Suggestion: Strange Your Eternal Reward at 2 keys

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~5.35 keys

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I'm so tired, I forgot to set the currency right, fixed it, and new suggestion... I don't understand what the hell about 1.8 keys got accepted, these are easily sold at 2 keys. Now, I know what you're thinking. "OMGEE HE HAZ ONE, DWNVOTE!!!" Hear me out. This item sells for 2 keys easily, I've sold 2 for 2 keys, which is in the proof.

Sold at 2 keys:

http://imgur.com/jynonS4 that is my image, I sold one 2 days ago for 2 keys

http://imgur.com/3OckPo4 there is another, it is renamed, but is a s. YER, proof that it is a YER is here http://imgur.com/hJFQt02

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10688016 Sold at 2 keys, look at item history

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10745099 2 keys, YER is sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10346737Offer of 2 keys 5 days ago, look at the comments

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9490495 Look at edieman's comment, offered 2 keys 2 days ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10699631 Look at the item history, he no longer has it

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10321074 Once again, pay attention to the item history.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10596520 Sold for high-end, pay attention to item history

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10727208 Not sure if this is valid, someone commented saying he'd buy it, but still has it.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10590099 Look at the item history

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10731852 Look at the item history

Conclusion: I don't know why this item was reduced a refined. If needed, I will Post more proof, but there are plenty of solds at 2 keys.

I do agree on how the heck 1.8 got accepted. However, upvote proof looks good.

By eliminating the range, you need to prove that it's almost impossible to buy for less than 2, excluding the rare outlier/quicksell.

As "ThatOtherChigga™B>Gifted Items" proved, below, it's not.

any one can try to buy below the real price

you're just quoting what bobby said. and if there is enough people buying/selling for that price, it should be included in the range

First of all, there is no "real price". The real price is whatever people are selling them at. Backpack.tf only shows a suggested value. And he showed proof of people selling below the range, meaning, it's possible to get them at less than 2 keys. And he showed enough people willing to sell it at that price, to pass them off as mare outliers, so they should be included in the range

Upvoting on the basis of dafuq is 1.8 keys...

You have good proof too <-- saying that in case clever decides that "it should be forum material, seriously no one goes on forums, i agree on the new rule but seriously do you really have to warn EVERYONE?! someone got warned for saying "lmao"...really now really?!

Dafuq is 1.8 keys is actually pretty simple. 1 key and 4 ref, seeing as keys are 5 ref, (to make things easier) 5 * 0.8 = 4. Ain't math amazing?

And I think it's harder to prove no range, and from the last suggestion, it seems as though a range is very well possible.

Please show unsuccesful buyers for 1.8 or under

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10759441 unsold for 2 keys for 1 day

Counterproof

1 day, not old enough

enough for cheap item

Cheap is like a robocrate, and those have massive amounts of demand. These don't have as much demand, and take some time. Not valid proof.

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10759441[/url]

Sold it for 2 keys after a day, proof vvv

[url]http://imgur.com/cxnAC2i[/url]

1 link can't be counterproof, and yea, 1 day unsold isn't enough

It just sold.

This need to happen with several other 2 key items...

Like s. shotguns, s. holidays, and s. miniguns? (The list goes on) Agreed, but for now, lets focus on the s. YER

You forgot the S. Widowmaker.

all under 2 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10759171 8 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10754827 1.6 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10758701 1.5 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10739878 1.8-2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10730157 1.7 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10720017 1.8, has 3 SP

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10718468 1.8

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10706252 1.8

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10705310 1.8

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10704787 1.8

#1. unsold

#2. 2 keys is in the range

#3. in classifieds, one for 1.8 and one for 9.66, which is under 9 keys

There ARE the people who are desperate to sell their items, but not at just 1 key flat out

But:

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8880580[/url] Sold for 2 keys + 1 ref (item history)

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10256911[/url] Look at the comment, "I'll take it"

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10745099[/url] 2 keys, YER is sold

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10590099[/url] Look at the item history

link 1: legit, outlier

link 2: has s.part snipers killed

link 3: 2 keys is in the current range

link 3: price is 2 keys, sold and in current range

Exactly, 2 keys is in the range, but thats the price it moves good at, why change it to 1.8 because it wasn't sold for 2 days? If its sold, it works

because its possible at 1.8

Since the market fluxuates, so does the prices, and 2 keys seems good, and thats what all of them are selling at. Your links are what I like to call "partial quick-sales," where someone does not have the patience to sell it at full price. Also, your links:

Link 1: 8 refined and its yours, has a tone to it saying "I have no patience, take it"

Link 2: Sold, but instantly turned around to be sold again

Link 3: [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/backpack/151388[/url] He still has it, was not sold

Link 4: Legit, nothing to counter that, but more than likely to turn down less than 2 keys, all we can do it wait

Link 5: No stated price, impossible to prove sold at 1.7 keys

Link 6: Also a legit link

Link 7: Also no stated price, impossible to tell what he sold at

Link 8: Quicksold everything there, obviously was interested in something he had no time to sell at full price

Link 9: Good counterproof

Link 10: Same person as link 8

L1: a tone...wut?

