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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10572621 - 1 key (s)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10551070 - offers
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10692459 - gold -5 ref (but no proof of that offer)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8752404 - Failing to buy at 1.33 - I also have my copycats.
None of these are actually selling
selling =/= sold, they're asking for huge overpay for it, nobody's buyin anyway, so nothin proved here, you only have 1 proof at 1.33 and it's your trade, it's not your copycat, IT'S YOUR TRADE, you can easily manipulate it, downvoted.
You need way more proof, also, why are you using your own trade on it.
SELLING DOES NOT MEAN SOLD, DO NOT PUT SELLERS AS PROOF
3 of them arent selling or want an insane overpay for them.
the last one is you, and i feel that when you are trying to set the price with your own buying price. it feels very subjective. im voting no.
I know it looks subjective. But I'll buy all the uncraftable handyman's handles for 1.33 ref. So I don't see why my trade should be worth any less then the others. I can provide link to previous copycats i've found if an admin asks. But I think it's pretty obvious I'm not going to advertise people that stole all my hard work by just copy pasting and not even asking. Would you?
Also out of experience I actually know these can be sold for even more then 1.33 ref. But I can't proof that, so I'm proving what I can.
yeah, but from a traders vision i know how this work. a good jump means you can push even more to it. and you are well aware of it.
one trader cant show the entire community of traders.
Well, you can easily manipulate it since it's your trade. Just set the buying price at 1.33, then make a suggestion, put it in your trade, and bam " he's buying for 1.33, therefor the price should be 1.33"
proof shouldn't be your trades if you're bumping the price up, since it can be very easily manipulated. if you're lowering the price, then, and only then you can use your own trades.
Not even a lowering of the price justifies using your own trades
well if you're buying for a lower price and you prove that you've traded for them at that price, then the proof is valid.
And I'm buying them for a higher price and I've been able to buy 0 so far and that can't be used as proof?
first of all it would be because there's a low supply of them, secondly, you're probably manipulating your own trade just to get this accepted. Third- you have 5, so i'm assuming you bought them at 1.33. you can use your buying trade if it's in the current range and you can't buy any, also you'd have to show successful sellers at your suggested range. your proof is invalid, buying trades at a higher price can be easily manipulated, downvote
Blablabla, I'm getting annoyed of all your accusations. You could have tried to be helpful and finding counter-proof. If you were able to find any I would have closed this. Instead you are accusing me of manipulating prices. Just...no. Try to be helpful next time. Accusing isn't helping anyone.
Baseless accusations. Do you have any counterproof? Otherwise, the only proof we have is his. And they would justify an upvote, especially with a 1.66 ref offer.
You have to realize that people aren't the most objective when it comes to changing the price. I'm not saying that the price is incorrect, I'm just saying that you must tread with caution when bumping up a price on a rare item you happen to own five of and want more of.
You're obviously trying to quicky bump up the price you you can sell those 5 crap hats you have for more
Yes! Is it working? O.O
it is not working, this will not get accepted
And why not? Enlighten me instead of just throwing with accusations. Or better, find me counter-proof of someone selling for less then 1.33 ref.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10551070 - 1.66 rejected offer.
While the concerns over using one's own buying trade are valid, particularly when one already owns several of them, I'd say this changes the situation. Are there any further concerns, when there's this offer now backing up the suggestion?
because i wasn't trying to help anyone, i'm just saying that your proof is invalid
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10551070 offer of 1.66