Suggestion: Non-Craftable Robo Community Crate Key at 1.5–2 keys

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~1.08 keys

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Well, what do ya’ know. Outpost, of all places, has people selling these for less than 2 keys, even with all the hype. Don’t pull the “is 2 soon 4 ther 2 be a set price”. It seems like the price has stabilized for the most part on outpost, from 1.5-2 keys. I’m listing the low ones.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10912632 5:8, 1.6 keys each

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10873367 1 key each

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10912540 1 key + 2.33 ref (1.45 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10910452 1 key + 3 ref (1.6 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10912929 1 key + 3 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10909985 1 key + 3 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10912667 1 key + 3 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10908026 1 key + 3 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10912861 1 key + 2 ref (1.4 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10911137 1.5 keys each

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10898293 1 key + 2.55 ref (1.5 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10912128 1 key +2.55 ref

Outpost stopped working for me at this point, so I can’t get any more outpost links for now.

http://bazaar.tf/trade/222524 1 key + 3 ref

http://bazaar.tf/trade/221500 1 robo key for 30 robo crates (assuming robo crates are .16 ref) that’s 4.8 ref. Selling a robo key for 4.8 ref.

Classifieds:

http://puu.sh/2VUHo http://puu.sh/2VUHQ A total of 10 robo keys for sale at 1.5 keys or a bit lower at time of posting

NOTE

There are plenty of succesful trades at 2 keys, I'm not including them so you can see why 1.5 should be in the range.

Just adding some proof of sold/offers at ~2 keys to back your suggestion up.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10911235 - A Festive Scattergun (2.8~3 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10907129 - Got offered items of equal value

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10909136 - Sold one (going for the trader's word here)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10900894 - Got an add

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10884517 - Clean HHHH axe (~4 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10914067 - Sold one (going for the trader's word again)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10911566 - Sold one

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10889870 - Shred alert offer

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10913446 - Sold 2 (They aren't on his bp)

That's only a few from ~4 pages on outpost. Unfortunately I can't get closed trades there, which makes this harder.

Thanks. People kept bugging me to add proof of 2 keys.

The rush for buying robocrate keys at 2 keys, has died down so the range might have to be a bit differ maybe 1-1.5?

Most likely 1.5-1.75

2 keys noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

I sold 2 last night for 2 keys each.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10873612

I didn't say you couldn't sell them for 2 keys. That's why 2 keys is included in the range.

No I was agreeing with you lol, just a little more added proof.

Selling /=/ sold.

Besides, it costs as much as a normal key at mann co store.

Downvote.

Ok, what price do you think it should be?

A key...? Duh.

when ever a new key is released because of the small amount in circulation(due to not everyone having money to buy the new keys) and because of the hype it usually sells for 2 reg keys for about a week then crashes. but no these wont be equal to 1 key for a long time until the hype completely dies down.

But those other event keys turned into normal keys afterwards, because the event was over.

According to Valve, these will become rare drops, not retired drops. Meaning, presumably the keys will not turn into normal keys because it won't be retiring anytime soon.

Same happened with some Dota 2 chests, instead of retiring they just turned them into rare drops.

exactly, it will take probably until june 3rd for them to drop in price

Well give me proof that people are selling them for a key... because they're not...

riddle me this: i buy a robokey for $2,50 from the mann co store, i trade it for one regular key, so i paid, in summary, $2,50 for a regular key.

so question is, why i didn't just buy the normal key from mann co store?

(hint: this is a trick question, because noone actually trades event keys with regular keys)

Because people are stupid and pay more for event keys

it's not really stupid if you realize that REAL price of regular key is NOT $2,50. sure, valve sells it for that much, but you can easily buy them for $1,60 or so, so valve is highballing (or let's call it "price of convenience"). on the other hand, every event key can be bought for $2,50. sure, ratio is not 1:2, but it used to be that when key prices were around $1,30. this recent increase in key prices led to ratio being skewed to 1:2-1,5, the price you've suggested.

lol valve is not highballing (well actually they are but thats another point) the reason why you can get keys for less then they cost in the mann and co store is because of all the carded keys on the market. Every single key out there has been bought from the mann and co store...

people were selling keys for money before all these carding incidents as well. you only need to realize that those who BUY from mann co. store and those who SELL for real life money are different parties. anyway, my point is, there's a good amount of regular keys in circulation, so even if people stop buying from mann co. store, this business of "keys-for-real-money" will live a good while. on the other hand, this is not the case with event keys, because they are fresh and sought after (more than keys)

some are stupid enough to suggest that a key worth 2 keys without proofs.

i guess people are stupid indeed

go figure

I sold. 2. for 2 keys each. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10873612

1.5 keys would be better i think ;) or 1.5-1.6

Acutally, there's plenty of succesfull trades for 2 keys. I just listed the low ones so people can see that 1.5 should be in the range.

