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Oh boy it's that fun time of the week where backpack.tf raises another currency.

Let's kick this off stylish, shall we?

To save time I have only included buds sold at the extreme of the price. There are still some people selling buds for 24, but they're scarce and usually their pair of earbuds is snatched up very quickly (http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10260261 and http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11182555)


Selling/Sold at 25

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11098278 Sold 3, I talked to him and his bp confirms it

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11113324 Sold 2 at 25

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11168410 Sold 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11175603 Sold 1 (1 day old)!

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11160756 Sold 2 (1 day old)!

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10957602 Sold out at 25 and apparently got some unusual overpay for another pair.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11147771 Completely sold out (check bp)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11043898 Sold 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11117756 Wants 24.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11076096 Just... Just look at his backpack. Impossible to tell just how many he's sold at that price.


And now the classifieds

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/earbuds/1

As you can see an overwhelming majority is selling theirs for 25.


Normally, I don't like ranges, since this encourages outpost to just sell at the upper range and this in turn makes the price JUMP up even more... I don't want a repeat of keys here, but this range just fits.

Let me know if I should add anything/fix anything and I will do my best.

    Man I need more proof. On the way.

    We already got 2 key suggestions and a Bill's Hat suggestion open. You're a bit late to fun time.

      if the Bill's ,, Keys ,, Buds suggestion reach the most frequent at the same time, then it is fun week

        Not really, if they get accepted then it will royally f♥♥♥ over the unusual prices currently in place because Brad still feels the need to tie unusuals to the USD value of buds instead of buds themselves, so if both a key suggestion and a bud suggestion gets accepted all the unusual prices will be messed up.

          you miss understood me, like in the "Active Suggestions" section

          Key

          Bill's

          Bud


          The fun week

            It has indeed been a fun week.

            Yeah some other jackass tied unusuals to buds...

              Sigh... Too late for that. Most unusuals already need to be repriced. Especially unusuals worth >5 buds.

          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11044604 Sold apparently twelve (one, if his bp is any proof. He probably cashed out the keys.)

          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11122440 Sold 1

          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11022296 Selling in the middle

          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/3050415 Sold a few at 25.. hard to tell how many.

          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11148566 Almost sold out at 24

          I just priced them at 24, it's too early to raise it again (however much they need to be raised. Your proof is literally counterproof to yourself, there are a ton in classifieds at 24, and you have very few links to change a major currency. However much I agree that this is the correct price, I'll have to downvote until you get better proof.

            Excuse me?

              There are dozens in classifieds at 24. Let me just repeat that: THERE ARE DOVENS IN CLASSIFIEDS UNSOLD FOR 24. How does that mean that the price should rise again?

                There are also literally 30+ unsold at 25.

                  http://tf2finance.com/ NOPE downvote

                    tf2finance is not proof :P also check it "The server unexpectedly crashed on May 21 again" tf2finance is crashed.

                      no, it crashed on may 21. And no where in the backpack.tf forums or rules does it say tf2finance is not proof

                  Earbuds are an expensive item. People aren't just going to sell them by the dozen by the minute.

                  And those dozens at 24? Five listings, each minutes, hours, or 1 day old. You're not thinkin' straight man, calm down.

                    Look, I'm all in favor of buds rising again. In fact, I just got 24 accepted. However, just wait until there are no more unsolds at 24 before you go to raise the price again.

                      Muse, that's why 24 is in the range. But people are buying at 25 as well. That is why the price should be 24-25.

                    hehe... Dovens.

                    I have no issues with selling for 25 keys. My past few trades over this week can be seen below all being sold for 25 keys.


                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11210102

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11173752

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11124598

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11123932

                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11120725


                    Thank you.

                      well i have no problem selling gifted buds at 23 keys so i guess your range is the correct a little experiment for how quick gifted sells i made

                      the same pair of gifted buds sold 3 times in one day for the full buds price

                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11240143

                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11242185

                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11250229

                      the question is why we price them differently?


                      by the way i always sell the gifted(duped) for the same price as the non gifted(non duped)


                      here are some more dudes sold for 23 keys today as quick as the gifted ones are selling.

