Suggestion: Earbuds at 24 keys

And it's not like i would get a million buds after only being on my computer for an hr , and any while the previous suggestion is valid is not like it has to be from 18 hrs ago. And check my bp i got a new bud, today. :)

EDIT: And i am now currently seeing if they go for 25 keys.

I realize that you may have gotten a new bud. However, even if it was for 23 keys (post the screenshot link here if you have it) that's still one trade. I don't care about one trade if there are hundreds selling for 24.

I understand that you may have business ambitions in buying the buds at 23, but this is the price. Unless you have as much counterproof as I can supply proof, your comment about a single sale means nada.

I don't really care how much they are worth. I can always change my prices and get same amount of profit. Im not going against your suggestion. On the contray your suggestion can acctually help me make profit.

People think they are still going up and i sell at 25 keys move my buying price to 24 keys and i will get sellers because bp.tf says 24 keys

Making my buying quicker and selling quicker.

First i will have to see if 25 keys is easily possible which should be in a few hrs.

Okay, then. That's perfectly fine, but there's no need for you to say that you're buying at 23 in that case!

actually 23 is easier than buying candys

bought 2 today

why are you so adversarial??? why is it that people who make suggestions lately are so closed to listening to what others have to say? does everyone here want to be a carbon copy of Long218?

and then when Liddojr says your suggestion can help him you say:

"Okay, then. That's perfectly fine, but there's no need for you to say that you're buying at 23 in that case!"

don't you think all sales should be included regardless of how they can benefit traders? or do you think suggestions should be cherry picked?

i'm actually upvoting your proof, but i'm downvoting your attitude...

I do apologize for my supposed adversariality. I'm not trying to act stuck-up or adversarial at all, and I do apologize that it came out that way. That's my fault- I thought he was originally the one being adversarial, and I was wrong- my apologies to all affected (especially liddojr.)

dude, thanks for the apology and stuff - that was a nice surprise. i think bp.tf needs to have more civility (and not through cleverpun's carpet bombing warnings which only cause more strife)

thanks!

Agreed, bp.tf and tf2 in general should really learn some civility. Shouting at each other in the comments does nothing.

Jeez offended much are you?

I was just saying i get them for 23 keys not " attack your suggestion!!! "

No, I'm not offended. I simply think that your comments are irrelevant until you have proof.

http://puu.sh/2ZdDB.png

http://puu.sh/2ZdAY.png

http://puu.sh/2ZdBs.png

http://puu.sh/2ZdEe.png

http://puu.sh/2ZdEP.png

Count them up bro. And you can't say the 22nd isnt relevant since thats only a few hrs ago.

If you want proof there you go.

http://puu.sh/2ZO01.png - Just right now

No longer getting these at 23 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10260261 sold 2 for 24 keys each

I'm buying them at 23 Keys + 2 Ref. I got 2 Yesterday. but i still think 24 flat is better than 23-24 (and half key ranges dont pass for Buds)

neeever pliz !111

So many of your failed buyers bought for 23 keys.

I got one today for 23, but sold it for 24 keys within 12 min.

My god the last one was accepted just 17 hours ago. :F

He should have done 24, he had adequate proof for that.

i would sound fishy since i own 15. but good proof, upvoting this, even in trade sv's people are having a hard time buying for 24.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11059605

-Offer of 15 keys + V Lugermorph + Lumbricus Lid ~ 25.5 keys

Got that already in there, thanks.

You should count Item Overpay.

Yes, but there are 2 problem : (1) He needed it quickly to buy Dota2 items, and (2) You know that people always want item overpays.

Upvote, proof is good enough.

In your example

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10297178 (4 WEEKS UNBOUGHT)

He got a seller yesterday (l Flankitous l Returns)

And in:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10922010 (5 days)

His original buying price was 22 keys (check the comments) which is why the trade has been up that long

and in:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11088323

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11089226

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11089415

The trades has only been up for an hour or so...

Most of your "unsucccessful buyers" are terrible proof (which is the more important part, to knock 23 out of the range), downvote

Removed the one with a buyer, but one sale before the last suggestion was accepted is not too relevant in the scheme of things. Also, it doesn't matter if his original buying price was 22, it's still up for 23 and unsold! If you're going to downvote, at least supply actual counterproof of sales at 23, please.

