259431 B/O 3.8 C/O 3 buds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10369346 B/O 4, C/O Lime Max + 25 keys( ~3.5)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10140913 The previous owner of the trade above, if I'm correct it sold for KS Sultan+ Sweets (~2.4+ the sweets)

Was also too slow for a 3 bud + 6 keys offer.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10225310 Sold for a KS One Man army, Backpack.tf valued at 3.1-3.3 but seems to have later sold for ~4 buds.(so I'd value that at 3.6 with overpay).

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9351101 Sold for 3 buds + 10 keys + 2-3 keys of sweets. (~3.5)

In the end the previous seems to vary quite a bit, but from what I was able to find it seems easy possible to get it for 3.2 buds, with quite a few offers, and a few possible sales around that price, and 3.7 as roof due to the b/o , the one that sold for a KS OMA and the Max + Keys offer which can arguably be worth 3.7

Aren't all these in the current range?

The current price is 4 months old. Unusual prices need to be updated to remove the outdated marker which appears next to the pricing.

I guess I see your point.

I remember selling this for 4 buds pure. The 4 month old suggestion by me was 3.5-4

I was tempted to have the high end as 4, but considering the b/o at 3.8 and the no actual pure offer of 4 I couldnt justify it, although he did end up getting 4 pure for the OMA.

No, you have to remake the suggestion. The one with the b/o of 3.8 buds is duped, you can't use that as proof and it's probably worth 3 buds.

There is still no proof to justify 4 buds. Besides I'm quite sure most of it not all are duped.

The one with a b/o of 4 is also duped, so a duped one was sold for 3 buds + 10 keys + 2-3 keys of sweets.... If you use duped beams bonks for proof then you're lowering the value of clean ones which is why backpack.tf doesn't use duped items for proof unless no clean ones exist..

Can you show proof of a clean one? Would help if its clean and sold for more than 3.7

http://www.tf2outpost.com/backpack/245911 he owns a clean one. Might as well close it sense you don't have any clean beams bonks to use as proof.

By the way, don't update it if you can't find clean ones sold. Duped is obviously worth less and backpack.tf doesn't allow duped suggestions if no clean ones exist.

I sent you a link to a clean beams bonk helm by the way.

If you were able to provide counterproof that would show that a nunduped can get anymore than 3.7 I would close and keep the outdated price that is lower, but since you can't It needs an update to show that it is still pretty much the same price with a slight adjustment.

How do you know that? You can't use duped items as proof. It's better to keep the current price range considering that the price from my old suggestion uses proof from clean ones. You're valuing the price of the clean one lower. This is the same with a vintage big kill for example, duped ones sell for 12 buds, clean ones sell for 25.

Your logic is flawed, you even managed to give an example that proves how flawed it is. I'm not trying to be a douche or anything but you just compared a bonk helm to a vintage big kill.

If you don't understand how dupes affect prices than don't tell others how it works.

I've sold many many unusuals in the 3-6 bud price range that were duped, in mostt cases only a few people would care and they wouldn't buy it, but in the end most people don't care and offer on it just the same, and they would usually end up selling for the backpack.tf price or higher if the price is outdated.

Dupes only matter for prices on expensive items like big kills, houwars, high tier unusuals, etc.

In some cases people pay the full price for duped scorching/burning milkmen.

Point is dupes don't matter unless you can explicitly prove that someone will pay a significant amount more for a nunduped than for its duped counterpart.

Really should have kept this at 3.6. Buyouts mean absolutely nothing unless you're lowering the price, but this is close enough.