                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11257454

                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11255196

                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11248382

                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11245214

                        is there any use to the clean buds that makes them more special than the gifted ones?

                          Yes... gift tags are permanent and most people dislike tags they can't remove with the names of those they don't know on them.

                          This applies to pretty much anything above five keys.

                            nevertheless i am selling them for the full price of earbuds since 2010 so i think of it more like a scamm than anything else :)

                              It's not a scam, it's a followed philosophy, like duped hats being worth less- if nobody cared, then it wouldn't matter.

                                you dont have to gift an item hat or misc to dupe it its a way to dupe it but not the only way most of the dupe hats doesnt have a gift tag still they sell for less.anyway its confusing i prefer it that way beacuse its very profitable.

                                  I understand that, but the fact remains that people very much dislike gift tags because they're permanent. That's the sole reason that they sell for less.

                                  I think you misunderstood my point. I know how duping works.

                        As much as i wanna upvote, this proof isn't enough.I will try find some proof for you, but im staying neutral at the moment.

                          Please scroll slowly down and read every post

                        Hope this passes, good luck man :)

                          21-22 , 22, 22-23, 23, 23-24........ and in less than 1 month, and which is thee motive, drop?, demand or dont exist the motive

                            I'm not sure I understand you.

                              bud prices fluctuate quite regular something people still haven't caught on to. Buds were lowered at the same rate, there's no conspiracy behind it.

                                Here at the tf2 Illuminati we decided to that when keys hit 5ref to invest in buds instead of keys. When buds hit 28 we sell like crazy til around 20 then do it again.

                                  ill try to explain one of the reasons of this fluctuation.


                                  They went down because of the "key fever", everyone was hoarding keys, they didn't stop raising in metal, and the market prices for them were very high, price on paypal were around $1.8. buds were around $35. therefore, the price of buds related to keys dropped a substantial amount.


                                  Now, why are they going back up? Robo-keys is the shortest version of this. Regular keys became unappealing, no one wanted to unbox regular crates, they dropped hugely in price in steam market, and therefore also dropped the price of keys in paypal, stabilizing the market of buds once again.


                                  Of course, this is only one of the reasons, there are more, but this post is long enough to cause a lot of TL;DR.

                                    That could very well be the reason. It may also just be coincidence because the tf2 economy is fubar,

                                      somethings are non-sense, but all of it can be explained by basic "human" behavior. like the raise and drop of b.m.o.c's and ebenezer's. doesn't make sense that a xmas hat drops as it aproaches xmas, but that was a lot of people trying to sell afraid of a "reboot" of the bmoc. When it didn't come, people realized it was just hype, had no real demand for bmocs at that price and prices dropped like hell.


                                      i like economy a lot, possibly will even major in it, so i tend to analyze this little things in this game =P

                                        do it man..that was the most accurate economic analysis I have ever read on here and I study economics at the best university in germany

                                  i was about to make it, but i'm afraid people tend to focus on how many i have more than the proofs.

                                  don't think u used some of the previous suggestions proof (there were already 25 keys sellers) but here u go:

                                  http://i.imgur.com/1KaovtZ.png (quickselling the scatter and quickbuying a key got me 25.5)

                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11178707#/37809543

                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10950740

                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10822809

                                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8860092 (constant seller, not sure how many were for 25)


                                  ill post more, those are just from the last suggestion

                                    The best place to look is always >> http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/earbuds Seems like the 3 buds at 23 keys that were there yesterday sold.


                                    It is that time again.... out of 400+ buds being sold on outpost, these are the ones that fit within the spread. Is this proof or counter proof? Does this mean there should be a spread or does it mean there shouldn't be since there are sooo many at 24 and 25. If someone wants to check to see who has sold and who has not. I merely show you the doors, you have to check them. Good questions to ask.... have the ones at 24 been sitting there a week unsold or only a day? Try not to choke >>


