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Really needs a price update
There isn't that much proof for this hat. Why? Because no one will pay for it, so don't be upset :).
No real offers on this Berliners that's been up for 5 months
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9500627 - B/O of 5 buds (claims it's a quicksell), hasn't been sold for a while (over 2 weeks at this price).
However, he did turn down 4 buds pure.
In-game sell: http://i.imgur.com/Gw7cCnb.png (selling for 3 buds)
http://imgur.com/psqt9jR (sold for 3 pure)
Also, this hat is above burning flames, just a thought.
I was also offered this hat for my GE scopers and declined obviously.
Quicksell prices lead it down to around 3 buds, however, a $120 cash offer and 4 bud offer was declined.
1st trade was unable to get 5 buds in over 2 weeks time.
This is exactly what is wrong with bp.tf price votes. Why dont u look at the item history of the first link. That thing already sold for 5 to %% then sold to cosmic faze who is flippin for 6 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10857413 same hat
The images seem questionable as well; especially that gw7 one. Other sunbeams medic hats are around 5 as well
First off, you own one and are just saying random stuff to make the price stay? Ok well, i should have made the low value around 3 but since the 4 bud offer on the trade above was declined i didn't.
There's a screenshot showing that it sold for 3 not 5, you don't need a brain to figure this one out. So, this trade occurs yesterday correct?
http://backpack.tf/id/76561198055905004?time=1368601200 (before trade 1 bud + max obviously he sold the max's for 2 buds to obtain 3 buds total)
http://backpack.tf/id/76561198055905004?time=1368687600 (bought date of berliners)
http://backpack.tf/item/1292210418 NOT bought from umpa. Lol if you see one for 3 send them to me.
Your proposal lacks depth
Counter-proof:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6933238 Stormy 13th hour VRH for berliners worth 5ish http://backpack.tf/unusuals/628/Virtual_Reality_Headset
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10857413 Flaming Lantern Milkman worth almost 6 http://backpack.tf/unusuals/219/Milkman
Convenient how you ignore other trades. If you got any sense youd trade that scoopers; if u really were offered a beams berliner
THAT is not counterproof.
First off, i was in the game, he advertised "quickselling sunbeams bucket helm 3 buds." Someone bought it from him (cosmic).
2nd) You guys have no proof of him buying it for 5 buds (he didn't anyways so don't even bother).
3rd) You didn't account unusual overpay (virtual reality headset).
4th) I was offered this for my scopers and noticed the price was off. You didn't even look at my links when afterwards I saw the bucket helm sell for 3 pure.
5th) There was one of these selling for 5 buds as a B/O, you ignored all the other trades, derp.
Answer this, WHY did cosmic buy the berliners? Obvious answer is he planned to resell, which he is for 6 bo because he knew the price he got for was low.
Btw unusual offers dont have to be overpay. Bp.tf has accepted unusual offers as proof.
And I clicked the links, I know from many years in trade servers that the sale doesnt always line up. If 2 trades happen near the same time, it could appear that 1 guy traded with a guy he didnt. I had it happen several times, one time I sold a guy a weapon for a scrap but another trade made it seem that I sold another guy a bills. Its a weird thing happens in servers because once u view new items the trade shows in chat.
On a side note I wish bp.tf would do away with the badges. The kiddies who hunger for self-esteem and recognition suggest not because they are genuinely trying to help the community but to get colored text. As a result, suggestions flood the site that arent based on reality. they simply try to skew the truth.
There is a big lack of proof that this unusal dropped 25% especially given the unusal offers. DOWNVOTE
Surprise, you downvoted for the sake of your backpack.
Unusual overpay must be counted.
You don't have any counterproof
B/O was 5 buds for 1
Second, the guy said directly in chat that he was quickselling the bucket helm.
Honestly, you're downvoting doesn't matter to me because my proof still stands and when i get home i'll get screenies.
Not a popular hat anymore
Yes, I do own the item; however I almost never involve myself in even voting. Alot of my stuff loses value. If it looks right, I dont bother, I just shrug. This vote doesnt look right at all. Based on 1 trade! It ignores unusual offers and the 4.2-4.5 seems arbitrary.
Look at my backpack, im not a vote whore. I realize things do change in price but the evidence here is lacking Especially for a 25% change. I trust the admin to make the right decision. That is all, thank you.
That's fine, I should have mad the low value more low but the decline at 4 buds canceled that low value range. No one bought it for 5 buds also (just a b/o anyways).
No one wants this hat and i should get the screenshot soon when the guy from korea is on.
You haven't supplied any counterproof that proves my price range is wrong, you're just saying that a 25% change is wrong, however, it's not wrong, it's a price change.
The counter-proof is the unusual offers, links provided above. Ok Im done, the rest the admin will decide. I leave it to him or her to thoroughly research this and come to a reasonable decision. Good day and night.
your link 1 sold for 5 buds.
this range is too low.
It didn't sell for 5 buds at all and you have no proof of that
http://backpack.tf/id/76561197987514551?time=1368601200 notice the berlin
http://backpack.tf/id/76561197987514551?time=1368860400 sold for paypal money
5 buds was just a b/o, my range is fine.
fair enough.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10578974
sold with sweets for lantern tossle ??? listed as 5.3-5.4 here. I doubt he added sweets becuase I cant see anything else worth anything in his backpack (berliners hasnt even been sorted)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6933238
best c/o is beams cowl (listed as 5.2-5.5 here)
everything else has never been sold.
Current suggested price seems just a tad low. both above offers after taking overpay are over 4.5. 4.5-5 would be perfect or 4.5-4.8