It does matter what his origonal price was, since you are emphasizing that he hasnt had a seller in 5 days, when in fact he hasnt had a seller in 5 days because his 1st price was 22 keys

I just edited and added these 3 of your unsold proofs:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11088323

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11089226

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11089415

They are terrible examples of unsold

And here is counter proof: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10297178

Got a seller yesterday B)

Looking through numerous pages of Outpost to find a single seller at 23 is irrelevant. The multitude of sales are at 24, and will remain that way- that is the way these things go. If you're going to supply counterproof, MAKE IT SUFFICIENT. I have 30+ links, can you say the same?

"Looking through numerous pages of Outpost to find a single seller at 23 is irrelevant."

Umm it is totally relevant, since it confirms that 23-24 is the right range if you can buy/sell in the 23-24 range.

I said it once I'll say it again, your unsuccessful buyers (which is the more important part of this price suggestion, since you are trying to knock 23 keys out of the range), is terrible. Most of them have only been up for a few hours.

Look what Esposition said above

Oh my goodness, my trade was used as proof. It's really not difficult to buy for 23 keys, I got 2 within just under 6 hours. I can post trade history if you need me to. I'm staying neutral on this price for now.

I just bought another for 23 keys, I'm going to downvote this now. Here are my buys.

http://i.imgur.com/o3RZXaR.png

I bought one subbing 26.11 refined for 5 keys (5.22 each) because I didn't have 23 pure.

Bought another at 23 keys and missed out on 3 sales at 23 keys because I had no keys

http://i.imgur.com/xivJyMG.png

Someone needs to take a risk and try to suggest a lower key price.

last time i tried that i got banned from backpack.tf. and i had 200+ keys and 0 metal. not like i was trying to profit.

1. Someone just did that, it's still open now.

2. How did we get on that topic?

all i saw of counterproof was some SS of yesterday and 1 guy that added 1 day ago and has a private inventory.

even some of the 24 keys sellers are out of stock already

Up voted. Good Proof.

http://puu.sh/2ZZ7B/1429243048.png

http://puu.sh/2ZZ7N/d2d097616a.png

http://puu.sh/2ZZ85/87d7eddb71.png

Sold 4 for 24 keys within at least half an hour.

ehh -

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11050320

http://i.imgur.com/AOOT6rJ.png

Probably just an outlier.

I lol'd at "fast trade did not happen"

Sold for 24 in 3 mins: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11042474

Declined offer of 45 for 2 buds: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11075559

went into an unusual server to test the market, in 3 minutes sold my buds for 25-26 keys, with 22 pure + mixed metal and items( 5 ref + festive scattergun)

pics or it didn't happen.

http://i.imgur.com/1KaovtZ.png

I'm trying to buy 1 for 23 keys for days, no luck, 23 seems impossible.. up+ from me.

I bought 2 for 46 keys in less than 2 hours so this suggestion gets my downvote

Buying in bulk is entirely different than buying individually. People will give discounts for multiples. Also, regardless, a single sale means very little against the 60+ sales in my list.

A single thing could make all the different in the world. You will learn that eventually.

not in tf2

2 is not "bulk."

I think that eatbuds is too low in Price

I think that eatbuds are low as well PLZ mak dem higer

After a LOT of searching, finally got a bud for 16+BAF Bill's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gun-NKS80c

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/143/6/0 - one unsold at 23, many unsold at 24. Comments also show many people are able to buy for 23 and sell for 24, which fits the range perfectly.

Also, your proof of "unsuccessful" buyers aren't unsuccessful at all, they are actually selling them right away. For example:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11089226 - buying for 23, bought 4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11096297 - selling for 24, sold 4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10922010 - bought many at 23

sold here: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11040845

first link and second link, same buyer/seller, has 0 in stock for 24. which means he can't buy for 23 anymore.

third link - 6 days old, the last post was 4 days, 6 days ago i could buy buds at 23 pretty easy.

fourth link - 24 key seller.

bp.tf classifieds, the guy selling for 23 isn't on, tried adding him to buy for 23 =P

23 keys is a quicksale price now, and as far as im concerned, this site doesn't put up prices at quicksale.

also, that's very little counter-proof, a friend of mine bought 2 buds for 20 keys each yesterday (non-gifted) and many are selling(including me) for above 25 keys, but that shouldn't be included on the range, those are just outliers.

Thank you for your logic.

I missed out on 3 buys at 23 keys because I was out of keys. It's not difficult to buy for 23 keys, it's just people try to buy them at downtimes. I got all of mine mid/late day.