All the links below 1.8 are just showing people are selling for less.

L3: If its not sold at a lower price, thats counter

L5: He must have edited it. Origianally it was 1.7

L7: Price of 1 key 4 ref

L8: How are those quicksells? They are priced at bp.tf prices

L10: My mistake, but those aren't quicksells

L1: Forget about it

L3: Still was never sold, changed his mind, doesn't count

L5: Since he edited it, isn't really valid anymore, as no price is stated

L7: Didn't see it, okay, counterproof

L8: Alright, counterproof, I was wrong

L10: Was a dupe link, nothing else to say now

L2: Sold, check item history

L3: Doesn't matter, seems like a quicksell anyway

L5: You can add and ask

L8: WTF? Selling anything underneath bp.tf is a quicksell, how is selling at the low end a "quicksale"

Downvote because of this ^

Also 1 in the classifieds: http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/225/11/0

I have checked the links,

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10731852

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10688016

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10745099

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10346737Offer

and Many others and this vote seems Legit, Upvote.

Link 1: unsold

All the others: 2 keys is in the range, you need to prove 1.8 isn't possible anymore

People will always be willing to sell for less than the backpack.tf value, its always possible for those who are desperate, it works at 2 keys just fine.

but there are enough at 1.8 to let it be included in the range

Listen, this is legit evidence that shows something... It may not be direct but people take the offers.

it shows that 2 keys is in the range, which it is.

Anything under the current price will always work. I may want to quicksell an unusual for a little less than its worth. What needs to be proven here is 2 keys works just fine, and does not need the 1.8 key in range.

What needs to be proven here is anything under 2 is impossible.

2 keys is still in current range. It would be nice if you prove why anything under 2 keys is impossible.

Anything under the price of backpack.tf, or even the low end will always be able to be sold, whats proven here is 2 keys works fine, without that 1.8 key range. I can put up a strange minigun for 1.8 keys, and it'd sell. The only reason I'd put it up on the low end, however, is because I wouldn't have the patience to sell for full price. Doesn't mean anything under does not work, it just means that the high end works fine, and 1.8 is unneeded.

Prove that 1.8 is unneeded.

You're kidding right? Thats what I have been doing.

In other words, provide links of unsuccessful buyers of 1.8. Jeez. >.>

And disliking every of my comments won't help your suggestion.

There's none on the market for 1.8 right now

dont worry, i liked them so they are at a score of 0.

Chigga, you are done here, take your leave. You're being immature, and just sticking around to guard your precious range. I have provided my proof, you have provided your counterproof, we had our little debate, we're done.

Last I checked, disliking people's comments when they disagree with you doesn't count as "mature." I'm sticking around to guard to correct price range.

I have nothing else to say to you Chigga, you may go now, you have made your claim, which is respectable, but now you're just being plain annoying. All you're doing is sticking around to cause trouble and ruin my suggestion. We already had an argument, that's bad enough, I don't want either of us getting in trouble. I don't want any more to do with you. And I don't mind that he disagrees with me. I embrace it as constructive criticism. This is my last comment to you, everything else will be ignored, I'm being the bigger man here so we don't get in trouble. Goodbye and have a nice day

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/eternal%20reward another sold for 1.8

and also, the point of suggestions is to argue and debate

Your last few posts were very unneeded and counted as spam, I don't mind you providing your counterproof. Lets forget about that, its behind us. That's just one, however. I just posted some fresh new proof that was sold at 2 keys

2 keys is in the current range. If you want to get rid of value "x" from a range, you need to prove you cannot get it at that price

People will always be able to get it for less, but lets conduct a search for YER's

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/107958506[/url]. Now, lets look at ones being sold for 1.8.... There aren't any right now for 1.8 as conducted by this search [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/107958857[/url]. Now, the classifieds [url]http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/225/11/0[/url] 1 on the market for 1.8, then one for 9.66 refined which is approx 1.95 keys.

1st 5 links on outpost search are unsold

L6: sold 3 recentley

Others are in sets

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10684840 unsold for 3 days

Lots sold, lots in sets, lots unsold, I didn't bother going past the tenth link.

And selling =/= sold

mmk, i need to go sleep now

But if there aren't any for 1.8, why should the price be 1.8?

wut? all the trades above

All of 1.8 are gone, it's straight 2 keys from here, and same here, I have school tomorrow.

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10590099[/url] Sold at 2 keys

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10757557[/url] Sold at 2 keys

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10321074[/url] Sold at 2 keys

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10596520[/url] Sold at 2 keys

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10766222[/url] Sold at 2 keys

Majority is selling and succeeding in selling for 2 keys, lower than that is quicksell which shouldn't affect price

two keys is still in range. I bought 2 for 7.33/each and reselled at 1key4ref, works good. range is fine

I don't know, mate. I see alot go for 1.8~. There were 3 on Classified for 1.8 yesterday.

