Suggestion: Genuine Person in the Iron Mask at 1.66 ref

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~9.66 ref

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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10694509 - 6 documented adds in 2 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10307021 - 1.77 for 2 weeks and not even an offer.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10792843 - 1.66

http://trade.tf/price/1020/1 - sitting at 1.55-1.66 since late Saturday

Not sure if it would be deserving of a range as there are a fair number of unsold at 2 ref on OP as well as bp.tf and tf2tp.com. 13 pages on OP to sift through if anyone wants to find counter proof of 2 ref'ers being sold.

EDIT: Just to show how much people are interested in this trade. While sifting through all the unsold 2 Ref trades. I found this.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10629737 - Up for a week for a craft hat and absolutely NO offers. lol

Unsold @ 2 Ref

http://imgur.com/WaU8HT2 latest has been listed for 7 days at 2 ref.

2D http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10738692

2W http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10322889

2W http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10465824

1D http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10771558

1W http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10620917

2W http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10342660

3D http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10696186

2D http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10750037

1D http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10763894

20H http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10781271

2D http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10742170

6H http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10795146

1D http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10765296

4H http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10759133

1W http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10503262

2D http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10736101

7H http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10794584

1W http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10570232

10H http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10792764

17H http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10785735

17H http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10784845

3D http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10710594

**Stopped at page 7 on OP**

I see only 1 proof and its kinda bad

1.66ref is a quick sell ...

trade.tf isnt a proof, and maybe the sellers at classified already sold..please check

Got my downvote :I

I do not believe that 1.66 for 3 days with 6 adds is a quicksell.

Also, I have used trade.tf as proof for my previous suggestions and no one has had a problem. I agree that it is not hard proof...yet, however I do consider it to be more proof than not. I am still waiting on the guy to release his calcs and process for obtaining the prices before I am sold on it being solid. If more people agree than I will close it and remake with 2 in the range.

The G. Mask I bought for 1.33 IS however a quicksell. http://imgur.com/y4VkrlT

so there is only 1 proof of 1.66ref

need more

The last one sold already.

The 1.77 is not a regular bumper.

Need more proof. Maybe 1.66-2 could be possible...

Last one? Could you be a bit more specific?

That craft hat 1:1

Looking good now.

Weird, it shows the same ID (figured he still had it just by that alone) but the guy doesn't have it in his BP. Dunno. And the edit timer just ran down so I cannot edit it anymore.

When you click on the item, you can see it's faded away. ;-) That means he doesn't have it anymore.

Good to know. Cheers.

That guy selling for a craft hat doesn't even have it any more.

Thank you for pointing out that information 5 hours after we already mentioned it.

So you did. Guess I can't read.

Can't see trades with sellers for 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10738120 Sold for 2 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10696186 Has an add for 2 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10750037 Has an add for 2 ref, but didn't go because friend's list was full

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10794584 Sold already for 2 ref, check item history

Only a few of your unsold links are valid. Majority are still new, and some have sold or have willing buyers. 1.66-2 would be better, downvoted.

To be sure; the other 18 unsold links from the first 7 pages out of 13 on OP are "few" and negated despite at least 6 have been up for week+? Just making sure I understand what you are saying.

Yes, that is what I am saying. 10/22 of your links are only a day old or younger, which can't be used as unsold, ESPECIALLY for a genuine item (older genuine items sometimes need up to 4 days on average to sell, but this is an exception because its newer).

So we're down to 12 links.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10322889 Is valid

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10465824 Is valid

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10620917 Had an add 3 days ago, retracted since he got one and re-sold it for 2 ref again o.O (shown in my first link)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10342660 Valid

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10503262 Valid

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10570232 Has an offer of a 1.66-2 ref item, so still somewhat valid

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10738692 Not valid, considered new since it has no autobump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10742170 Not valid, considered new because of no autobump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10736101 Same as above

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10696186 Is sold, check item history and comments

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10750037 Had a willing buyer, his friend's list was full, also an offer of 1 key for it + the vox (overpay and an outlier)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10710594 Not bumped in almost a day

So yes, very few are valid. I have also shown that 2 ref is possible, and needs to be in the range.

"Not valid, considered new since it has no autobump" lolwut?

Since when has it mattered if a trade has autobump or not? Just because the trader hasn't donated it shouldn't be considered valid proof?

EDIT: and yes, I agree some of the links I posted are invalid upon closer inspection of the actual item rather than the trade. If i could edit the original post I would. Still, we have no way of knowing on some of them, that are sold, for how much they sold them for. For all we know the ones that are sold with no communication on OP is that it was sold on a server for a scrap.

Autobump increases how much the trade gets noticed. With items like genuines, which have such a small niche market, what is considered a "new" trade depends on how long it has been on the market. If it is autobumped every hour, then it can be considered valid after 2 days since it has had plenty of time on the market, but if it hasn't been autobumped and the OP isn't manually bumping it often, then it needs a bit longer. I've been using this system for tons of accepted genuine suggestions, so trust me when I say that this invalid.

Very small niche market requires actually searching which is exactly what people do when trying to find an item like a genuine or a vintage. They use they search function. Which has no need for the autobump only to keep it active instead of being autoclosed from over a week. You showed its possible to get 2 ref from a couple links. I have showed its possible for 1.66 with more links. If you don't agree downvote and make a new suggestion.

You're implying people are actually logical and search, which they rarely do (which is why people can sell 1 key items for 3 keys sometimes). I will make a new suggestion, I was just giving you the opportunity to change it since 2 ref still needs to be in the range.

Don't you think that is being unfair and not giving people benefit of the doubt? While I do think the average Outposter is a 12yo jackass there are quite a few people who do search out items they are looking for rather than jumping on the first one they spot.

We have to factor in both kinds of people. Anyway, my suggestion is up, I'm done here, lets leave this to the mods.