                                    #2 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11024560 >> 25

                                    #3 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11076096 >> 25

                                    #8 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8492049 >> 25

                                    #9 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11144558 >> 25

                                    #11 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11193442 >> 24

                                    #17 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11186249 >> 24.5

                                    #19 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11169200 >> 25

                                    #20 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11091759 >> 25

                                    #21 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11216719 >> 25

                                    #22 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11174271 >> 25

                                    #25 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11040845 >> 25

                                    #27 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10979953 >> 25

                                    #29 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11122440 >> 25

                                    #30 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11210102 >> 25

                                    #34 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10861466 >> 25

                                    #35 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11222169 >> 24

                                    #39 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10719362 >> 25

                                    #44 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11194434 >> 24

                                    #46 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11133519 >> 25

                                    #49 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11182320 >> 25

                                    #50 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10471673 >> 25

                                    #52 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10032912 >> 25

                                    #53 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11208239 >> 24

                                    #59 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11175603 >> 25

                                    #61 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10810126 >> 25

                                    #62 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11216539 >> 25

                                    #63 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10854178 >> 24

                                    #65 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11221212 >> 24

                                    #66 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11115119 >> 25

                                    #69 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10550163 >> 24.5

                                    #70 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11222076 >> 25

                                    #79 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10260261 >> 24

                                    #80 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11219627 >> 25

                                    #81 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11179291 >> 25

                                    #83 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8787466 >> 28

                                    #84 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11208263 >> 24

                                    #85 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10744050 >> 25

                                    #88 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11197139 >> 25

                                    #92 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10001432 >> 24

                                    #96 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11137496 >> 25

                                    #98 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10481458 >> 25

                                    #103 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11117756 >> 24.5

                                    #106 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11212654 >> 25

                                    #107 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11212254 >> 24

                                    #111 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11069238 >> 25

                                    #117 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11202396 >> 24

                                    #122 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11201815 >> 25

                                    #124 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10620805 >> 25

                                    #127 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11211280 >> 25

                                    #131 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11211016 >> 25

                                    #135 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11214375 >> 25

                                    #138 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11096826 >> 25

                                    #139 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11007868 >> 25

                                    #140 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11092751 >> 25

                                    #144 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11205846 >> 24

                                    #149 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11168410 >> 25

                                    #150 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11220807 >> 25

                                    #151 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11196423 >> 25

                                    #152 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11219875 >> 24

                                    #158 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10056108 >> 25

                                    #164 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11164647 >> 25

                                    #166 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11013096 >> 24

                                    #167 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11152344 >> 25

                                    #172 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9355702 >> 25

                                    #176 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5739510 >> 25

                                    #187 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11135814 >> 25

                                    #190 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11034473 >> 25

                                    #195 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9644250 >> 25

                                    #199 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10801997 >> 24

                                    #201 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11190825 >> 24

                                    #205 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10114358 >> 25

                                    #217 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11221186 >> 24

                                    #225 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11094936 >> 25

                                    #227 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11201150 >> 25

                                    #228 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11153443 >> 25

                                    #229 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11075738 >> 25

                                    #231 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11012706 >> 25

                                    #233 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9821237 >> 24

                                    #235 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11211779 >> 25

                                    #246 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11190298 >> 25

                                    #257 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11188921 >> 24

                                    #258 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11157897 >> 24

                                    #259 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11042240 >> 24

                                    #262 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11188548 >> 25

                                    #273 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9991220 >> 25

                                    #279 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11077103 >> 26

                                    #280 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11044604 >> 25

                                    #292 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11178344 >> 25

                                    #295 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11178867 >> 24

                                    #296 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10863766 >> 24

                                    #297 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11177531 >> 25

                                    #298 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9574989 >> 25

                                    #302 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11136870 >> 25

                                    #304 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10044898 >> 25

                                    #306 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11155713 >> 25

                                    #308 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11168107 >> 25

                                    #309 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11090072 >> 25

                                    #311 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11203590 >> 25

                                    #326 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10043956 >> 22.5 << a month old... might be dead?

