Suggestion: It's a Secret to Everybody Safe'n'Sound at 141.42–176.78 keys

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~500 keys

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This hat is 1 of 1 right now, but from the offers I have gotten I think this is an ok price. http://bazaar.tf/trade/218830 (From Zero). My last c/o was a sunbeams nappers + craft 48 Wonderland wrap. I paid a burning milk man (duped) for this hat and so I think putting it around 6 is a fair price. Real reason I am pricing this is because ppl just think you backpack is worth what its value on this site is and having a hat not priced is making it hard to cash out.

A link would be nice

Show proof of the offers, please. It would be a better idea to set it at 6 pure, if that is the true value of the duped Burning Milkman, until it sells.

Also, you must value that #48 wrap really high...

sorry, guys it looks like the guy retraced today. I never check bazaar, but here is the link also the nappers on this site is 6.6.... so I'm just keeping to the prices http://bazaar.tf/trade/218830

Sunbeams napper is ~5.6 with overpay, but let's just go with the low end.

your valuing the #48 wonderland wrap at ~1.8 buds. Not really sure, but that may be a little too high. And im not sure of the value on a duped milk man, but it shouldn't be the same as a clean one, since in high tier unusuals the traders really care about whether or not an item is duped.

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51487653ba25367508000001 - nappers

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51487653ba25367508000001 - milk man

Also if you can link me to a clean burning milk man for 6 please do, because I might buy it

It seems you're not taking overpay into account. Burning milkman is only around 6.8 buds after overpay. A duped one is worth even less than that.

And I tend to agree with DeathReaper, napper after overpay is around 5.6-5.7 buds. Unless you can show that #48 wonderland is 1.8 buds, I'd say you should resuggest a lower value.

This is what you aren't getting, can you link me a clean burning milk man for less than 8 as a b/o and keep saying over pay. when you are telling me 5.6 is b.o may be in pure, but not in unusual. Also if you look at the people selling beams nappers are getting offers of 5 pure and rejecting and higher in unusual. Nappers http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/111324366

Milk man - http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/111325362

Also you are throwing all of these number around with out proof. I have links and actual offers, and come on half this site is based on proof

You clearly don't understand what unusual overpay means. To value unusual offers you either take the low end of backpack.tf prices or 90% of the middle. Nobody takes unusuals at 100% since it takes time and effort to resell.

According to current backpack.tf prices the milkman offer was worth way less than 6.8 buds since duped and napper around 5.6-5.7 buds. Unless you can show that #48 wonderland is 1.8 buds, you have no proof for high end.

You might want to check these links before you resuggest:

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/7-how-to-create-a-good-unusual-price-suggestion/?hl=overpay

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/1013-can-somone-please-clear-up-to-me-what-unusual-overpay-is/?hl=%2Bwhat+%2Bunusual+%2Boverpay

welcome to the real world, if you take the actual market value of the hat that it is what the hat is really worth...... crazy how there is a world out side of this web site. Since the base of all "prices" are SUGGESTIONS and not the actual prices. I want to try to purchase for 5.6 (you highest price in unusual) since many have rejected 5 pure + sweets. Not to mention I am still waiting for proof. Also I found a picture of you http://christafleming.com/gallery/identity/tool_shack-logo.jpg

You must be suffering from delusions. If you're suggesting something, you must provide the proof, which you have not as of yet.

Also, if you think that backpack.tf prices for milkman and napper are incorrect or outdated, feel free to make a suggestion to update them. Until you do and the vote passes, this is only your opinion, which counts for nothing.

Since he is the only one with this hat, isn't it only fair that he sets the Supply Rate in this free-market economy? If there were more of a Supply, then the price could be justified by other people, but as he has shown there is some demand via the Beams Nappers and 48 Wrap. Since this is a one-of-a-kind hat, albeit there is a lack of demand, there is an equal lack of supply, so it is only fair that he write his own price out, as it currently is priceless.

I understand that reading might be a chalenge for you so I will spell it out. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10175318 <-- In this trade there is a SUNBEAMS NAPPERS for sale. The person selling it is asking 7.5 buds. Some offers he has gotten are, Blizzy TC, Harvest moon Lil buddy, max+bud.+big kill+ steaming Crocleather Slouch, s.machina and s.huntsman (That is 1 offer), Beams Fuka, Moon Ushanka, hearts tree and a stormy storm attendant.

In this link --> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10912066 <-- All the offers are right in front of you so I hope this makes sense.

Ramirez, nobody is denying that his hat is 1 of 1 on the market, the problem here is that he is overvaluing the offers he received, i.e., napper + #48 wonderland is nowhere near 7.5 buds (more like around 6 buds), thus his proposed high end is too high.

Also, having the only hat on the market does not mean that the seller can set whatever price she wants. Nobody is going to buy it. Selling =/= sold.

Fruit, as I already wrote before, if it is your opinion that nappers is worth more than the current backpack.tf price shows, make a separate suggestion with decent proof to update it. Until the community votes to pass it, this is just your personal opinion, which counts for nothing.

For the time being the community has agreed on the napper's price and it is what backpack.tf shows it is.

To sum up, the napper + #48 wonderland offer was retracted, so the only proof you have is the sale for a duped burning milkman supposedly worth 6 buds. Thus, there is no proof of 7.5 bud high end. Your proof suggests at best 6 buds flat.

So what you are telling me is that since my one decent offer on the site was around 6-6.5 the that is the most posible this hat can be worth. So if I were to offer you 20 keys on your unusual and then no one offered after that it would only be worth 20 keys right since that is the logic you are using.

P.S. it's 1:1 in the world....

The prices here are based on pure. Has anyone offer 7.5 pure on your unusual? No. Unless someone offered that, it shouldn't be in the range. But we still need to take into account all other offers. Most traders won't value item offers at their full amount. Would you trade a 2 bud unusual, for a random unusual that's also 2 buds? No. Because it's a loss, you'll have to waste more time and effort to resell that. That's why traders want overpay, and you need to take that into account.

So you need to tell me what you are smoking because I need to get me some of that shit, since last time I check 2 - 2 = 0 and 0 is a neutral value which means it is neither a lose or a gain. But I checked again and here is the proof, which none of you guys seem to have http://lmgtfy.com/?q=2+-+2 . Also if traders were to go off of these prices all the time no one would ever make any profit or loses.... since this open to a community they control what is accepted or not and since some people as so close minded and physically can't look beyond this site they would never fid out the true value of items and not just a ball park range.

votes are split, and significant scrutiny has been put on your high end, I would recommend re suggesting with a lower high end