Well you can discard that 23 key seller in classifieds- he does not respond at all.

and btw, see how many it had for 24 yesterday, and see how many there are now, most of them sold for 24.

20 and 21 keys were robokeys, and every link u posted is instant sold, thats quicksell.

Your first 2 trades are for Robo-Keys which are currently worth more than regular keys.

i am buying robokeys the same price as the normal keys from store so i see no difference whatsoever

They're valued differently on backpack.tf

thats better for me cause i can buy buds cheaper with robo keys that i buy them as regular so whatever.

Good for you

but the 23 must stay in range for now because its easy to find them for that

proof? Just find as much links as themuse1 and maybe you will convince some people ;)

do u trade 1:1? ill buy all your robo-keys for 1 key each.

upvoted, good proof.

so, someone tell me, why are keys AND ear buds going up at the SAME time?

why are gas prices and oil prices goin up and the same time?

BTW this may not necessarily be accepted,

The prices of buds still have gone up in 2 weeks, this doesn't change the past lol

demand probably mate

metal is going down because there are people who idle on 100 accounts, more players in the game, metal is becoming less desirable (imo backpack.tf helped speed up this process but whatever).

buds are going up because at first people wanted them to trade with new robo-hats. no one wanted to unbox regular crates, so they went up in price in comparison with the regular keys.

oh, that makes sense. thanks!

Upvote, I sold mine for 24 keys fairly quickly.

I would have to agree. I was blasted with adds for my buds at 23.5

Good proof upvote :D

Just sold a pair for 24 keys + gold anger, easy upvote.

Might I say, ear buds are an utterly ridiculous currency T_T. They can't even hold their value for more than a month.

Fun fact: I sold TWO gifted earbuds in 1 day for .. 21 keys. They are rising

Just bought one within 30 minutes for 23 keys. It is still quite easy to do so.

any proof?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11146184

That was the post but the guy who traded did it through steam. No real proof other than there are no longer 23 keys in my bag :)

seems fair enough although you can take a screenshot of your inventory history which is undisputable proof

Yeah but I got the 23 keys and then traded them for the bud in the same day so the inventory history doesn't show the keys ever appearing when i use that drop down menu

every trade no matter how close together will be in you inventory HISTORY.

Oh okay. Sorry, I am quite new to trading in general :)

It is VERY hard to buy for 23 keys. Ended up buying it for 24 keys. Upvote from meh :3

Let it be 24 Keys then, and then stop making the price go higher as its a fixed price already.

Upvoted, been trying to buy buds at 23 keys each for like a week now, haven't bought any...

anything that we use as "currency" does not need to have its price increased. It either needs to stay at a flat rate, or lower

how do you explain keys then?

Currency fluctuates.

When buds get to the point that people add me without me even listing up my buds or advertising them and saying they'll buy for 24 keys, you know the price needs a change xD

That's the price for a few days ago. Read the Timestamp.

Ah alright, my bad.

unfair site only let people see what is good for them

Its not an unfair site, its a community chosen vote and price, if peoples votes pass, then the likleyhood is the market price will change to that of the accept new vote.

If you dont like it, dont play in the trading side of the TF2 Community

Please don't kill me for saying this, but tf2finance says buds are 24 keys

I just sold one for 25 keys. Upvoted

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11178707#/37809543

I'm rather new to this, so please excuse my TF2 trading stupidity...but why did they drop in the first place, and why are keys rising?

Well, it's pretty simple: supply and demand. For buds, the price dropped because people started selling them, making the supply bigger than the demand: so, the price drops. For keys: People have idle accounts, making metal less valuable. As there is more metal and fewer keys, because people unbox with them, key prices rise.

Okay, thank you.

upvote, is impossible buy one bud with 23 keys

Just sharing my experience as this is one of the few trades of mine that could actually be evidential.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10785075

i changed it to 23 keys after price suggestion because i was getting no buys at 22 still no buys at 23 at all. I wrote in comment about the one offer I got at 22. I have sold 1 bud at 25 and bought it back immediately at 24. I could provide screenshots don't really know how to and don't really want to atm, but the important thing is i can't buy at 23 keys so it probably shouldnt be in the price range. hope this helped a bit.

Downvote, The price is too unstable to be fixed at 24. The last price change was a couple of hours ago.

Actually it was 4 days ago. And if the price has changed this site should reflect it, no matter how long ago the last suggestion was passed.