List 2 keys too ;)

Here! Lmao http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10873612

I don't think it's necessary, they're all over.

It's necessary. Backpack guys will be so far up your ass you'll puke blood if you don't show the proof XD I agree with you though, there are many sold.

It is necessary, just list about 20, it's easy. If you don't list them, you don't have proof supporting your range which = closed suggestion :)

TF2 logic:

>Mann co supply crate key ~$1.5 at the Mann co store

>New key comes out ~$1.5 at the Mann co store

NEW KEYS COST 2 NORMAL KEYS

With logic like this you can:

-Buy a shitload of new keys for $1.5 from Mann co store

-Sell them for 2 normal keys each

-You just sold $1.5 for $3, congratulations

-???

-PROFIT

show of keys being sold at your price

No, not TF2 logic, normal logic.

People buy keys for much less via Paypal, keys are worth about $1.7, not $2.50. You also need to account for hype and amount of keys vs robokeys in circulation.

It isn't that hard to understand why 1 robocrate key is > 1 MannCo normal key.

clearly some cannot understand (not you man, no offense), but actually TF2 logic IS normal logic. every action this community takes has a logical explanation, eventhough it may be called "stupid". but hey, once we started paying real money for virtual hats, that was the only way it could go down :D

This is the same as all the other special crate keys that went for 1.5-2 Keys each, so I agree

Based on the proof given, it does show that people can buy/sell for 1.5 - 2 keys.

Upvote. :)

1 to 1.5 is more reasonable

it is a god damn key, why would it coast more then a normal key if they are worth the same as a normal key???

anyway, the price will go down on a few weeks... and before we know it it wil coast 1 key...

But for now, it's up here.

Maybe if black market keys were still $1.25. But there are suckers born every minute.

Kinda like this? ~ http://i.imgur.com/BpX5Ruj.png

Other than that I have to agree there are some crazy variations with these keys. Just gotta be in the right place at the right time to get the best deal I guess.

Proof of 2:1 keys?

I never said you could sell 2 for 1 key...

duh I mean 2 normal keys for 1 robo key. where is proof of that becuase I tried last night and people were already selling for 1.5-1.6 keys each

Ok, let me find it. Rude.

Oh sorry I did not mean to be rude, I thought you were being smart with me.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10879829 sold 28

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10879299 sold 1

Outpost keeps crashing, can't get more proof right now

made the same experience. The best i got out of it was 4xRobokey+4xrobocrate for 7 keys. --> http://i.imgur.com/VNQKfun.jpg (~1.65keys/robokey). 2:1 just took too me too long. It`s in range anyways.

I just did 21 normal 14 robo

inventory history screenshot http://puu.sh/2W4gA.png

proof of bottom range and I see them going for 2 keys like crazy so up vote.

http://s23.postimg.org/fxwl4ql17/robo.png - i have sold a lot for 2 keys each - hope this helps

I've had a few buyers at 1:2.

http://puu.sh/2W75m.png

http://puu.sh/2W76s.png

Sold a couple for two keys each as well

http://puu.sh/2W7OL.png

http://puu.sh/2W7Pd.png

Yesterday I sold 4 robokeys for 8 keys + 4 ref.

Upvote.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10875399

I've had successful sales at both ends of the range, I'll provide screenies if needed but you can see comments adding for 2:3 and even for 1:2

I'm leaning towards upvote, but I'll stay neutral just for a couple of hours.

This range was the most appropriate I saw

I've bought several at one key each. I'm thinking this is a fair range though.

Robo-Keys don't expire, and they're the exact same price on the Mann Co. storefront. There is literally NO REASON anyone should be asking any more than 1.1 or 1.2 keys AT MOST for them.

The reason is simple, there are very few robo keys on the market, people buy them to either sell or use them up immediately, robokeys are generally not used as currency, so the number is extremely limited.

Those keys are brand new as hell, so of course traders wants it really fast because they want to try to unbox a new effect unusual, and also, the hype is really high and even though they have the same price at the store, robo-keys doesn't count as a currency.