                                    #327 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11193354 >> 25

                                    #332 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11187548 >> 24

                                    #338 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10302069 >> 25

                                    #356 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11215946 >> 23 << the only 23 I found on outpost

                                    #357 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11217066 >> 25

                                    #363 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11145642 >> 25

                                    #366 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11148566 >> 24

                                    #372 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11145350 >> 25

                                    #373 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11201317 >> 25

                                    #374 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11196875 >> 24

                                    #381 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11218624 >> 25

                                    #383 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10899874 >> 25

                                    #385 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11104172 >> 25

                                    #391 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11158253 >> 25

                                    #395 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11216642 >> 24

                                    #400 >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11215434 >> 25

                                    Dumb TF2 economy, raising price of currency.

                                      So if we lower price its great, but if the price raises the economy is in turmoil and corruption is running rampant?

                                        They should just give away buds for free.... totally. If everyone had buds no one would pay for them. :-) Totally.

                                          Define "they".

                                            Valve. I guess people didn't like my joke. Commenting on how Valve (they) should just give them away for free. They did that already :-) And look what happened.

                                      I have not been able to sell at 25 and 24 is going at a normal speed. But will try to see once again if 25 would work.

                                        no more earbuds on classifieds for 24.

                                          I Sold 2 buds for 25 keys each


                                          http://puu.sh/33f1O.png

                                          http://puu.sh/33f3w.png

                                            How do you see your trades like that?

                                          couple of links for a huge suggestion

                                          k no easy downvote

                                          http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/user/1541-demopanrip/

                                          also 2 people having problems with selling for 25

                                          in my status update

                                            I went threw so much to try to find buds for 24 keys. I had to buy for 25

                                              http://imgur.com/DXOKznt <--bought one for 25

                                                My god, what have I done

                                                  You didn't do any thing wrong. It's just the tf2 economy.

                                                    "I am become Death, destroyer of Fortress."

                                                    Sold 2 for 25 each today. With those keys I then rebought at 24+2 ref (cheapest I could find)

                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11164175

                                                    I would take a screencap of my inv history for proof, but all the keys don't fit in one screencap D:

                                                      Omg unusual prices are getting messed up because of this! Brad feels the need to have unusuals tied to usd value of buds where no one else sees a point in that! It is right on retraded in my opinion!

                                                        I see a reason with tying it to a dollar value since keys go up and down and if this is tied to keys, then bud to key price will fluctuate. Why not just tie unusual price to keys?

                                                        Upvote from me... got 2 adds to buy earbuds at 25 keys each in a few hours

                                                          Sold a bud for 25 keys pure the other day:

                                                          http://i.imgur.com/baiab5P.png

                                                            you traded with Australia lucky >.>

                                                              Why is he well known for paying higher or something?

                                                              Just sold another at 25 keys

                                                              I've gotten a couple for 23 keys, and 24 keys sold very very quick..if I knew 25 was easy, I would of asked for more

                                                                I've been buying for 24...selling for 25....so far i'll sold more for 25 than i bought for 24.

                                                                Well, I think this is perfect! Thanks!

                                                                  upvote from me but NOOO UNUSUAL PRICINGS ARE GETTING SCREWEDDDD DDDD:

                                                                      So where is the mods? There is a lot of proof to aprove this.

                                                                        Good question.

                                                                          I think they're waiting for me to vote so they can pick the opposite :-) Vincent chimed in here at some point.

                                                                        If 25 keys successful price then why my buds still unsold?

                                                                            Fake offer, still unsold :D

                                                                              Maybe you were late to respond to his request......generally in case of currency (keys/buds) if you dont respond asap the buyer will look for another seller...personally i've sold a dozen of them for 25...you can check my proofs ^

                                                                                maybe, but now Im online and waiting.

                                                                                Oh, okay :)

                                                                            Good luck finding your 1 listing out of 400+ listings

                                                                            every time a new suggestion is accepted people will just sell for 1 key for than the suggested price


                                                                            and it keeps going. i dont see the point in having prices anymore

                                                                              I don't know the point of you breathing anymore, why are you alive? you breath more everytime,

                                                                                Ok jokes aside, then why buds went down? other items went down too. if you were correct that didn't happen, or maybe you are so new than you even don't know that the buds gone for 28 keys a little time ago.

                                                                                Sold for 25: http://imgur.com/EPzFVyM


                                                                                2 adds so far for 25 within few hrs: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11297013