Suggestion: Strange Sapper at 6 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10209652 - Has an offer of Strange Huntsman + sweets for Sapper, since Huntsman is 6 and Sapper is 5.5 – 6 if you add sweets to Huntsman that's a good offer

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10142617 - Has an offer of 30 ref (~6 keys) and Invis-Watch + 1 key again

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10775235 - Has an offer of 8 keys, probably fake but idk

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10472693 - Has an offer of 6 keys and an offer of Invis-Watch + 1 key again

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10304434 - Has an offer of 6 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9243069 - Has an offer of 6 and an offer of S.F Mackerel + some metal

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10741276 - Has an offer of Invis-Watch + 1 key AGAIN, that guy is desperate to get that Sapper and his offer is simple low end and yet no one takes it

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10156020 - Has an offer of Strange Huntsman 1:1 which is 6 keys for 5.5 – 6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10719724 - Sold for 6 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10031899 - Had few sapper sold one for 6 or 7, had an offer of 6 and had an offer of Strange Huntsman + 1 key for Sapper (7 for 5.5 – 6 seems pretty good to me)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10388431 - Someone wrote added and then bought from this guy: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10570724

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10162678 - Has an offer of Strange Huntsman 1:1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10246322 - Has an offer of 6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10173008 - Has an offer of items worth about 2 keys + 4 keys pure and an offer of Genuine Archimedes 1:1 (was 6 – 7 at the time)

I couldn't find any normal buyers, all buyers want 5 keys or less, I went through 1.5 pages and I saw 2 or 3 people with an offer of 5.5 keys and they declined it cause they want 4 keys or something, yes they declined 5.5 which is low end but they want quicksells of like -30% off of value

Overall it's not so hard to sell for 6 keys and most people are trying to sell for 9+ which also doesn't represent the market

I have 1 Sapper but I don't want to sell, I enjoy it and I want to keep it for my own usage

If there's anything wrong please tell me and I might close or re-suggest

And everyone who thinks it's wrong cause they want to buy their high tier stranges for like 3 keys what you're doing is wrong so don't downvote because you want to buy it for low prices

And I know most are unsold but since they have offers of 6 keys or more it shows people are willing to pay that much

Some links are old trades but every proof I use is 1 week or more recent offer so scroll down to find my proof if it's old

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good proof, upvote over here

Commenting here for visibility, sorry.

5.75

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10811061

unsold for about a day

5.6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10816211

5.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10809200

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10791483

last link here: http://trade.tf/fair/search/Sell/All/Sapper/all/2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10729139

5.2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10803290

reopened from http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10771621

after not being able to sell for about a day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10797949

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10744412

Although selling at 6 keys is not completely impossible, finding sellers under 6 keys isn't either.

All of your links are quicksells -.-

I didn't really check trade.tf but your outpost links ALL sold within a day

Last time i check quicksells shouldn't affect prices, which is why 6 flat is more accurate

It's great proof, just show they can't be sold for 5.5 ;)

They can be sold for 5.5 if anything you mean can't be bought and it's impossible because all buyers are 5 keys or lower and they don't succeed but they don't even try to get it for 5.5

Yeah, sorry i meant bought, so tired :3

Also, might as well show the 5 key fails to show this price definitely shouldn't go down anymore ;)

If anyone tries to make it go to 5 keys as anyway i'll post a good solid counter-proof but for now i actually think there's a chance my suggestion will pass cause since #40 and it's stranges fell to bottom price people realized they won't be able to get it cheaper so the demand is high

Yeah, it definately wont go down, it's just a matter of time before it rises :3

anyone can sell for lower than price, but 5.5 is extremely hard to find, upvote

http://trade.tf/price/736/11

Problem, trade.tf is still showing they are being sold under 6 keys.

Downvote

These things don't count as a proof and if i show you 16 trades with offers of 6 or more or declined low range what does that tell you? that it can easily be sold at 6 and maybe even a bit higher, one trade declined an offer of Strange Huntsman + 1 key and someone added him for 7 keys and it all happened recently when sapper was 5.5 - 6

counter proof:

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9441291- 5.6

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9432845- sold for 5 keys 1 refined

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9428138- sold for 5 keys 3 refined

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/strange%20sapper- plenty under 6 keys

5 keys and a ref OBVIOUS QUICKSELL which shoudn't affect price

5 keys 3 ref might've sold in a sec, unclear cause it's tf2tp

5.6 keys might be very new and might have a buyer idk

All your tf2tp might be a quicksell but it's not possible to know

About classifieds except for 2 5.8 and 1 5.9 all are 6, there are some sellers of 5.5 - 6 but MAJORITY sell for 6 and they succeed in it, it's not hard at all

Since price should reflect the majority if 100 trades are 6 and 10 are below i think 6 is more accurate (the numbers aren't accurate they are just to explain my point) - less than 6 trades strive to 0 compared to 6 trades which succeed

'might be quicksell' really isn't a good argument, you could say anything 'might be quicksell' just because it's under the suggested price. However, I've talked to the guy selling at 5.6 and he has since sold the sapper, so 6 probably is a more accurate price.