Sold 2 for ~1.5 keys each (2 keys+5.33 ref for 2):

http://i.imgur.com/CfCBHV3.png

Yesterday I sold ~40 for 8 refined or 1.5 keys each (2:3 robo:normal).

I feel 1.5 keys is closer to the median price as opposed to the lower boundary, a lot of the 2 key sales would have been quick buys given the hype.

Downvote.

Literally every trade server is either 2 normal keys for 1 robokey or 3 robokeys for 2 normal keys for the price of 1.5.

Upvote.

Ok, this is what I see on outpost.

YESTERDAY, MOST PEOPLE can sell for 2 keys like 10 hours ago. People can quickly sell it for 1 key 3-4ref

SOME PEOPLE are selling for less, some are even selling for 1 key and a hat.

Conclusion: Neutral since there is this big range from what I saw

Considering what is going on at tf2outpost this is indeed a fair price, for now.

But honestly i dont know if these are gonna rise that much

seemingly best range atm. --> http://i.imgur.com/VNQKfun.jpg (~1.65keys/robokey when u deduct the crates)

One trade isn't going to make the price change

i`m just commenting - not price-changing, also i`m supporting your range

i saw some people on the trading post sellin for 1key and 2-3 ref soo i think it should be about 1.5

Um, Why does it matter if its uncraftable? You cant craft keys anyway. Seems rather redundant .

Dunno, valve did that for ones you buy from the mann co store. Gifted ones are clean

There is absolutely no reason for the price of robo keys to be any different than normal keys. The normal key can open 50 some different crates and those crates can give you countless amounts of different items from stranges to hats and unusuals. The robo key can open only 1 crate and that crate doesn't supply anything but hats and unusuals. Both the normal key and the robo key are priced the same in the mann co. store. The only reason that the robo key would be priced higher is because of rarity, except for the fact that I just made the rarity argument moot with my previous statements.

If you think so, make a price suggestion with credible proof showing people sell these for a key.

I can't possibly because the whole congregation of people playing tf2 agrees on this unbelievably stupid idea that new keys are more than the normal keys and people who are sane and think logically don't have a good enough say. The admins as well will just toss my ideas aside cause they have control and are just looking for their own profits. This is all a money making ploy that cannot be fought because their isn't enough people who care, and when someone tries to they just get shot down.

Exactly. The price can't be a key because nobody is selling them at that. When you just make a suggestion and say "i think this is best price because they cost the same" It's not going to to pass.

The problem is-there is too much idiots. I can sell two mann co keys at market, then buy 1 robokey, and I will have some spare change from this deal. It should be 1.5-1.7

But for some unknown reasons(like, too much idiots on our planet), people buying them for 2 keys, so I guess...

Yeah. People are stupid.

Not everybody (like me) is working with a bank, i dont have an account for ~20 years now, and i never will have (they are sharks you know?). Those guys cant buy via paypal. And there are many, for whatever reason.

And you know, why not to do as I said-buy normal 2 keys, sold them on community marketplace and PROFIT! You have robokey and some change money.

Nope.

http://puu.sh/2WCqh.png

Just bought a robokey yesterday for 1.4 keys (1 key + 2 ref)

Downvote for me.

One trade = all trades. YUUUUP

Right, that one trade counters ALL of the proof in the suggestion.

i agree i meant like remeber naughty keys? they dropped from 2 to 1

and just to help ya some sellers on www.tf2tp.com selling for 1 key plus 2-3ref

I remember naughty keys being 2 keys solid.

they are new so...

its just like the time when the bioshock preorder stuff came out

they were priced high and then dropped

I think this is a good starting price

a starting price that will only last 2 days at the most.

they are new so yeah

but I have a feeling that these keys will be abt 2.5 mann co keys for its lifetime

2.5? if anyone has bought them for that much i feel sorry for them

More proof, sold two robokeys and a genuine menpo (1.66 refined) FOR four normal keys. Making it about 1.8-1.9 a key.

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/5721/prooffssss.png

ANYONE THINKING THAT 2 KEYS SHOULDN'T BE IN THE RANGE

Feel free to look at all the proof other people have provided of sales at 2 keys.

this cant be valid anymore, keys can be picked up pretty easy on the market, no one would buy in at 2 now.

Let's not forget that this key will be able to be bought from the store forever, seeing as the crates won't go away on june 3rd, but will instead be more rare than usual.