Look now, there aren't any on outpost anymore. I'd get proof, but I'm on my phone

Just got one for 1 key and 3 ref ;p

good proof upvote

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10552816

I'm selling them for 1.8 Keys each, just sayin'

Damn, alright, looks like I got some good counterproof. But, anyone can sell for low mate, the only reason this range is still here is because people are selling them for less. There will always be people willing to quicksell it, just to get rid of it.

sold mine for 2.6 keys, proof is not available, just retelling

Proof looks pretty good to me. I'm going to upvote this one.

Umm, I'd like to upvote this but I was selling my strange YER for ..3 keys before someone wanted to pay 2 keys. But it sold anyways ;] But it take a little bit

2 keys is in current range

Sold mine for 2 keys today

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10759441[/url]

[url]http://imgur.com/cxnAC2i[/url]

You don't even need to prove that. All you need to prove is 1.8 shouldn't be in the range

I am proving it. Shouldn't be in the range because 2 keys works fine.

That's not how it works. Just cuz you can sell for 2 keys, doesn't mean you can't buy for 1.8.

1.8 can only be excluded, if no more trades happen at that price, or very rarely, and you haven't proven that.

You can always buy for less, that's inevitable. The reason these went down is because a few people had no patience. It's impossible to prove it can't be done for less, look at all the quick buyers. But for what it's worth, I found no sellers for less than 2 on outpost, and there's one on classifieds for 1.8

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/id/76561198031300411 9.33, around 1.9

Sold mine for 2 Keys too

so? 2 keys is in current range

Hmm, you got a problem with the price rising to 2 Keys?

2 in Classifieds right now, one for 1.8 and another for 1.85 keys

Many more in outpost for less than 2 keys.

Downvote from me.

seems like a quicksell, but 3 @ 1.6 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10793722

Anything under 1.8 is an obvious quicksell which shouldn't affect price

1.8 is possible to find but you're missing the point, if people sell in a day or less at high end that means low end isn't really necessary because that means the demand is high enough for people to pay that extra ref and since people who buy at 1.8 resell at 2 it shows 1.8 is not needed cause it's also a quicksell

I'm upvoting this, even as a buyer, it was almost impossible to find any under 2 keys. Then of course there were the ones that were even more because of strange parts or just people who like to highball. But yes, your proof is valid.

Sold mine for 2keys, requires some patient to sell for this price though.

Upvote. 1.8 is useless.Can't counter prove it because nobody would bloody use 1.8 keys as a buying price.

Nice proof, but i want to see more unsold at 1.8

I looked a while ago, and on outpost, everyone was selling 2 keys, or more...

I just sold one for 2 keys , took me 40 minutes!

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10806101

http://puu.sh/2TwvJ.png

upvote!

2 keys, in current range

This is what I could dig up:

Offered 1.8 keys, 5 days ago http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10464630

Sold for 1.8 keys, 1 day ago http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10772957

Offered 1.6 keys, 9 hrs ago http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10798471

Trade to watch: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10770979

L1: Quicksale trade, looking for lowest, most desperate seller

L2: Legitimate counterproof

L3: Same as L1

L4: Probably will be the same as 1 + 3

L1: How is it a quicksell if its selling at current price?

L3: Quicksell, underneath current market price

L4: Paying low end of the range in metal. If you look at his selling trades, he's trying to make a 1 rec profit off the strange holiday punch he bought.

L1: He isn't taking it

L3: Yup, quicksale

L4: Unsuccessful at 1.8

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10798485[/url] this is the only one on the market for 1.8

Removed the 2 other links because they were "quicksales" not valid proof.

Link 2: actually sold, check history.

And L2 and L3 are under the current range. Also, if there are trades UNSOLD at a lower price, why are you trying to raise the price?

You told me to include unsolds at 1.8, and I did. Simply proving its impossible to sell at 1.8, because there is 1 on outpost, and its unsold. Every else seems to work at 2 keys.

No, we told you to provide proof that 1.8 isn't possible anymore. By posting those links, you provided counterproof to your own suggestion. Thanks. I gtg now, got basketball practice.

It isn't possible, theres only one :)

lol i don't think you understand your own proof. If it is impossible to sell at 1.8 keys, why would you raise it to 2 keys?

it isn't impossible, its the only one on the market for 1.8 keys, went through all 12 pages and found that.

but you deleted this one: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10663816 and it's still in his bp, but the trade is unbumped

I sold one really easy for 2 keys....

took 40 min

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10806101

http://puu.sh/2TwvJ.png

I already saw this post, no need to re-comment

yeah, i deleted it because it isn't valid. its a quicksale.

I think this suggestion is more of an opinion because 2 keys is already in the range, but your main proof is that 2 keys sells too quickly to be a high end. Although there is no proof that it is hard to buy for 1.8 keys, you have taken it into your hands to change the suggestion based on what seems right. This site bases suggestions on cold-hard evidence, so until you provide that I will remain neutral.

It does sell fast, but it is not an opinion whatsoever, if you look at the proof above, thats the only one on the market for 1.8. And the guy above me provided proof of unsold at 1.8 [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10770979[/url]

I was the one who provided that link and that is a buyer for 1.8 keys, only 1 day old.

He's paying low end of the price, which would seem to attract lots of people. It doesn't, he's having a hard time buying

He only has 9.11, which is probably why he can't get any

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