Quicksell isn't about being under range

Usually it's under range but the main thing is, when it's a quicksell it sells REALLY FAST, if I post sapper for 5 keys it will take about a minute or less till I get added right? so that's why it's a quicksell, about the 1 minute, I saw hundreds offering 5 keys so I know it will take a minute

Not sure, Leaning Towards Up

Ah what the hell, Good Proof, Upvote for Me

Upvote, I had 3 sappers in the past and they always sell incredibly fast for high range here. Yesterday I sold one for 6 keys in 1 hour.

Can you provide screenshots? if you can it will help my suggestion

hmm this is trade if that helps

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10719724

Actually i found your trade before and it's posted from the beginning but still thanks for the effort

these are so easy to sell at 6 keys, normally sell under a day for me, upvote.

Got another link:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10518309 - Sold for 6

And here are Maestro's links of sold within a day for 6 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10623133

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10517107

Both are sold (check history) for 6 and both were opened and closed a week ago

There are still a few sellers selling for lower then 6 keys

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/strange%20sapper

Some do but almost no one sells for less and right now price is 5.5 - 6 so it's reasonable + it's not like they sell for 5.5, they sell for 5.8 or 5.9 which is a ref or less difference than 6

Some do sell for less and no matter what the item is some people will sell it for less but majority is selling for 6 or a bit more and some sell for 6 within a day

Owns one - downvote

WTF?! first of all if you actually read what i wrote i specified that i have one but i'm not willing to sell because i enjoy using it

And if you read any of my proofs you'd see many people being offered stuff worth 6 or more and some sold for 6

And there's nowhere written you must own nothing if you try to make it rise so basically your whole downvote is based on the dumbest thing i've ever seen

The only time people try to make things go up for their own profit and not because it's more accurate is when it's someone with 0 passed suggestions, who owns at least 1 and his "proof" is: it should go up or 1 link, i have more than that so your claim is unreasonable

lol, that is slightly pathetic to say that

To say what?

what princess luna said

Oh i thought he responded to what i said

Update:

Since i can't edit my suggestion i'll update here:

Link 1: Sold, probably for 6

Link 6: A NEW offer of 6 keys + 2 ref

Link 11: Claims he got offered 7 keys

Link 13: Trade is now closed and Sapper isn't in his bp, probably sold for 7 cause that's what he wanted

I only listed trade that had a change

Good proofs upvote mate ;)

It's good to see guys like you on backpack.tf

respect +++

Thank you very much

I'm just telling the truth ;) and np :)

Offers of 6 keys do indicate a raise in price, but you have to show evidence that it is very hard to buy for anything less than 6 keys. 6 keys is already in the range. By taking a look at classifieds and some past trades, it seems like it still is somewhat possible to get for less than 6 keys.

Possible but very hard, almost no open trades for less than 6 and buyers are 5 or less and unsuccessful so i can't use that

Just tried to search for some counterproof, but pretty much none can be found.

Buying for 6 keys (17 hrs) http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10814078

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10797949 Sold for 5 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10744412 Sold for 5 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10752562 Seller willing to go 5.4 keys, sold it for 6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10748135 Seller willing to go 5.5 keys, sold for unknown amount

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10729139 Sold for 5.5 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10738348 Sold for S. Huntsman + 3 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10773818 Offer of 5.6 keys rejected

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10343274 Offered 6 keys, 2 weeks ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10780416 Offered 6 keys, 2 days ago

6 keys seems to sell reasonably fast and there are not many sellers under 6 keys

This suggestion actually has more proof than the last accepted suggestion that caused the drop ([url]http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5183e29fba25367f6c000004[/url]). The last one only had rejected 5 and 5.5 key offers that justified the low-end as well as one quickseller at 5 keys. I'm not sure how that got passed. This price is much better despite the lone 5.9 key seller in classifieds.

Therefore, I will have to Upvote

your proof has the range of 5.5-6 there =P

Yeah but this is everything I could find. The majority of sales were all at 6 keys, but I didn't feel like adding all of them to the proof because it's already in the range. Although it is somewhat possible to buy for less, there are bound to be trades above and below the suggested range. Pretty much anything under 6 keys is snatched up right away like the 5 key sellers. The sellers were only willing to go lower in comments in order to sell it quicker, but their prices were at 6 keys. 6 keys just represents a greater portion of the market.

Since under 6 sells as fast as a quicksell and 6 is about 100 times more common 6 flat is more accurate

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10811061

Only unsold one for 5.75 keys on outpost I could find.

No one below 6 keys on the classifieds (besides that 5.9 keys one).

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10838028

Had 3 views (including mine) when I first opened it. Selling for 6 keys for 20 hours and is a blue donator. That would explain why it is kinda hard to sell.

The proof from the last suggestion was week was kinda poor and as shown in the comments everything below 6 keys sells pretty fast. Majority of trades seem to happen at 6 keys, voters agree, accepting.