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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10719565 B/O 17 ?! (rejects a 17 in items w/ overpay)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10646947 hella sketch 21 key offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9004067
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7449166
16 to 18 offers all around
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10554125
14+4+1 pure (19 in items)
bump up.
Could you get a bit more proof? The 3rd link and last link seems to be a bit weird
because there are hundreds up for sale like normal items
how about making a suggestion yourself before questioning the amount of proof available for unusuals
No need to be so hostile.
Link 1: 17 keys, unsold.
Link 2: You claim someone offered 21 keys (Probably Sandvich). All i see is that Twilight (original poster) traded his off to another chap by the name of Isaac, possibly upgraded. Sandvich does have the same unusual hat, but the ids are completely different. Still does not prove trade at 21 key occurred. Proof here is dubious at best.
Link 3: A noticeable offer of 18 keys, but that's 1 month ago. Too old actually. Recent offer is TS bills + 7 keys, which is 16 keys at best, not including overpay. Big kill offer on this even lower.
Link 4: 17 keys 2 weeks, ago, 16 keys recently, again big kill. No recent offers of 18 keys.
Link 5: Buyer happens to be seller in link 2 ...
That's enough background checking for me, downvoting.
I was not hostile at all.
21 keys is outlier.
low offers are not proof
month old offers are valid
Link 5: Buyer happens to be seller in link 2 ...
so what?
Sorry to be so frank and hurt your feelings, but your lack of knowledge on unusual suggestions is showing itself quite well. If you have any counterproof, that would be legit. I might as well say to any suggestion, "all your offers are 12 hours old is too old" to all of them
So now you're doing ad hominem attacks? That's old school.
Does it not irk you that,
Link 1: Still unsold for 17 keys by Isaac
Link 2: Random 21 key offer by Sandvich but no proof that trade occurred. Seller in Link 1 (Isaac) is probably buyer of Link 2, as evidenced by the history on the unusual hat. Also means that he probably got it for lower than 17 keys, which disproves your range.
Link 3: Lower offers than your range even after factoring overpay, unsold. Remember selling for XXX =/= SOLD
Link 4: TS Bills + 7 keys, barely 16. Blizzardy Storm Buckaroo Painted, 16-19, let's put it at 17.5. Factoring in unusual overpay DOES NOT even prove your range, even with paint included.
Link 5: Let's assume it's Twilight who offered that 19 key in items. Factoring overpay of 10%, that barely proves your price range.
So what you have is 1 link that barely proves your point. Please, go back and do more homework on this.
read below @ woifi's link. It's not current b/os, it is past offers. I thought my range was 16-18.anyway, 18 offer, 17 offer, 21 key buy. Good enough offers. Get yourself out of the looking at the lowballs and looking at best offers. Best offers and solds is proof, lowballs are not "I'm going to use that unusual lowball to disprove merry". OK then, lol at accusing me at ad homniem
Read already. I'm not looking on lowballs. You yourself said that 21 keys was an outlier.
I'm clearly telling you that SELLING =/= SOLD. I'd advise you to read through your trades again. First link, 17 keys, not even sold. What's so hard to get about that? If it's not selling for 17 keys, should the range even be 17-19? No. What can we infer from Isaac selling his at 17? It is reasonable to assume that he's trying to resell, at a higher price. It also makes it more likely that Twilight could not sell for higher than 17 keys, despite the so-called 21 key offer that never materialized.
Getting offers of 21 keys =/= Having a successful trade at 21 keys. I can get my friend to post on mine saying 1 bud, does that raise the price of the unusual then?
Now you say your range was actually "16-18". Then close this trade dude, and make another.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9977494 - sold for 21 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7449166 - isaac offers 16 keys there and hid his own post, I guess he got the other one for 16 keys
hmmm